VN Ren'Py Abandoned Lord of Imagination [Ep. 4.5 NTR] [AgentGames]

[harsha_26]

Every fan of something wants his content in every game, no matter NTr, pregnancy or harem.

Haters want to remove content they hate from every game, just if they can miss it, because "i know its there, it makes me frustrating"

Yeah, but those situations mostly occur in Non-Ntr focused game, where the NTR content (like one or two scenes or might be quite few) is added suddenly or added just to convince NTR fans to play that game. In NTR focused games, i have seen NTR fans also been very vocal against some vanilla scenes with cuck-MC. But you see most of NON NTR fans being vocal becoz, frankly still today, overall fanbase (in terms of population in f95) is heavily non-ntr based compare to NTR fanbase which is still a non-regular fetish. And it's true that lot of people play these games to immerse themselves & be the hero to bang all girls in that game.

 

[DA22]

Every fan of something wants his content in every game, no matter NTr, pregnancy or harem.

Haters want to remove content they hate from every game, just if they can miss it, because "i know its there, it makes me frustrating"

Well problem is with NTR for more romantic/immersive players is for many it really does destroy their game or at least characters when it is in. It is a pity, but that just has to do with nature of NTR games, their subject, fetishes and themes and how opposed they are for the goals those players play for. There is a reason even most hardcore NTR haters tend to stay away from full NTR focused games from start. They are just not fun for them, but the opposite

 

[SAMASH112]

This game has been tagged with NTR from the start, so the whining, arguing and efforts to change the game is absurd and really annoying.

 

[DA22]

They're in every thread with such tag and no, they don't stay away. They know this game was created with NTR tag from the beggining, but they enter in the thread just to disturb or for fun, dunno. Example this gentleman:Johnny6

Well I can not talk about Johnny, but I can guarantee that the first version did have the Carl rape and no NTR tag or rape tag. I played it. It was not a good surprise, since it is the form with direct family members that is my big turn off.

Besides this is a two path game, those will always have a what is the NTR tag for question (since it is too widely used) and the question how avoidable is it. Since non-NTR players are not all the same either and for example for part of them another dick is not really a problem while for others it is a major one and again others do not mind if it is lesbian NTR and others do mind.

 

[SAMASH112]

Well I can not talk about Johnny, but I can guarantee that the first version did have the Carl rape and no NTR tag or rape tag. I played it. It was not a good surprise, since it is the form with direct family members that is my big turn off.

Besides this is a two path game, those will always have a what is the NTR tag for question (since it is too widely used) and the question how avoidable is it. Since non-NTR players are not all the same either and for example for part of them another dick is not really a problem while for others it is a major one and again others do not mind if it is lesbian NTR and others do mind.

That was in september of last year and the game already had that content.

 

[DA22]

That was in september of last year and the game already had that content.

Yeah, but no tag and then due to our friends at patreon things were changed, new writer with new vision came aboard and now we have a two path game (actually more but with NTR way more avoidable), so is is natural there are players here that are not great NTR fans, but are unterested in the story. Not seen many though here after Sihil set out his plans that asked for removal of NTR paths, did see people complaining about not enough NTR yet though, while there is about as much of both if understood correctly.

 

[SAMASH112]

Yeah, but no tag and then due to our friends at patreon things were changed, new writer with new vision came aboard and now we have a two path game (actually more but with NTR way more avoidable), so is is natural there are players here that are not great NTR fans, but are unterested in the story. Not seen many though here after Sihil set out his plans that asked for removal of NTR paths, did see people complaining about not enough NTR yet though, while there is about as much of both if understood correctly.

Yeah. I understand what you mean, but I insist that if you see those scenes from the beginning... the normal thing is that you get the idea of what the game is about. Making another path is fine, but they're not even happy. They want the developer make the game however they want. Intolerance is not good.

 

[DA22]

Yeah. I understand what you mean, but I insist that if you see those scenes from the beginning... the normal thing is that you get the idea of what the game is about. Making another path is fine, but they're not even happy. They want the developer make the game however they want. Intolerance is not good.

Well overall I am actually not to big a fan of adding Non-NTR paths to a NTR game anyway, since it rarely works, some exceptions like Babysitter that did it pretty well or the Spellbook are the exception and not the rule.

I prefer devs to make the game they want to and story they want to tell, even if that game might not be for me then. Just be honest about it from start with tags and in description and stick to your plans, if want to make a NTR game, do so and give your players the scenes they are looking for. If want to make a game for the more immersive players, remember what their needs are and do not suddenly add NPC focused scenes in episode 5, without a warning from start you were planning to add cucking, swinging or real NTR.

Here the mistake was that description did not make anyone think there would be serious rape content by a NPC and also tag was missing at start, leading to very fiery start on this thread when people were unpleasantly surprised.

 

[SAMASH112]

Well overall I am actually not to big a fan of adding Non-NTR paths to a NTR game anyway, since it rarely works, some exceptions like Babysitter that did it pretty well or the Spellbook are the exception and not the rule.

I prefer devs to make the game they want to and story they want to tell, even if that game might not be for me then. Just be honest about it from start with tags and in description and stick to your plans, if want to make a NTR game, do so and give your players the scenes they are looking for. If want to make a game for the more immersive players, remember what their needs are and do not suddenly add NPC focused scenes in episode 5, without a warning from start you were planning to add cucking, swinging or real NTR.

