maladroit

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Okay it's June 2024 and I'm revisiting this now on an Apple Silicon M2 Macbook. A while ago I posted some notes on getting the BepInEx cheat mod to work on Mac. Probably no one else cares enough to try to make this work on an M2 Mac but because I'm an idiot with nothing better to do, here's some notes on what I did to get it running. (The short complicated version is, you have to trick BepInEx into running in x64 mode with Rosetta. If you don't know what that means, that's fine, I don't either, but the steps below should work.)

0. Before you start, get the 0.11.00 game version. Launch it and clear the quarantine flag like you normally do for Mac apps (i.e., hold Option, right click, choose Open). Once you've verified it's working, exit the game, put it in a folder somewhere if it's not already, and continue the steps below.

1. grab the latest BepInEx for MacOS x64 from .
2. extract those files into the 0.11.00 Loser.app folder. That should give you a BepInEx folder and a couple other files including one called run_bepinex.sh.
3. open run_bepinex.sh in a text editor and make the following edits:
3a. update line 15 to point at your Loser.app, it should look about like this:
Code:
     executable_name="Loser_v0.11.00_MacOS.app"
3b. update line 273, the last line, to add a '#', so it looks like this:
Code:
     # exec "$executable_path" $rest_args
3c. go and grab that paragraph of code, the one that starts with current_path=$(pwd), and paste it into the bottom of your bepinex.sh file, right below the line you just edited
4. save the bepinex.sh file
5. open a Terminal window, navigate to the Loser folder, and make the script executable like this:
Code:
     chmod +x run_bepinex.sh
6. run the script from the Terminal like this:
Code:
     sh run_bepinex.sh
This should launch the game. You can immediately exit once you verify it launches, we're not quite done yet. (If it doesn't launch, something has gone wrong and I'm not sure what to tell you, sorry.)
7. grab the latest cheat mod from the bottom of this post. Unarchive it somewhere temporary, you only need one file from it.
8. find the LoserCheatMod.dll in the LoserCheatMod/BepInEx/plugins folder and copy it into your own Loser/BepInEx/plugins folder. You can delete the rest of the downloaded cheat mod files once you've done this.
9. launch the game again from the Terminal with sh run_bepinex.sh.

At this point you should be set. Once you've loaded a game or started a new one and gone through the intro, you should see 'Press X to open cheatmod' in the upper left of the game window, and pressing X should indeed open the cheatmod for you. You can find more info on using the cheatmod in that post linked above (step 7).
 

DragonFire

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Since the update it seems like the party on Friday night is bugged. I kept doing activities and it showed time was passing for each one, but the party never ended - usually it ends about midnight I think, but this time, it seemed to have some sort of infinite time loop - time just kept passing all through Saturday with no end to the party.
I have the same thing.. I get a party end where MC and Girls go home, but afterwards they are all back at the party with no end time.

Install the Cheat Mod for game version 11, not the one from OP as that's still 10.. Updated 11 version has been linked many times during the past days, scroll back to it.

In said mod, is a function for MC to go to his room, this will end the party loop.

The silver lining about the party bug, as mod, is.. you can Transform Jay in one party instead of 3.. as the mod also makes it possible to turn back the clock without deleting progress already done.

However bugs are frustrating and should be fixed without the need of an external mod, am sure Baal will get around to that.
 
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Pr0GamerJohnny

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I have the same thing.. I get a party end where MC and Girls go home, but afterwards they are all back at the party with no end time.

Install the Cheat Mod for game version 11, not the one from OP as that's still 10.. Updated 11 version has been linked many times during the past days, scroll back to it.

In said mod, is a function for MC to go to his room, this will end the party loop.

The silver lining about the party bug, as mod, is.. you can Transform Jay in one party instead of 3.. as the mod also makes it possible to turn back the clock without deleting progress already done.

However bugs are frustrating and should be fixed without the need of an external mod, am sure Baal will get around to that.
Just to be clear, the bug regarding party will occur even without the presence of any cheat or mod program right?
 
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Curtwine

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I have the same thing.. I get a party end where MC and Girls go home, but afterwards they are all back at the party with no end time.

Install the Cheat Mod for game version 11, not the one from OP as that's still 10.. Updated 11 version has been linked many times during the past days, scroll back to it.

