hakarlman

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What is the first thing you're supposed to do in this game?

I read the tutorial in game, but none of it makes any sense. The best way to teach someone to play a complicated game is to instruct them do one small thing at a time.

The dev needs to keep it simple. Have a quest list in the game that tells you precisely what to do, so you can learn.

*sigh*

I extracted all the images using a Unity Extractor. The CG looks VERY good. But the game doesn't guide you. Reading 50 sentences of tutorial doesn't teach you as much as being guided while playing.
 
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What is the first thing you're supposed to do in this game?

I read the tutorial in game, but none of it makes any sense. The best way to teach someone to play a complicated game is to instruct them do one small thing at a time.

So I'm looking around the house. Now what?

I read the walkthrough and it's a fucking disaster, the same disaster of a tutorial that's in the game.

The dev needs to keep it simple. Have a quest list in the game that tells you precisely what to do, so you can learn.

*sigh*

I extracted all the images using a Unity Extractor. The CG looks VERY good, but my god, the tutorial is total and utter shit, and so is the walkthrough.

Okay, mother is in the kitchen. How do you speak to her?
when you go into the room occupied by someone, you looking in right-bottom for buttons. there is three usual. lower one have dialog bubble on it (starting conversation), right above (middle one) is asking for money (dropping relationship), and top one is encouraging behavior (used when you want to change archetype of person - check tutorial for additional info)
having conversation: while talking you using topics from your hotbar (green one), up to three topics for conversation. depending on it`s tags topics have different impact on person you talking to (tutorial actually very helpful if you go through it thoroughly). you gaining experience from used tags and interests of person you talking to.
shit i not gonna write it all, damn big post will be... and i`m not english native to add an insult to injury.
 
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hakarlman

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when you go into the room occupied by someone, you looking in right-bottom for buttons. there is three usual. lower one have dialog bubble on it (starting conversation), right above (middle one) is asking for money (dropping relationship), and top one is encouraging behavior (used when you want to change archetype of person - check tutorial for additional info)
Yea, but how do you unlock sex scenes? The bottom right options only lead me to losing relations with the women.

having conversation: while talking you using topics from your hotbar (green one), up to three topics for conversation. depending on it`s tags topics have
This just causes the relations to go down.

different impact on person you talking to (tutorial actually very helpful if you go through it thoroughly). you gaining experience from used tags and interests of person you talking to.
shit i not gonna write it all, damn big post will be... and i`m not english native to add an insult to injury.
Thanks, I appreciate the response.

Sadly, I've been playing like 30-40 minutes and nothing has happened. My relations keep going down with all the women.

Damn this sucks. The CG is very good. The gameplay looks interesting, but I can't figure it out.

What's the pacing like in this game? Do I have to grind for 3 hours to unlock one sex scene?

GRind 3 hours.
Unlock one sex scene?
Grind 3 more hours, unlock sex scene? Is that how it works?
 

Sanders2100

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Yea, but how do you unlock sex scenes? The bottom right options only lead me to losing relations with the women.



This just causes the relations to go down.



Thanks, I appreciate the response.

Sadly, I've been playing like 30-40 minutes and nothing has happened. My relations keep going down with all the women.

Damn this sucks. The CG is very good. The gameplay looks interesting, but I can't figure it out.
you not gonna get sex scenes fast. or at all - without learning game mechanics and use knowledge properly. as for question how to succeed with conversation - that`s what tutorial for (other important things aside)
if you not want to actually playing - maybe just save your time and go for easy&quick options? there is a lot supply of visual novels everywhere
 

hakarlman

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you not gonna get sex scenes fast. or at all - without learning game mechanics and use knowledge properly. as for question how to succeed with conversation - that`s what tutorial for (other important things aside)
if you not want to actually playing - maybe just save your time and go for easy&quick options? there is a lot supply of visual novels everywhere
I've been playing for an hour and a half and I've only seen the sister naked in the shower.

I'm gonna give up soon.

