Unity - Loser [v0.11.00] [Night City Productions]

It is a good game. The females are very sexy. It is little tricky to get all the field you want there is alot of work in this game so you need to be aware of that and i like it like and there for i will give it 5 stars

There is a lot of grind in this game... though to be fair, only a little of it is typical grind, more of a time management system.
The real downside is that it is click happy. There are few shortcuts (and no quicksave), so you have to click on specific icons to bring up submenus to find the action you want to do next. This is frustrating, and there is high chance that you'll do something wrong, requiring either waiting a week for the event to come up again, or loading (without quicksave/quickload).

If you like slow build/burn games, this one is pretty addictive... but it's not perfect.

PRO
Diane/mom and Gina/big sister 3D models

BAD
Everything else.
The rest of the female characters don't attract my attention, Becky/little sister seems horrible to me, and the father is there because there has to be a father. If he wasn't there, he wouldn't be too noticeable either.

Where do I begin...

The idea is not that it is bad. Talk to the characters and improve their personalities to upgrade them. The problem comes when there are personalities that are not used at all.
Not to mention the grind. Repeat and repeat to improve their stats.
But what annoys me the most is when you already have the requirements to upgrade the NPC and... MISSING TOPIC/WHISKEY/VODKA/JOINT/ETC... Wait a week to try again.
It is true that upgrading the NPCs at first is easy, but then it becomes tedious. For a certain character, you need a TOPIC that is given to you by another character that you previously have to "downgrade" to get that.

Another thing that drives me crazy is that except for your room and bathroom, you can't change the TOPICS. You are going to talk to an NPC, and before doing so, you must first go through your room/bathroom to bring the correct TOPICS for that NPC.
And certain TOPICS are difficult to achieve.

I know that the DEV wants to keep us entertained while he adds a new update to the game, but there comes a point that it gets so tiring to go back and forth, change TOPICS, be in the exact place and time to discover a new event, get certain pills, (the blue one and the red one I haven't gotten any yet)... I think it's all too complex. I'm not saying that the DEV makes a game very easy, but I'm not saying that it will drive you crazy.
And yes, I have ended up crazy with the game.

At the end, CGRip, and see the new content added.

PS: If you play without cheats, multiply the tediousness by 10.

This one simply has too many moving parts. It's the Rube Goldberg of V/Ns. It might be good if it were streamlined down.

The basic plot is fine but the writing and dialog simply aren't good enough to warrant the work involved. I'd have stuck around longer if it were more compelling.

It's easy to see that some effort went into it but the effort was aimed in the wrong places. The tutorial need help as well.

After a few hours of incredibly slow 'progress' I actually downloaded a cheat mod. Fully recommended it, it makes the game playable. I gave MC 200 points in every skill and and gave all other characters max skills. I decided not to use cheats on anything else. So I 'only' needed money, character conversions and of course remaining skills. And you know what? Even with these cheats I still needed days to finish the game (this version at least). Without cheats you'll probably need WEEKS of repeating the same actions again and again... I actually like sandbox games yet this is really too much. XP gains for all actions should be at least 2x faster.

But all grinding aside - it's not a bad game. It's actually quite good for its genre, if you accept all unnecessary grinding ofc.

It is a good game. It takes a while to learn it. The females are very sexy. It is little tricky to get all the field you want, but it is worth playing through the whole thing. Gina is my favorite character out of all them.

I tried to play it several times, but the game is unbearable. I'm interested in the story and the graphics are good. But it is terribly tedious to play it. Sometimes I don't understand a game for ADULTS (we already know what they are for) made this way they take away the desire for everything. A shame. Hopefully the same story and graphics with another game mode.

its one of the few games that can add a lot of replayability if the developer still work in this game.

the engine and gameplay its a little slow but the interactions and the posibility of changing the personality of all the npcs its the strong point in this game

The good:
The story. Of cause, incest is wincest. It works enough to open your pants, but all the issues with the game make your dick as limp as an uncooked steak on a jewish wedding.

