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Kofferaffe

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Dec 25, 2020
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I can't encourage Gina's behavior:inviting.I can't find it when I press the botton.But in characters,it has turn green.
Run into the same problem last version. Some suggestions were to bring Lust to 100 or simply wait a few days, but nothing fixed that problem for me. idk if this is broken, if you have any sexual interaction with her after the AT change (MC said something about deny her more orgasms) or it have something to do with the dominance level (i skilled aggression and dominance very high, so Gina was at -40 dominance the time i meet the skill requirements for inviting.
i deleted the entry game folders inclusive saves and started new with this update. Sad to know that i maybe run into this roadblock again.

PS: Sorry formy english, not a native speaker.
 
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jike1233

Newbie
Oct 22, 2021
18
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Run into the same problem last version. Some suggestions were to bring Lust to 100 or simply wait a few days, but nothing fixed that problem for me. idk if this is broken, if you have any sexual interaction with her after the AT change (MC said something about deny her more orgasms) or it have something to do with the dominance level (i skilled aggression and dominance very high, so Gina was at -40 dominance the time i meet the skill requirements for inviting.
i deleted the entry game folders inclusive saves and started new with this update. Sad to know that i maybe run into this roadblock again.

PS: Sorry formy english, not a native speaker.
Sorry formy english, not a native speaker too
But how could i get the gina's dominance point?it's zero now
 

Hajtand

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Nov 5, 2017
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Sorry formy english, not a native speaker too
But how could i get the gina's dominance point?it's zero now
Spanking her at 11 o clock in the morning makes Gina less dominant. I don't think, I needed her to be more dominant, rather it was less. Should she need to be more dominant, then get some ranks in submission and talk to her with the topic you get. She'll get more dominant that way. You get submission and domination points from watching either bondage (dom) or pegging (sub) porn videos.
 

cainp

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Jul 27, 2020
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i have no goddamn idea even with the help of the walktrough how to get any lewd scenes in this game
 

selberdreher

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Dec 29, 2017
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i have no goddamn idea even with the help of the walktrough how to get any lewd scenes in this game
So i am not sure how deep your understanding of this game already is. I just assume you are quite new to it, so i start with some basics.
First of all you need to know, that all characters start with a specific Archetype (AT) with certain likes and dislikes. You can check them on the character tag on your Phone.

Sexual interactions are VERY restricted with basically all the starter ATs. You have to try to spark certain interests of the characters with conversations and interactions to be able to progress to the next AT. Higher ATs gradually allow more lewd interactions.
Be aware, with most characters it is a really slow progress, like you are allowed to peek on them or grope and kiss a little bit.
To get the juicy stuff like BJs or intercourse you often need to progress them like 3 or 4 times which will take a lot of time.

The real problem is that pretty much all lewds are heavily time gated and as well as dependent on certain stats and interactions.
So for some early (non-con) stuff with Gina you need to be at Friday or Saturday between 0:00 and 1:00 in the Living Room watching TV, you already need to have developed a taste for incest and probably even have enough arousal etc. That means getting Lewds is always a challenge and in the early stages of the games nearly impossible.
Your best bet is your Neighbor MILF Charlene (meet her at 17:00 in front of your House, but you will only get her attention if your appearance is high enough (5+?)) or your BigSis Gina for the drunk shennanigans.

In the beginning, as the Loser that you are, your computer with the internet is your best friend and your right hand your only girlfriend.

Hope this helps a bit.
 

xapican

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but nothing fixed that problem for me. idk if this is broken,
I will asume u speak german, No it is not broken, the Charcter change (AT) happens in some specific places.
As Selberdreher said; For Gina is it mostly in the livingroom between 0:00 and 1:00 information about the requierments to evovlve the AT you can find, in the Character Sheet (Cel) just hoover your mouse cursor over the the AT if it is only a behavior you can change with the thumbs up icon (encourage behavior) in the Interaction menu
all these depend from your own (MC) skill´s of course
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selberdreher

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On that note: people often complain here about the "insane" grind this game has, which i really find debatable. I am pretty much on the same page with baal7734 here, for me the "Grind" of Loser is actual gameplay.