Jesus, how much relations do you need for anything to happen?
 
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DragonFire

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Yea, but how do you unlock sex scenes? The bottom right options only lead me to losing relations with the women.



This just causes the relations to go down.



Thanks, I appreciate the response.

Sadly, I've been playing like 30-40 minutes and nothing has happened. My relations keep going down with all the women.

Damn this sucks. The CG is very good. The gameplay looks interesting, but I can't figure it out.

What's the pacing like in this game? Do I have to grind for 3 hours to unlock one sex scene?

GRind 3 hours.
Unlock one sex scene?
Grind 3 more hours, unlock sex scene? Is that how it works?
To understand this game it's about conversations. You gather topics and use those when you interact with another.
You can use 3 topics in a conversation.
Every character have their own Personality, or AT, check the phone for more details on that.
Depending on the AT they like or dislike certain Topics.
If they like a topic you get positive result, if they don't like it you get negative.
Getting positive response result in experience with that topic for both you and the person you speak to, improving skills and /or stats related to the topic.

So you have to remember what each person likes to talk about, pretty simple.

And what's you goal with all this? Well you, the MC, can work towards changing the personalities of the other characters, making them more open to certain naughty things with the MC..
When you do change a personality, the topic they like and dislike changed, meaning you need to figure out what topics to collect and use on them now.
That's the challenge, learning how to interact with others.

Each topic informs what it is about, some include many fields of interests. If any of those are on a persons Ban list, you get negative response even if the other ones are on their Like list.

If the topic's fields of interest is neither on Ban or Like list, it's neutral.

A neutral will open up new knowledge if the overall conversation ends positive.

Use the first 2 topics with what is liked, then a neutral, and it ends positive.
If you use neutral first the conversation will start negative, because your talking about something the person knows nothing about or doesn't really interest them.. yet.. get it?

The beginning of this game is slow but it goes faster the more experienced the MC gets.

If you're not into actually playing a game then this one might not be for you, for as the Dev wrote not so long ago:
He makes a game that has porn in it, he doesn't make porn masqueraded as a game.

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On a personal note, when you get into how it all works the results are worth it for as you pointed out the renders are amazing!
When you finally get to something new, both the pictures and text is VERY well made!
This is an experienced Dev with attention to detail, once you like his work you will get hooked, no question about it.
However you will have to prepare yourself to spend hours on playing, because it's about developing your character and those he interact with.
Cheating your way into it can break the game, that's a general rule for all games.. mess with the code is like shooting craps unless your an expert.

I find it that the harder I work for something, the more I enjoy and appreciate the result. If it's fast and easy I just don't care so much for it afterwards.
For this game I care a lot, so much I'm starting to find ways to include it in my budget to become a patron.
For example, when my MC got to bang one of the other characters for the first time, I was like.. "OMG I am banging her, I am really banging her!! This is sooo Good!"
Had it been fast an easy I would have been like.. "oh, he had sex, meh.. okay, whats next?"
 
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To understand this game it's about conversations. You gather topics and use those when you interact with another.
You can use 3 topics in a conversation.
Every character have their own Personality, or AT, check the phone for more details on that.
Depending on the AT they like or dislike certain Topics.
If they like a topic you get positive result, if they don't like it you get negative.
Getting positive response result in experience with that topic for both you and the person you speak to, improving skills and /or stats related to the topic.

So you have to remember what each person likes to talk about, pretty simple.

And what's you goal with all this? Well you, the MC, can work towards changing the personalities of the other characters, making them more open to certain naughty things with the MC..
When you do change a personality, the topic they like and dislike changed, meaning you need to figure out what topics to collect and use on them now.
That's the challenge, learning how to interact with others.

Each topic informs what it is about, some include many fields of interests. If any of those are on a persons Ban list, you get negative response even if the other ones are on their Like list.

If the topic's fields of interest is neither on Ban or Like list, it's neutral.

A neutral will open up new knowledge if the overall conversation ends positive.