The art is somewhat ok'ish. It is not top level, but also not too bad to ignore the game. Its good for what it is trying to do, but could use some improvements to lighting.

There is also a lot of content already, which, if the gameplay wouldn't be so crap, could raise the raiting I give the game.

The bad:
"grind, grind, grind - but not the good kind"
The game design overall. Holy crap, this is probably the worst gamedesign I ever saw. Not only do you need to grind and unlock the most basic things, you will keep needing to unlock them again and again. You actually need items in your inventory and actionbar (yes, this game has an actionbar but is no MMORPG) to do the most basic stuff. Want to slap your sister on the ass? Need an item for it. Want to talk to your mother about stuff? Need an item for it.
There are some permanent items to unlock, but they are too spare to even be considered a solution to this self-made problem.

The ugly:
The UI is probably the worst I ever saw in any of the games I played. Like, Paint-level bad. Not only is it highly infuriatingly designed, but also is it a struggle to navigate through it. There is no visual line, everything seems like someone with 2 hours experience in HTML tried to setup a UI for a website. Simply horrible.

the mechanics of this game are too complicated to be able to enjoy it and is impossible to get any scene without the walkthrough. Played the game for like 2 hours and got frustraded and just unistaled the game, is sad because the game looks nice, as far as i see at least and has a good history

Very bad. Not only does the game have a disgusting interface, there are no normal settings, but in general, nothing is clear. All you need to do is grind. Grinding moving from room to room would not seem difficult, but the transition process, on my PC, takes from 7-10 seconds. Also, every action in the game you will need to wait while looking at the black screen. It's like the game loads all the locations again every time. Although the girls look cute and the game has decent art, you will not see the sex scene very soon.
Disgusting (do not recommend)

As the super -powered game is among my favorites. When I find out that its creator also did this game I decided to play it with joy ...... But I fear that the result could not be more disappointing .... If I had to describe the game it would be: "Bored." The game is squeeze slowly, and revolves around a quite tedious "conversations" mechanics, with a list of options to be executed very limited, because even to eat an apple you have to unlock the action, after hours of conversations and "healthy" ".... in the end you spend the game cleaning non -stop ... after 3 days "playing" (rather repeat the same things again and again). Unlock 2 things 1_ The power to iron clothes. 2- A gym in which there is nothing, or anything happens ... With those large amounts of stimuli for the player, such as not wanting to continue playing ........

I would give this game 4 or 5 stars if the developer didn't choose such an awful engine for a grindy game. I don't mind the grind if it's interesting, but having those long load times whenever you switch to a room is just killing me.

WORST GAME EVER !!

Its the fucking ''definition of insanity''

Grind till U die over and over and over same fucking thing again and again...

Just why ??

Porn games should be quick decision - not blue balls and losing focus.

I understand its a pity xcuse from dev to prolong gameplay (or rather said - MASK LACK OF CONTENT) , and make updates somehow usable but c'mon...

Tho models looks nice and story is kind a ok (nothing new that we didnt seen 1000 times around...) but overall I can rate this crap max 2 stars. But I wont.

Edit 3: for Version 0.10.02
I'm glad I gave this a 3rd try. MASSIVE QoL improvements and no more slow load times between screens. Still some bugs and I still play with the mod (which actually helps me circumvent those bugs) but I'm actually looking forward to the upcoming changes/additions for the next update.