The one thing that really bothers me a lot is the absurd time gating in Loser.
Again i understand it is supposed to be a puzzle, in which you need to manage your time and ressources, which is fine with me.

But there are a lot of time slots which just doesnt make sense at all.
Just a few examples:

We can go jogging from 10:00 to 20:00. The heck? Why not from 06:00 to 22:00 or even in the nighttime? Lots of people jog in the mornings even before breakfast.

Ofc we cant interact with Charlene before 17:00 at weekdays because she is at work, but there is no reason why we should have only the 17:00 and 18:00 time slots: especially if we progressed already to like Casual Fling, it should be expected that a women we have an affair with should be willing to hook up till like 22:00 (if her arousal is high enough) in the evening or watching netpix from 19:00 to 21:00 as Reawakened Widow.

Becky returns from school at 16:00 and stays awake till 21:00 and with a lot of her ATs we get exactly ONE time slot for conversation. Why? Lets give us the chance to bother her for a relationship hit when she is chatting with her friends!

Same with our Dad, lets bother him in the garage for a relationship malus to talk to him there!
Those could start with like -10 Relationship for the first time per day and could be getting bigger if we continue to bother them. Or disturbing AT Younger Sister Becky while chatting could be like -40 and soften down to -10 with later ATs?

Our Mom in her Room: why cant we knock after 18:00, again for an relationship penalty of -15 to -45 the later we bother her? She surely isnt asleep before 23:00?

Lets wake up Gina before 12:00 in her early ATs and see how angry she can get! Perhaps either for a Yes Ma'am topic and submission or we could offer her some blue, red or pink pills to fight her hangover headache?

We can go downtown at 05:00 to be at the gym at 06:00 to workout, but we cant go to the bar at 21:00 to be there when it opens at 22:00? Again why? The Keys to the car would be still desireable, because we can use them without the 1 hour penalty.

Family Dinner at 18:00 could be a wildcard to talk to someone of our choosing, or dropping the fork you know.

The weekends Saturday and Sunday are still heavily underutilized, how about some bonding time with your Family? Watching Sports with Dad for instance? Ofc he dont want to talk to you while watching, but watching together for some +5 Rel and a chance for the Sports topic? We still would miss out on Charlys Photoshoot and Ginas Walk at the park.
Another problem with the weekend is that i reguarly am stockpiling topics, often loosing important transient ones, because there is zero occasion to get rid of any of them in a conversation with someone till 15:00 (only if you have already access to Jesse, and why you should talk to Tilley is beyond me) or even later.

Given the importance of the Friday night party for Beckys progression we cant really miss out on any of those, at the same time these are the only timeslots for some of Moms later Lewds or her quality time with Dad. I understand that this is supposed to be a tough decision, but there wouldn't any real harm to extent the party slots to either Friday OR Saturday evening, afterall it would still be only once(!) a week(!).

baal7734 you may argue that there needs to be a tradeoff for our actions, and i agree, but having options is never a bad thing and infact if i visit Charly at 22:00 to get a nice evening fuck i dont get to talk to my Dad without penalty, or if i bother my Mom at 20:00 for like -25 Relationship i dont get to grope Gina in the Bathroom, so i would argue there are more tradeoffs the more options you have.

Ultimately it is your Game and by all means do as you please (you will anyway), but perhaps you could consider this suggestions from someone who really likes your Games (Superpowered also), because i truly believe they will not damage the core Gameplay but enhance our Experience with it.

Looking forward to the next iteration of Loser, keep up the good work!

TL;DR Give us more Timeslots for interaction with the NPCs, please!
 
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xapican

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On that note: people often complain here about the insane grind this game has, which i really find debatable. I am pretty much on the same page with baal7734 here, for me the Grind of Loser is actual gameplay.

The one thing that really bothers me a lot is the absurd time gating in Loser.
Again i understand it is supposed to be a puzzle, in which you need to manage your time and ressources, which is fine with me.

But there are a lot of time slots which just doesnt make sense at all.
Just a few examples:

We can go jogging from 10:00 to 20:00. The heck? Why not from 06:00 to 22:00 or even in the nighttime? Lots of people jog in the mornings even before breakfast.