Here the mistake was that description did not make anyone think there would be serious rape content by a NPC and also tag was missing at start, leading to very fiery start on this thread when people were unpleasantly surprised.

Hahaha Well... Those users saw what they wanted to see but the scene was already there! so they were already warned from that moment.. The developer made a mistake when configuring the post (I want to believe), since he is not J.Uploader couldn't edit it. It happens to many, and they don't take long to include the tag, we've already seen it many times.
Yeah. Those games that you say despite everything did well, and are still successful.

The developer has to know how to impose himself, defend his project and work on it. Let him make all the paths that he wants to include in the game, and I think it's always nice to have more content and choices. By the way, what makes me laugh the most, are these who complain and demand in this thread. Most of them haven't never paid to support him on patreon. And it's not that I'm accusing them, but they should be thanking him for playing for free, instead of complaining so much.

 

[DA22]

Hahaha Well... Those users saw what they wanted to see but the scene was already there! so they were already warned from that moment.. The developer made a mistake when configuring the post (I want to believe), since he is not J.Uploader couldn't edit it. It happens to many, and they don't take long to include the tag, we've already seen it many times.
Yeah. Those games that you say despite everything did well, and are still successful.

The developer has to know how to impose himself, defend his project and work on it. Let him make all the paths that he wants to include in the game, and I think it's always nice to have more content and choices. By the way, what makes me laugh the most, are these who complain and demand in this thread. Most of them haven't never paid to support him on patreon. And it's not that I'm accusing them, but they should be thanking him for playing for free, instead of complaining so much.

Well I do not agree that more fetishes make a game more fun, I overall prefer if a dev only chooses a limited amount of fetishes and does those really well, as seeing twenty scenes that leave me more or less cold but for 2 hot scenes in game, but hey that is just me. Also my opinion is that devs on the whole are much better when making content and stories they also like, instead of when making content they think players like, unless they are real professionals.

 

[SAMASH112]

Well I do not agree that more fetishes make a game more fun, I overall prefer if a dev only chooses a limited amount of fetishes and does those really well, as seeing twenty scenes that leave me more or less cold but for 2 hot scenes in game, but hey that is just me. Also my opinion is that devs on the whole are much better when making content and stories they also like, instead of when making content they think players like, unless they are real professionals.

Nah, I wasn't exactly referring to fetishes but to paths and options/choices.

And there is the key!! Take your original project, from the beginning, keep it in that direction and especially that you like it. DRPinkcake knows a lot about that.

 

[Sihil]

Lord of Imagination ch.4 non NTR version is out for top tier patrons
Hello everyone,


The title says it all. The main purpose of this update was to move the corruption path forward but of course, you'll find a few spicy scenes in there as well.


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An important note: We added an option to use Darklight on Diane in episode 2. The consequence of it WILL be felt in ep 4. If you're using the old saves, the game will assume that you have not used DL on her in ep 2 but I recommend starting a new game and playing through that choice as well.

 

[RandomGuy99]

Now we wait for Pirate King to appear

 

[Kakato]

Now we wait for Pirate King to appear

After Onigashima, I think. Once, Luffy beats Kaido

 

[RandomGuy99]

After Onigashima, I think. Once, Luffy beats Kaido

The series end in two years. You forget Blackbeard, he will be the final badie. Mark my words

 

[Kakato]

The series end in two years. You forget Blackbeard, he will be the final badie. Mark my words

Indeed, Teach might be the last obstacle, but beating Kaido pretty guarantees the pirate King status. Some pplz say Shanks is a double-agent and will be the last foe. Let's wait and see

 

[Draco0]

All of the NTR scenes are missing or deleted, if someone doesn't like NTR they can just skip it. Why delete something that's a part of the game just to please others?

 

[Rannug]

Has the NTR been removed???? it was optional/avoidable if I remember correctly.
I'm not an NTR fan, but Devs should make the game as they want it.
if players have a problem with that, then they should do like a gentleman and kindly F off.

 

[Raziel_8]

All of the NTR scenes are missing or deleted, if someone doesn't like NTR they can just skip it. Why delete something that's a part of the game just to please others?

Has the NTR been removed???? it was optional/avoidable if I remember correctly.
I'm not an NTR fan, but Devs should make the game as they want it.
if players have a problem with that, then they should do like a gentleman and kindly F off.

The writer changed and with it the directition.
IIRC the NTR/Rape was too early and didn't fit how the new writer want to portray a certain antagonist/mentor + it was a easy pick for patreon police.
The scenes will probably return at a later point.

U can also use the search function, Sihil has explained this several times in this thread, if u want more information about it.

 

[Rannug]

The writer changed and with it the directition.
IIRC the NTR/Rape was too early and didn't fit how the new writer want to portray a certain antagonist/mentor + it was a easy pick for patreon police.
The scenes will probably return at a later point.

U can also use the search function, Sihil has explained this several times in this thread, if u want more information about it.

thanks for the info, and if he has problems with patreon he really should think about going to subscribestar.
since i hear that they are more lenient.