VN Ren'Py Abandoned Lord of Imagination [Ep. 4.5 NTR] [AgentGames]

[RandomGuy99]

Played for the first time and I have quite "the zebra feeling". On one hand, good reanders, really good, and there's a story, it's not only about who fucks who and how much, even without porn such story can be worth my time. If not what is on the other hand.
Typos and Engrish can be tolerable, even in such quantities as we see it in this game, I even can tolerate wrong names above textfield. Devs have a good story but they tell it in a bad way. Mixed order of scenes, no notifiers when scene changes, and most irritating thing - absence of logic in story. MC has a girlfriend, young, beautiful and eveready for sex, as we see in the beginning. Without any explanation MC got Oedipus complex right on the spot. And more of that, he lusts for his sister too. Well, maybe not lusts but actually has feelings, but he clearly has feelings for his gf too. Some story twists later Zel says that MC's gf is frigid and boring, MC don't argue with that (while his frigid and boring gf strips for him showing creative underwear). Wtf? That's only one strory line, all others have the same twisted logic or complete absense of logic at all. It's like dev don't have a complete storyline, only the beginning set of events and then they just invent something for the story every update.
And my personal turn-off - player don't choose for MC who he lusts. We can choose for some side girls (actually beautiful models by the way) but not for MC's relatives. I can understand if MC tear himself apart between Olivia and Ashley, that was his problem for a long time (and maybe Olivia and Ashley are besties), but with good personal life there's unexplainable desire for incest... well, this game urgently needs some common sense.

Because many people have NTR and incest fetish for games which i dont understand why.
Its getting boring since every game repeating the same formula. Cant a game not touch this two at all?

 

[SteveyP]

Yep, the first page have it.

It doesn't that's for part 1. I was referring to part 2.

 

[lionarslan]

Because many people have NTR and incest fetish for games which i dont understand why.
Its getting boring since every game repeating the same formula. Cant a game not touch this two at all?

Well, I saw no unavoidable ntr in this game. And I totally agree with you about incest, in this game it seems forced (and unavoidable), and there are many good games even here that has no incest. "Become a rock star", "Being a DIK", "City of broken dreamers", "Reluctant archon", "The Deluca family" and many others. There are many good games with incest too, but what differs good game is every incest relatioship is optional (except the whole game is based on incest theme). In LoI incest can be good too if it would be optional and in the same time player can choose which relationship to pursue (current MC's gf included).

 

[ubblesnop]

Anyone know the 3d assets for Olivia?

 

[BogoHobo]

Anyone having the issue with the incest patch not working? MC still addresses the mother as "Sara" even after I drop the patch in the game folder.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

Anyone having the issue with the incest patch not working? MC still addresses the mother as "Sara" even after I drop the patch in the game folder.

I believe the developer mentioned before those are small bugs that should be fixed in future updates.

 

[BogoHobo]

understood...thank you. Getting a bit hard to read the entire thread just answer a question like that.

 

[RandyPhoenix]

Anyone have changelog for new version?

 

[Theboss3213]

Kind a sad the Carl scene with MC's mom got deleted. Good thing i have the old game saved. But it's a damn shame when a dev sell's out like this just cause they can't stand the heat.

 

[DA22]

Kind a sad the Carl scene with MC's mom got deleted. Good thing i have the old game saved. But it's a damn shame when a dev sell's out like this just cause they can't stand the heat.

More than the heat, unless that heat came from Patreon, which unfortunately can have a real impact on dev the removal of the scene was cause it did not fit the game at that stage of the game dev wanted to make after looking bit better at the story. I would not be surprised though if that scene will return later on the NTR path, unless it was indeed Patreon that had problems with it.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

More than the heat, unless that heat came from Patreon, which unfortunately can have a real impact on dev the removal of the scene was cause it did not fit the game at that stage of the game dev wanted to make after looking bit better at the story. I would not be surprised though if that scene will return later on the NTR path, unless it was indeed Patreon that had problems with it.

If i learned anything from here is that the patrons are likely cool with the developer's decisions and it is likely because of the second reason you pointed out the scene was taken.

 

[DA22]

If i learned anything from here is that the patrons are likely cool with the developer's decisions and it is likely because of the second reason you pointed out the scene was taken.

Ah I meant the Patreon morality police department. Not only incest can be against their rules. Not always easy to prove to their satisfaction that certain content falls under artistic, especially that early in game when there is no further story to back it up or you have to deal with the wrong person.

 

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The animation not working thoo its suck

 

[Dependable_223]

Ah I meant the Patreon morality police department. Not only incest can be against their rules. Not always easy to prove to their satisfaction that certain content falls under artistic, especially that early in game when there is no further story to back it up or you have to deal with the wrong person.

That scene was perfectly fine if it was under the ntr path only it should have stayed like that dont see why it was removed on both path though. unless he was redoing that scene anyway.

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

That scene was perfectly fine if it was under the ntr path only it should have stayed like that dont see why it was removed on both path though. unless he was redoing that scene anyway.

Yeah. That is more likely than patreon hunting down this specific developer when they make a blind eye to all games that don't openly break their rules with their "neighboors".