It's definitely getting good. I'm just still hesitant to give it a 5.
- There are times where it feels a little imbalanced concerning Becky since she has a lot of ATs but not a lot of opportunities to interact. Then there's the parties which seem like a separate category on its own but only available on Fridays but there are other events that don't concern that cause a scheduling conflict.
- A lot of aspects are also a work-in-progress, which I understand but it does make me wonder whether we'll ever be able to see those things.
- Some more hints would be a good thing. There are just things that would take way too much trial-and-error if it wasn't for a few users having the answers. It's just that I can't expect them to be able to field all the questions. One example being that you can only initiate a scene with Diane on certain days. I honestly would've just assumed it was a bug and given up if it wasn't for the thread because the wiki doesn't say anything about that.
-On that note. While I understand bugs will occur in a game this complex, it's made me more inclined to assume something not happening is a bug rather than another specific condition not being fulfilled. Of course, more hints would erase any doubt or just a better central guide (the second option obviously not something the dev should have to deal with)

But it's reached the point where I'm willing to try and map out a guide for myself so I don't have to keep going and forth from the thread/work-in-progress wiki/incomplete walkthrough. I'm holding back for now but I'm optimistic the next few updates will make up for my concerns. From what it looks like, the dev took a little more time on this update but it feels like he really made a big breakthrough with it as well. That really gives me some faith in his ability and consistency since I usually see devs dick around for a while then plop out something that doesn't explain the time taken.

My advice to first-time players would be to use the mod. You'll be able to see what the game has to offer and then maybe be more inclined to start over and play more aligned to how it was intended be played.
Edit 2:
So I came back to this game after initially playing version 7. I think I have a better idea of the dev's intentions for this to be a time/resource management game and why there are certain limitations added.

However, there are still aspects of the game that would make it a lot less tedious but not detract from the theme. It's the parts of the game that don't seem "grindy" because of the gameplay but because of lack of good game design.
- An in-game gallery: (I get why it's not possible now)
- Content hints: You (as a player) put all that time and strategizing into getting a character to a specific archetype while juggling your inventory limit, how to pass the time without adding useless topics, influencing other characters, increasing skills you'll need or farming topics you'll need for archetypes later on but you end up missing scenes because you didn't think to do the correct combination of things at the correct time and at the correct location.
- Archetype transformation hints: Could definitely be more thorough. At this point, enough people have played the game to know about the certain hidden triggers. Ex. You need to have sex with Charli but not come then go wash up. or something like you need a topic with this certain tag. These things just come straight out of left field and just seem intentionally obtuse rather than encouraging exploration/experimentation. If you need people to go back and forth from this thread and the game, then there's a problem.
- Skip time function: There's no efficient and easy way to do this. You can already sleep an unlimited amount of times. So I don't really see how implementing "skip 1 hour" and "skip 1 day" buttons would hamper the "time management" aspect of the game. Especially when you're already pretty much set up with the perfect set of topics to just get into a rhythm.
- Streamlined UI: Way too many buttons and menus. I get that if there weren't submenus, the interface would be incredibly cluttered but almost every action requires a second (or more) click. What if certain objects were just clickable? Things like the wardrobe can only be accessed in the room anyway. Which would free up space for "skills", "save/load" and "characters". Also, the fact that you need to press "continue" for the dialogue when every other game just lets you click anywhere to continue. I don't think it's a Unity thing.
- Memory leak: I regularly need to restart the game because lags increase from 1 second to 5 or more seconds which makes the game feel even slower. It seems like steps have been taken to try and solve it but it still remains a problem. It might just be a natural result due to how many moving parts there are in the game.

I've come to understand why the gameplay mechanics have to be that way and it's a fun idea but it's everything else about it that just makes the game feel 10x slower than it should be. I wanted to change my review because I recognize the dev is listening to feedback and is actively trying to make those QoL changes but in its current state, I can only give it a 3 out of 5. Plus the game's been around since 2019 so ...

It's unique a game. For good reasons but also for all the wrong reasons. I'm not a dev but I'm sure it's not easy at all. I'm sure the dev is pretty smart for being able to implement all this but at the same time I've seen other Unity games that have covered these things mentioned above in their overall game design for a smoother player experience.

Excellent game that actually has sandbox gameplay rather than being a VN that pretends to be a sandbox game.

The game does have a significant amount of grind, but once you do get past the initial grind there is plenty of content waiting for you. I don't think there is much hope the grind will be reduced, but that isn't enough for me take any points from the games score since it is such a unique experience.