Ofc we cant interact with Charlene before 17:00 at weekdays because she is at work, but there is no reason why we should have only the 17:00 and 18:00 time slots: especially if we progressed already to like Casual Fling, it should be expected that a women we have an affair with should be willing to hook up till like 22:00 (if her arousal is high enough) in the evening or watching netpix from 19:00 to 21:00 as Reawakened Widow.

Becky returns from school at 16:00 and stays awake till 21:00 and with a lot of her ATs we get exactly ONE time slot for conversation. Why? Lets give us the chance to bother her for a relationship hit when she is chatting with her friends!

Same with our Dad, lets bother him in the garage for a relationship malus to talk to him there!
Those could start with like -10 Relationship for the first time per day and could be getting bigger if we continue to bother them. Or disturbing AT Younger Sister Becky while chatting could be like -40 and soften down to -10 with later ATs?

Our Mom in her Room: why cant we knock after 18:00, again for an relationship penalty of -15 to -45 the later we bother her? She surely isnt asleep before 23:00?

Lets wake up Gina before 12:00 in her early ATs and see how angry she can get! Perhaps either for a Yes Ma'am topic and submission or we could offer her some blue, red or pink pills to fight her hangover headache?

We can go downtown at 05:00 to be at the gym at 06:00 to workout, but we cant go to the bar at 21:00 to be there when it opens at 22:00? Again why? The Keys to the car would be still desireable, because we can use them without the 1 hour penalty.

Family Dinner at 18:00 could be a wildcard to talk to someone of our choosing, or dropping the fork you know.

The weekends Saturday and Sunday are still heavily underutilized, how about some bonding time with your Family? Watching Sports with Dad for instance? Ofc he dont want to talk to you while watching, but watching together for some +5 Rel and a chance for the Sports topic? We still would miss out on Charlys Photoshoot and Ginas Walk at the park.
Another problem with the weekend is that i reguarly am stockpiling topics, often loosing important transient ones, because there is zero occasion to get rid of any of them in a conversation with someone till 15:00 (only if you have already access to Jesse, and why you should talk to Tilley is beyond me) or even later.

Given the importance of the Friday night party for Beckys progression we cant really miss out on any of those, at the same time these are the only timeslots for some of Moms later Lewds or her quality time with Dad. I understand that this is supposed to be a tough decision, but there wouldn't any real harm to extent the party slots to either Friday OR Saturday evening, afterall it would still be only once(!) a week(!).

baal7734 you may argue that there needs to be a tradeoff for our actions, and i agree, but having options is never a bad thing and infact if i visit Charly at 22:00 to get a nice evening fuck i dont get to talk to my Dad without penalty, or if i bother my Mom at 20:00 for like -25 Relationship i dont get to grope Gina in the Bathroom, so i would argue there are more tradeoffs the more options you have.

Ultimately it is your Game and by all means do as you please (you will anyway), but perhaps you could consider this suggestions from someone who really likes your Games (Superpowered also), because i truly think they will not damage the core Gameplay but enhance our Experience with it.

Looking forward to the next iteration of Loser, keep up the good work!

TL;DR Give us more Timeslots for interaction with the NPCs, please!
Spoke form my Heart, I can only guess that it is planed like this only to get things more easier for less skilled player´s like myself, but totally agree with you on these terms , by the way is there a fix for the Becky bug in her room once she is inmediagramm sister ? where after the 3 conversation topics the screen freezes ? or will it be fixed in next update ?
 

selberdreher

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Dec 29, 2017
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Spoke form my Heart, I can only guess that it is planed like this only to get things more easier for less skilled player´s like myself, but totally agree with you on these terms , by the way is there a fix for the Becky bug in her room once she is inmediagramm sister ? where after the 3 conversation topics the screen freezes ? or will it be fixed in next update ?
If you are playing Version 0.07.02 Public already, i wouldnt expect this bug will be fixed until the next update, because Dev is working on Superpowered right now. My guess would be that switching constantly between projects to push out hotfixes disrupts somewhat their workflow. But that is just a guess, cant say for sure.
 