 

[fr34ky]

This game looks good but I don't want to lose time, can anyone confirm that you can get at least a BJ scene with the main girls? (mom, sis or whetever they are)

 

[RC-1138 Boss]

This game looks good but I don't want to lose time, can anyone confirm that you can get at least a BJ scene with the main girls? (mom, sis or whetever they are)

James can have anal sex with his girlfriend Olivia.

 

[Spfjolietjake]

damnit didn't read that it was changed before I deleted my old copy grrrr. Have no clue where to look for an old version.

Anyway still enjoying this vn and appreciate that the level of darkness is my choice. Best of luck and looking forward to more

 

[Sihil]

6 ending would be a bit too much. I say would lower the number of ending and make more contents for the ending. It would be much better. Otherwise each ending will leave us with a meh feeling ..

Also please make a ending/scene gallery so players can know if they have cleared every possible scenario

Yeah, a gallery would be added soon. As for the endings, this is the number that I feel fits right. The more variables we add the more endings there will inevitably be so there's not much that can be changed here. As for feeling "meh" that would be dependent on my skill as a writer rather than however many endings we have.

I hope he is fixing some hardcoded name issues as well..
being called "Name" is just wrong LMAO!
there was another scene where we were called "MC" as well but forgot to take a screen..

edit: and there was a scene with Ashly where either she was referring to MC as "Ash" or it was a nametag mismatch and was supposed to be said by the MC.. wasn't sure..

Oops, seems even the proofreaders missed that. We'll get it fixed.

Ok, at least there is some semblance of order coming. It also kinda seemed like the end of this update pointed toward a chance to switch sides, but maybe I'm just reading into that.

Still it would be nice to have at least a semi-spoiler in this case.

Like: Are all girls available on both non-ntr paths, regardless of how it effects ending? Or will some be forbidden depending on which path you take?

The idea was that a few girls would be available on one path and others on the other one was appealing to me at first but right now, I don't know if I will able to flesh them all out and still be able to move the story forward on top of developing relationships with the primary characters.

Are we still forced to cheat on the girlfriend? And is the NTR avoidable?

Afraid so. And yes, it is avoidable.

I like this game but should I wait for the next update? I play on non-ntr route are the coding clean ups going to make a big enough difference that I should wait? Just curious want to get the best playthrough I can?

I would recommend waiting. The saves would likely be useless with the overhaul anyway.

Played for the first time and I have quite "the zebra feeling". On one hand, good reanders, really good, and there's a story, it's not only about who fucks who and how much, even without porn such story can be worth my time. If not what is on the other hand.
Typos and Engrish can be tolerable, even in such quantities as we see it in this game, I even can tolerate wrong names above textfield. Devs have a good story but they tell it in a bad way. Mixed order of scenes, no notifiers when scene changes, and most irritating thing - absence of logic in story. MC has a girlfriend, young, beautiful and eveready for sex, as we see in the beginning. Without any explanation MC got Oedipus complex right on the spot. And more of that, he lusts for his sister too. Well, maybe not lusts but actually has feelings, but he clearly has feelings for his gf too. Some story twists later Zel says that MC's gf is frigid and boring, MC don't argue with that (while his frigid and boring gf strips for him showing creative underwear). Wtf? That's only one strory line, all others have the same twisted logic or complete absense of logic at all. It's like dev don't have a complete storyline, only the beginning set of events and then they just invent something for the story every update.
And my personal turn-off - player don't choose for MC who he lusts. We can choose for some side girls (actually beautiful models by the way) but not for MC's relatives. I can understand if MC tear himself apart between Olivia and Ashley, that was his problem for a long time (and maybe Olivia and Ashley are besties), but with good personal life there's unexplainable desire for incest... well, this game urgently needs some common sense.

The typos and Engrish get fixed as soon as the proofreaders find them. Some still slip through the cracks but they eventually get pointed out here. Multiple people have noted that the scene transitions are jarring so we'll fix those as well, hopefully in the next update.
As for incest being forced, it is necessary for the reasons that will later be revealed in the game. And when Zel calls anyone else frigid, well, she's more corrupt than most people so most people would appear frigid to her. Just like most people would appear poor to Bill Gates. Olivia had her limits as any healthy person would but Zel doesn't so yeah, that's what makes her appear frigid to Zel. It's also important to note that Zel wants MC to use his powers so she also has an ulterior motive here.
That being said, if I have to explain the characters and their decisions it means I did a poor job in the game, for you at least.
Regarding the lack of choices though, the more choices we add, the less cohesive MC's personality gets. I still want the MC to have some personality so we're going the option of giving fewer, better fleshed-out choices.

Kind a sad the Carl scene with MC's mom got deleted. Good thing i have the old game saved. But it's a damn shame when a dev sell's out like this just cause they can't stand the heat.

The reasons why we "sold out" were multiple and you'll find all of them here itself. I had a long discussion with a user here and my plan with Carl was to make him a mentor figure and he rightly pointed out that the non-NTR players would never grow to like him if he intended to rape Sara in the very first episode. Another reason was the fact that someone was threatening to report the game for rape unless we remove NTR so we decided to remove the most obvious example of rape in the game instead of removing NTR.
Lastly, the scene has not simply been deleted. It will eventually be used later in the game should you make the necessary choices.

 

[Spfjolietjake]

perfect stopping on this update. Truly pissed me off cause I wanted more lol. Can't wait til more.