Use the first 2 topics with what is liked, then a neutral, and it ends positive.
If you use neutral first the conversation will start negative, because your talking about something the person knows nothing about or doesn't really interest them.. yet.. get it?

The beginning of this game is slow but it goes faster the more experienced the MC gets.

If you're not into actually playing a game then this one might not be for you, for as the Dev wrote not so long ago:
He makes a game that has porn in it, he doesn't make porn masqueraded as a game.
Is it normal for nothing to happen in the first 90 minutes of gameplay?

edit: aah fuck it i give up.
 
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Is it normal for nothing to happen in the first 90 minutes of gameplay?
The start of this game is very slow, yes, so that might be called "normal".
The MC is inexperienced, you have to change that by earning experience for him, making him level up.. then things gets faster.
 

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You're losing relations because you aren't talking about things that they want to hear about, but setting that aside, this isn't the game for you anyway since it takes a significant amount of work to actually get to the sex. It's more game than porn.
 
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I've been playing for an hour and a half and I've only seen the sister naked in the shower.

I'm gonna give up soon.

Jesus, how much relations do you need for anything to happen?
NONE of them save for Charlie will accept talking about sex, romance or anything perverted right out of the box.
You need to actually put work into this game before you can see anything. It's not a quick fap game, it's a slow burner.
 

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What is the first thing you're supposed to do in this game?

I read the tutorial in game, but none of it makes any sense. The best way to teach someone to play a complicated game is to instruct them do one small thing at a time.

The dev needs to keep it simple. Have a quest list in the game that tells you precisely what to do, so you can learn.

*sigh*

I extracted all the images using a Unity Extractor. The CG looks VERY good. But the game doesn't guide you. Reading 50 sentences of tutorial doesn't teach you as much as being guided while playing.
Just do whatever you want. You can't make mistakes really.

Just start doing stuff and you will figure out how things work. As you learn how to play you will get more efficient. The only thing you lose in the beginning by just doing whatever is your time. You lose nothing in game.

I have played from scratch twice. Once you understand the mechanics you can play must more efficiently but you aren't gaining anything in game.

Experiment and explore.

Go back and read the tutorial once you understand the game a bit more.
 
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NONE of them save for Charlie will accept talking about sex, romance or anything perverted right out of the box.
You need to actually put work into this game before you can see anything. It's not a quick fap game, it's a slow burner.
There are a lot of games on F95 where tags give a very false vision on what is the game.

Seeing this one tagged as sandbox is a good example but most of them could be removed because they don't really describe the game, the only ones really corresponding are dating sim, male protagonist, incest and management.
 
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What is the first thing you're supposed to do in this game?
The first thing you're supposed to is figure out that the game does NOT hold your hand.
There's been useful halp offered all over this thread at this point. You only have to go looking.
The first thing I do is work towards maxing out Social Media for the increased topic acquisition rate.
 

Automagic

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Yes, just takes me time. Here it is.

Edit: I included the cheat sheet I use personally, which is just screengrabs of the likes and dislikes of each of the archetypes. I am missing Queen Bee Becky and Immediagram Diane for now, I will get to the later. If you happen to have two monitors, it can be helpful to have the cheatsheet up so you don't have to switch back and forth between your phone and your backpack when loading your hotbar.
Any chance of a v6 update? Have run out of ideas for new things to try so I can unlock all scenes.
 

Strec

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After some tests on 6.02 I think 2*1 hour of transport to work as a personal trainer is too much and kill the job, returning to home would be free.

More generally, at least in the current state of the game while we don't have a car or cycle, transport time is to heavy and I think transport cost would be based on money and energy (stamina), making it easier to be tuned.
 

SmellyPork

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Hello guys!
I wrote about this problem before but still cant finish this event with Becky.
There should be a button or something to go further but as u can see there nothing on screen to push. It is her last promotion event, where she gives MC a BJ before party.
Can anyone help?
Thx.
 
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