VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 2] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[anongamer1983]

When MC comes back she gives him this insane blowjob, right?

I always attributed it to her emotional distress + waponized sex/ wanting him.

But now we know she was blitzed....so does K make her a slut?

So, my interpretation of the events is this. Ketamine allows Lacey to handle more than she typically would in sex (MC mentions being "Inside" Lacey, not just her throat. We already know that she has an oral fixation, so I don't really think that Lacey became more "slutty" per se, but rather able to handle more than she usually would.

So that comes to the question of the Evan and Jared thing, and I think there's an easy answer. Her jealousy kink. I think that the after effects of the Ketamine made it so that she wasn't really thinking of how it'd hurt MC. All she could focus on was making MC jealous. After all, she made it seem like she contacted Evan and Jared after she got out of the shower (we don't know if she actually did or not, she did lie about Will).

EDIT: It's also possible she took more that morning and still considers it the "same" time. However, mentioning that she still has "fear and sadness" in her eyes during the blowjob makes me think that she wasn't completely out of it, that she was just out of it enough to ignore the potential consequences for feeding her jealousy kink

 

[Sayora]

If she wanted to rip the bandage, she could have said. Look MC she fucked a lot of dudes in college, here are a couple of photos.

Instead she waves a tale specifically to paint Lacey in the worst way, and lets him feast on these hurtfull thoughs for months. (the sooner MC found out the truth, my ass) Thats neither a slow reveal nor ripping the bandage. Its torture for the MC. And we know the backstory. What happened to her, as much as she hates males, she is also hurting her own friend. And lets not forget, she just had a change of heart about how the MC was an okay guy that she liked. You know, she even mentions "shortest friendship" and all that.


Agreed she could have sit down with both and forced Lacey to come clean.


I agree that the ending will have a good ending undertone. But i dont see how Lacey going missing could be considered a good ending for the MC (For the MC, not for the players.) Without her there is no good ending.

Let's call it shock therapy. If you try to slowly and gently explain to a person the truth that he does not want to accept, his mind will come up with hundreds of ways to justify and not accept the truth. Which is what we actually saw when Mia's method did not work.


Once Lacey told an interesting story about a remora fish and a great white shark.
Only in this story it wasn't a remora fish but a heavy rusty anchor that got caught on the shark's gills. The shark likes this anchor, it's so huge and heavy and no other shark has such an anchor, but it inexorably pulls the shark down into the abyss and the longer the shark tries to hold on to it, the less strength it has left.

By removing the anchor we will free the shark, yes it will be sad but it will no longer be pulled into the abyss.

 

[Maviarab]

Ketamine is weird tho, I can tell that after a "good night" of use you can feel "weird" even the day after.
From what I read just now on the net, the aftereffects can stay with you for more than 24 hours.

"While the primary psychoactive effects subside within an hour, residual psychological effects such as cognitive and perceptual changes can persist for hours to days."

said something similiar and had two theories:
She either took it at night, and the next morning are mood swings and withdrawal symptoms and/or something to do with this “other side” (i know that is starting to sound like a cop out for anything we can’t explain so far)
Or she took it in the morning, after the raging deepthroat session, while MC was getting ready for work, then got in the shower. The only thing i don’t know is why she would take it after being happy that the MC was back, except for the line “she is an addict”

Apparently long term use in large quantities can lead to permanent psychosis in people with pre-disposition. And those psychotic episodes reduce natural dopamine levels. It is well know that if for whatever reason a person has reduced dopamine levels, they would start engaging in very risky and impulsive behavior. Compulsive sexual behavior is among those.

When MC comes back she gives him this insane blowjob, right?

I always attributed it to her emotional distress + waponized sex/ wanting him.

But now we know she was blitzed....so does K make her a slut?

DIT: It's also possible she took more that morning and still considers it the "same" time. However, mentioning that she still has "fear and sadness" in her eyes during the blowjob makes me think that she wasn't completely out of it, that she was just out of it enough to ignore the potential consequences for feeding her jealousy kink

Which is all well and good, you're almost gaslighting yourselves here btw guys hahaha. So let's take allllllll thaaaaaat at face value.

Explain to me how she was perfectly fine a couple hours after raping Bastion's cock for an hour?

Please?

One is not the same as the other. The two scenes, are completely different from each other, and if we go with the 'left over k' theory....she took faaaaaaarrrrr more with Bastion than she did at home. Surely her conversation with Mia would have been utter jumbled garbage?

So which is it...I'm going to ask again, never mind coming up with shit or 'moving on from it'.....is she perfectly coherant after inhaling a truckload and drinking.....or is she still blitzed the very next morning? (though I do perhaps like the she took it while he was in the shower idea).