In said mod, is a function for MC to go to his room, this will end the party loop.

The silver lining about the party bug, as mod, is.. you can Transform Jay in one party instead of 3.. as the mod also makes it possible to turn back the clock without deleting progress already done.

However bugs are frustrating and should be fixed without the need of an external mod, am sure Baal will get around to that.

Thanks for the info!
 

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I'm a noob in C# but I modified your mod to try something. I didn't change anything in your code (and reused your Mods class) but instead of modifying the assembly.dll, I used and to inject code at game launch. This way, the mod will be much more compatible with future versions because no original code will be changed.

The whole content of the CheatMod.zip must be unzip where Loser.exe is. Maybe it won't work with other OS than Windows.

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!!! 7493349837893 updated the mod to 0.10.00 here !!!

Others links:
32-bit CheatMod
64-bit CheatMod

Cheatmod + AutoTranslator
By default, the Cheatmod doesn't work with AutoTranslator so I made a version which merge both of them.

The installation is the same as for the classic CheatMod. Unzip the content of the zip in the main Loser folder (where Loser.exe is located). If you already used an AutoTranslator previously, you need to install my merged version on a fresh new install of Loser.

1/ Configure your language
a) Open the file BepInEx/config/AutoTranslatorConfig.ini
b) Change the line:

With your own language. The list of usable language code seems to be:
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(Don't ask me what is what, I didn't make it... I don't know)

2/ (optional) Preload translation texts
The translation can take some time as it's generated on the fly. So if you already used a similar tool previously, you can reuse your old translated file.
a) Find your old file named _AutoGeneratedTranslations.txt
b) Run once Loser
c) Copy your old file to the new Loser installl in <Loser folder>/BepInEx/Translation/<Language>/Text

Note you can access AutoTranslator preferences by pressing Alt + 0 ingame.

64-bit CheatMod + Autotranslator
I don't have a 32-bit version for the merged version :confused:

!!! KNOWN BUGS !!!
1/ It doesn't work on Mac
2/ It doesn't work if there are special or accented characters in directory name. For example, if you use:
C:\My pörn games\Loser_v0.09.02_PC64x (accented character: ö)

You'll have to remove or change this character to make it work
C:\My porn games\Loser_v0.09.02_PC64x
(Thx RadaSTL for the feedback)


Note: You don't need the Harmony.zip to use the mod. I just added it if someone wants to see the code.
Will this work for the .11 update or do we need to wait for it to be updated too? I have no problem waiting, just want to make sure. Thanks!
 

spamblah

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Ok after further review, we need a hotkey bar for each character. This would make it better.

Or better yet, just remove the need to arrange the hotkey bar set up all together, cause there is no real need to have a pre arranged conversation topic. Just let us use anything that we've acquired. Maybe add some sorting during mini-game so we can find specific topics faster.
 
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DragonFire

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Just to be clear, the bug regarding party will occur even without the presence of any cheat or mod program right?
You'll have to ask those who reported the bug, because I installed the cheat mod as soon as I saw it updated to game version 11.
Their reports and replies didn't indicate if they had the mod installed or not, however since the updated mod is not in the OP and so many are asking for Mod update, odds are they didn't have it installed when running into the party loop bug.

It's easy to test though, if still having the zipped game in "Downloads" and a save just before going to dinner a Friday (with enough homeworks done to trigger party) ;)
 

DragonFire

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Will this work for the .11 update or do we need to wait for it to be updated too? I have no problem waiting, just want to make sure. Thanks!
How about back tracking or do a search? ;)

Generally speaking, older mods won't work with never game versions, especially if the new game version have changed something function wise.

There is an updated cheat mod for game version 11, it just haven't been linked in the OP, a forum Admin would have to do that I guess?

For an Updated Mod 11, go here:
https://f95zone.to/threads/loser-v0-11-00-night-city-productions.34576/post-12177551
 

lhucio

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The grind for submission topic is pretty bad, the only way i found to raise it is with pegging porn, i didn't calculate it, but probably i had to farm more than 50 times (watching a porn that i dislike btw.) I think another source of submission topic is necessary
 

allanl9020142

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Does one of these lock a path? The walkthrough guide is outdated.