You know all these sandbox H-games devolve into a loop where you just skip days until you get the interaction you need to make the number you want go up. But having to grind out your stats, grind out your topics-the process of which might not even give you the topics you need-, then swap your topic bar-which can only be done in two rooms of the house-, and wait for one of the designated one-to-four hours of 24 that you can even talk to them, with NO FLAVOR TEXT, is pretty egregious.

Micromanaging conversations is a good idea and I like the progression of their personalities, but man it's not executed well.

This is a Night City Productions game in both good and especially bad. The actual content of the game is interesting and entertaining, but to progress through it you need to go through extreme grindfest. I cannot with good conscience recommend playing any NCP games without cheat mods that help cut the grind from extremely time consuming to very time consuming.

In a nutshell the game is about changing the characters around you by manipulating their interests. Each character has 3 traits (each consisting of 2 topics) they don't like and 3 traits they like. To change a character from one archtype to another you need to add specific two new secondary traits to them and then find the interaction to trigger the archtype transformation.

The issue is that to add new traits, the character needs to be interested in the topics of the trait, meaning they need 100% interest in it. Beyond random interactions during the day the main way to add interest is to have a successful discussion with them. This means finding discussion topics (generated by pretty much everything you do in the game - clean your room to generate topic about Chores and Cleaning for example) and mixing in the discussion topic with two others they already like.

The problem is two-fold: you first need to get the topics... And early on each discussion may add 4-5% of interest in that topic. Meaning you need to interact 20-25 times, consuming 60-75 topics. Every NPC also usually only has 2 chances per day to discuss with them.

Things get a bit easier as you play the game and get more skills which increase interest gain in topics related to them and unlock permanent topics that are refreshed each time you visit your room and each discussion is guaranteed to generate a new topic... But this leads to more annoying busy work as you have limited amount of topics you can have at a time and you need to constantly remove old topics to make room for new ones.

It also speaks volumes that one of the features the cheat mod adds is an option to speed up transition times. This seems to include save/load times. It speaks volumes that I keep that option on 99% of the time I've played this game, only turning it off when I actually get short burst of new content rather than watching the same discussion animations with the same character for 1000th time.

So in short: The actual content is good fun, but I can't really say the effort required to see it is worth the effort for most people.

Edit:

In case by some miracle the developer reads this, my recommendations to polish the game - beyond heavily cutting down the grind by at least doubling interest gains - would be:

- If the NPC has locked a door, show the lock icon in their location. This is already done with Diane with one of her ATs, which also tells why it is locked.
- The need to go to the PCs room to restock topics is annoying extra task. The party is the only scene in the entire game where there is any reason for this mechanic to exist. Just restrict restocking for those specific scenes. I can understand items needing to be fetched from the rooms, but for topics it makes no sense.
- The topic cap is way, way too low. Since some topics are so much harder to get than others, the game incentivices hoarding hard to get topics. This also means you need to constantly clean up less desirable topics like the one you get from cleaning.

As much as people say otherwise, this is a porn game that takes forever to get to any actual porn.

The main gameplay loop is so boring, most people will be bored in 6 hours. The grind is purposefully inflated to give a sense of progression which eventually leads to mediocre sex scenes. The XP requirements should be cut in half and there should be more interactivity with the world itself. Better and/or more interesting mechanics and maybe a complete overhaul to the conversation system.

If you're not prepared to waste a vast amount of your likely limited free-time consuming this huge nothing-burger for little reward, I'd give this a skip.

Holy jesus that is a grindfest. To give you an idea - playing with a cheat mod is a grindfest, I can't imagine how this plays without it.

Have you ever wanted to micromanage communication with npcs? Now you can! Certain dialog topics are expendable resources that you need to refill by doing N repetitions of a certain task. Also there is a cap - you can only have a max of 50 of them. Why? Cause fuck you that's why.

All in all it's a very detailed grinding sim, with stats, over 40 skills, money and more to grind till you die. Any sexual content is spread so thinly it wont distract you from grinding away