I still think there's more to it....and maybe she was lying about not knowing a dealer.....it came from somwhere and I'm not buying her reasons for how/where it came from. You're really trying to tell me she found so much in her old 'sweatshirt' (which I'm not convinces is 100% NOT the hoodie) for multiple uses when she down/needs it?

She a lying addict remember....but that's an aside. Her after Bastion (an hour or two tops) is a very different person to her after taking it at home (lesser amount after hours being asleep). I'm not buying the 'it works like that shit'...sorry. Maybe it only works how it needs to work to move the story on perhaps eh? Only last for an hour when she needs to party with Jared (with the corresponding memory use...remember, she found grams upn grams in that old shiret lol) or the MC nipped out for bagels and coffee....or last a whole night and the next morning when she needs to make the MC feel bad about the shit she caused?

Again, maybe it's just utterly shit writing as I've said before, if it makes no sense, it makes no sense and no amount of discussion will ever make something that is nonsensical...make sense.

I still don't believe the 'sweater' incident is when Barty interviewd her. either Far too many perfect pieces of coincidence would have needed to line up perfectly. That was deliberately set up and for me, a 4th use (voluntarily or otherwise). But hey, she apparently found pounds of the shit in the old sweater...way her memory is, who knows how many times she hit up and just completely forgotten about it.



Anyway, done for a while...so many damn holes in this supposed clever story you could float the damn iceberg that sank the Titanic through them.

 

[Diosvincenccio]

Let's call it shock therapy. If you try to slowly and gently explain to a person the truth that he does not want to accept, his mind will come up with hundreds of ways to justify and not accept the truth. Which is what we actually saw when Mia's method did not work.


Once Lacey told an interesting story about a remora fish and a great white shark.
Only in this story it wasn't a remora fish but a heavy rusty anchor that got caught on the shark's gills. The shark likes this anchor, it's so huge and heavy and no other shark has such an anchor, but it inexorably pulls the shark down into the abyss and the longer the shark tries to hold on to it, the less strength it has left.

By removing the anchor we will free the shark, yes it will be sad but it will no longer be pulled into the abyss.

What method didnt work? Or what part didnt work? The fact that the MC stayed with Lacey?

MC did accept what Mia showed him, because, well it came with a fucking documentary (pun intended). MC never denied the authenticity of the photos. Only the story about them, and even that was eventually believed, and revealed that altrough embelished, the story was somewhat true.

Shock therapy is a quick hard truth to swallow. The example that i told you. She fucked a lot of people, heres a couple of photos. It wasnt necessary to go on extreme details of how she was campus bycicle. Nor it was necessary to stend the lenght in time letting him obsess over what she did. To the point that he finds both Mia and Lacey disgusting.

She could have sit at the table with both of them and told Lacey "either you talk or i do, and i know all the juicy details." And she could have done that even before the wedding. Before would have been wonderfull you know, so he dosent marry a stranger dressing as "his Lacey", and Mia wouldnt lose her sextoy.

On the other side, what are you going on the "the shark likes this anchor"? MC despises what she did in college, he never like that version of her, or what it represents. The remora works perfectly as an analogy, and even foreshadows the "vampire" in her. If you want to change it into an anchor because she drags him down, thats fine. But dont say it like he goes showing off himself and swagging her to others, or finds her attitude or what she did as a good thing, as the comment "the shark likes this and no other shark has such anchor" suggests.

And yes removing the anchor/remora sets the MC free, but remember he wants the remora Lacey by his side. Without her, he is an empty shell. Damned if i do, damned if i dont situation.

 

[AL.d]

Which is all well and good, you're almost gaslighting yourselves here btw guys hahaha. So let's take allllllll thaaaaaat at face value.

Explain to me how she was perfectly fine a couple hours after raping Bastion's cock for an hour?

Please?

One is not the same as the other. The two scenes, are completely different from each other, and if we go with the 'left over k' theory....she took faaaaaaarrrrr more with Bastion than she did at home. Surely her conversation with Mia would have been utter jumbled garbage?

So which is it...I'm going to ask again, never mind coming up with shit or 'moving on from it'.....is she perfectly coherant after inhaling a truckload and drinking.....or is she still blitzed the very next morning? (though I do perhaps like the she took it while he was in the shower idea).

I still think there's more to it....and maybe she was lying about not knowing a dealer.....it came from somwhere and I'm not buying her reasons for how/where it came from. You're really trying to tell me she found so much in her old 'sweatshirt' (which I'm not convinces is 100% NOT the hoodie) for multiple uses when she down/needs it?

She a lying addict remember....but that's an aside. Her after Bastion (an hour or two tops) is a very different person to her after taking it at home (lesser amount after hours being asleep). I'm not buying the 'it works like that shit'...sorry. Maybe it only works how it needs to work to move the story on perhaps eh? Only last for an hour when she needs to party with Jared (with the corresponding memory use...remember, she found grams upn grams in that old shiret lol) or the MC nipped out for bagels and coffee....or last a whole night and the next morning when she needs to make the MC feel bad about the shit she caused?