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jike1233

Newbie
Oct 22, 2021
18
4
For Diana,I can't get dancing XP.I used three kind of topic:it takes two,twerking,dirty dancing.But all the topic only raised relationship.
So how can I get it?thanks for answer.
 

selberdreher

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Dec 29, 2017
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For Diana,I can't get dancing XP.I used three kind of topic:it takes two,twerking,dirty dancing.But all the topic only raised relationship.
So how can I get it?thanks for answer.
I am pretty sure "Twerking" is on her Banned List for sexual. I raised her Dancing with my permanent Topic "Happy Dance". You get that Topic when you reach Dancing Level 1. Perhaps you have to burn above Topics for XP to get yourself to Dancing Lvl 1. Anyway the first 15 or 20% of a Characters XP are hidden, so perhaps you already gained some XP with "It takes Two" (which has Dancing and Romance?, i am not sure). Which Skills are on "Dirty Dancing"?
 
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jike1233

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Oct 22, 2021
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I am pretty sure Twerking is on her Banned List for sexual. I raised her Dancing with my permanent Topic "Happy Dance". You get that Topic when you reach Dancing Level 1. Perhaps you have to burn above Topics for XP to get yourself to Dancing Lvl 1.
yes I find it.I was not notice the permanent topic- -
 
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xapican

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Just a(ctually 2) question to the more expierenced player´s how do I get the Jesse favor topic ? and is it possible to make Diane go to Insagramm Mother after being at Resinged Mother ? I mean are there similar Photoshoots like with Becky ?
 

Hajtand

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I am pretty sure "Twerking" is on her Banned List for sexual. I raised her Dancing with my permanent Topic "Happy Dance". You get that Topic when you reach Dancing Level 1. Perhaps you have to burn above Topics for XP to get yourself to Dancing Lvl 1. Anyway the first 15 or 20% of a Characters XP are hidden, so perhaps you already gained some XP with "It takes Two" (which has Dancing and Romance?, i am not sure). Which Skills are on "Dirty Dancing"?
Yeah. Anything under the umbrella tags of major topics (yellow words) are banned on the topics they hate. It's a little wonky to check. Because you need to at least know of the topic. Before you can see what is under the umbrella of those tags in your skill menu.

The fastest way I got my dancing skill level'ed up, was in the strip bar. You can get to lvl 1 in a single night if I recall correctly. There wasn't much difference in regards to the dance skill between lap dance and drink except the price. So go for the cheapest option.

Regarding Diane as a resigned mother. There are so many archetypes that sounds simular and means the same. Most of them starting with "re...". Is resigned the one where she accidently mutters the MC's name during sex? Sadly I don't think it's possible to go back once you get to that point. At least in this itteration. It'd also be kind of weird, since they'd have to forget a lot that has happened between them.

I haven't begun on Jesse yet (that much), so I sadly don't know.
 
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Regarding Diane as a resigned mother. There are so many archetypes that sounds simular and means the same. Most of them starting with "re...". Is resigned the one where she accidently mutters the MC's name during sex? Sadly I don't think it's possible to go back once you get to that point. At least in this itteration. It'd also be kind of weird, since they'd have to forget a lot that has happened between them.
Well its not possible now since Baal hasn't added the abilitiy to go back to a previous AT with Diane. With Gina you can go back to previous AT, from Brother Fucker to Sister With Benifits to Bartender and they can have sex with Nathan in these ATs. So its not impossible to have a Health Nut Diane have sex with Nathan.

Just a(ctually 2) question to the more expierenced player´s how do I get the Jesse favor topic ?
Give Jesse a "massage". Or, while you are dealing you may run into Jesse and you can give her a free joint for the favor (I think you need to own and wear a longcoat for this encounter to happen).
 
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pellizza

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May 7, 2017
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Hiyall

A game question (v7.02)

Permanent Dominance topics seem to work differently on different characters even if not banned.
My PC has dominance 3 so I expect dominance topics give a -1 dominance to any NPC. But permanent topics like "In Control" or "Beyond Reprach" seem to work with some of them and not with others, while transient topics like "Yes Sir" or "Director" seem to work with no restriction.

I'm a little confused here. Can anybody please explain?
Thanks
 
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