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Check the wiki. If you just google "night city productions wiki" it should be the first result. Then just go to the Loser pages.

But to save you some trouble now, I'm pretty sure Immediagram Mother is a dead-end for now.

I was actually writing a personal guide for myself but never got around to finishing it because well ... life but yea if I'll post it if I ever finish it. Although it's going to be strictly tailored to how I play the game so don't know how much help it's going to be.

As an aside:
I'm glad you're still giving this one a try. It's definitely got some kinks to work out and progress seems to take a while but the QoL improvements come with each update. The grind is kind of intentional because of the game design. You're more or less supposed to be doing many interactions/conversations to farm topics and exp but it definitely gets pretty easy at one point. One Diane AT only took me less than one in-game week because of all the boosts you get from maxing out certain things. I don't mind the grind as long as there are QoL features to make things smoother.

Still, it goes against the spirit of things but I play with the cheat mod. It's for the unlimited transient topic inventory and like others have pointed out before it allows you to "teleport" back to your room if you're stuck at the party or something. Don't use the cheat mod for anything else because I want to progress as naturally as possible. It's just that juggling which topics to burn and which to keep while working on changing one character and keeping in mind what character comes next is too much for me. It'd take even longer to play the game to completion if I did that and I just can't spare the time.

I used to hate the game but the one or two past updates had QoL improvements that made me come around to it and I believe more will be coming. It's definitely going to a very gradual process but I'm okay to wait. It takes me months to play from start to finish anyway (I don't have a lot of free time these days). I also treat this game as a way to take a break from all the VNs when the writers start making the MC into even more of a little bitch or the story just starts getting mid.

There are very few games like this and this one also has a pretty fantastic idea that separates it from the rest. It's just, like you said, the "gameflow" that needs to catch up. The dev's smart but it's a huge workload for just one person. But it's just too good of a game idea to give up on for me at least. So I'm okay to wait. It's not like most VNs these days that just get more disappointing each update while also taking longer and longer to update. Instead of "reading a story with some choices" it really feels like "Finally, something to do". Actually feels like a game with choices rather than a railroad you can't get off of.
 
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Pr0GamerJohnny

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Check the wiki. If you just google "night city productions wiki" it should be the first result. Then just go to the Loser pages.

But to save you some trouble now, I'm pretty sure Immediagram Mother is a dead-end for now.

I was actually writing a personal guide for myself but never got around to finishing it because well ... life but yea if I'll post it if I ever finish it. Although it's going to be strictly tailored to how I play the game so don't know how much help it's going to be.
I have it open now, and none of this seems to be applicable to the current version:

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(at least not cross referenced with https://attachments.f95zone.to/2021/04/1145289_Archetype_Cheatsheet.pdf )
 

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I have it open now, and none of this seems to be applicable to the current version:

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(at least not cross referenced with https://attachments.f95zone.to/2021/04/1145289_Archetype_Cheatsheet.pdf )
Yea ... it's not the most complete one-stop shop for the game. It seems to just pick up where the old guide left it. I'm not 100% sure but I think you can use the old guide up until it stopped being updated and then pick back up using the wiki.

If I have some time during the next few days I'll just try to compile what I had for the last version of the game and post it. Although, I don't think I got to the very newest archetypes from the last update for Becky and Diane. Other than those two, everyone else should be written down. Let me know what you need so I can just pick and choose from what I wrote.

Not sure if the wiki will have the newest archetypes for this version but there's usually one or two people in the thread who can answer all the questions. Honestly, it's MikeyBoy and EmperorGus that really indirectly helped when it came to small details even the wiki didn't have. Problem is that I don't want to switch back and forth from the game and the thread to get answers I'm looking for. Which is why I'm writing my own guide.
 

allanl9020142

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To install: extract where Loser.exe is located.
Press X to open it in-game. (C is now a shortcut for something else in-game)

Shortcuts can be edited in mod config.

I tweaked some things from the original mod for better use according to my personal preferences:
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The mod now has a config file. It remembers the toggles and setting you used, and also, you can edit hotkeys directly in file, or use a tool like


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Tested only in 64 Bit game version.

Download for v0.11.00 (updated 27.06.2024)
You're a hero for updating that so quick. If I could like your post twice, I would.
 
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