Again, maybe it's just utterly shit writing as I've said before, if it makes no sense, it makes no sense and no amount of discussion will ever make something that is nonsensical...make sense.

I still don't believe the 'sweater' incident is when Barty interviewd her. either Far too many perfect pieces of coincidence would have needed to line up perfectly. That was deliberately set up and for me, a 4th use (voluntarily or otherwise). But hey, she apparently found pounds of the shit in the old sweater...way her memory is, who knows how many times she hit up and just completely forgotten about it.



Anyway, done for a while...so many damn holes in this supposed clever story you could float the damn iceberg that sank the Titanic through them.

To clarify, my theory wasn't that it was some leftover K effect. It was that she got some permanent psychosis from overusing while already unstable in college. And now she may be having episodes independent of the drug and its duration. Practically the other side being uber bitch Lacey coming out to play.

But I admit it's reaching too much, I doubt dev has gone that deep. And while being a compulsive slut checks out, psychosis also has some sort of delusion/hallucination thing going on. Lacey is very coherent in those events. Just doesn't give a fuck. No delusions.

So it's either dev not caring for accurate drug duration, or Lacey bullshiting as usual and using it as an excuse to do things she wants to do.

That scene is all kinds of fucked anyway. The other two are very obviously lying through their teeth about the practical joke. Which means they both knew Lacey has been using behind his back. Mia starts the gaslighting but as always, it's Anna who plays the fool like a fiddle and eventually sends him away. And then we see her flipping out about relatively minor shit like meeting Lorenzo, while she's been hiding his wife doing drugs behind his back. It's like all characters are bipolar in that group.

 

[DeviantFun]

Which is all well and good, you're almost gaslighting yourselves here btw guys hahaha. So let's take allllllll thaaaaaat at face value.

Explain to me how she was perfectly fine a couple hours after raping Bastion's cock for an hour?

Please?

One is not the same as the other. The two scenes, are completely different from each other, and if we go with the 'left over k' theory....she took faaaaaaarrrrr more with Bastion than she did at home. Surely her conversation with Mia would have been utter jumbled garbage?

So which is it...I'm going to ask again, never mind coming up with shit or 'moving on from it'.....is she perfectly coherant after inhaling a truckload and drinking.....or is she still blitzed the very next morning? (though I do perhaps like the she took it while he was in the shower idea).

I still think there's more to it....and maybe she was lying about not knowing a dealer.....it came from somwhere and I'm not buying her reasons for how/where it came from. You're really trying to tell me she found so much in her old 'sweatshirt' (which I'm not convinces is 100% NOT the hoodie) for multiple uses when she down/needs it?

She a lying addict remember....but that's an aside. Her after Bastion (an hour or two tops) is a very different person to her after taking it at home (lesser amount after hours being asleep). I'm not buying the 'it works like that shit'...sorry. Maybe it only works how it needs to work to move the story on perhaps eh? Only last for an hour when she needs to party with Jared (with the corresponding memory use...remember, she found grams upn grams in that old shiret lol) or the MC nipped out for bagels and coffee....or last a whole night and the next morning when she needs to make the MC feel bad about the shit she caused?

Again, maybe it's just utterly shit writing as I've said before, if it makes no sense, it makes no sense and no amount of discussion will ever make something that is nonsensical...make sense.

I still don't believe the 'sweater' incident is when Barty interviewd her. either Far too many perfect pieces of coincidence would have needed to line up perfectly. That was deliberately set up and for me, a 4th use (voluntarily or otherwise). But hey, she apparently found pounds of the shit in the old sweater...way her memory is, who knows how many times she hit up and just completely forgotten about it.



Anyway, done for a while...so many damn holes in this supposed clever story you could float the damn iceberg that sank the Titanic through them.

I will just say this: drug effects are not always the same, sometimes it could go in a way sometimes in another.

It depends on your body, the quality of the substance, the quantity etc.

there have been times where when taking something my pals would be out there and I would be almost sober.

So we can't say "oh she took X so she should be X and Y".

I think the author does a good job in putting effects of K that are maybe uncommon but true.
And even if they are just convienient to the story I am fine with it.

One of the effects of long term use ok K involved your kidneys being fucked up and having bad bladder control, who cares if that is not in the story right now (no matter how much fun it would be for me if Lacey pissed her pants once in a while).

That scene is all kinds of fucked anyway. The other two are very obviously lying through their teeth about the practical joke. Which means they both knew Lacey has been using behind his back. Mia starts the gaslighting but as always, it's Anna who plays the fool like a fiddle and eventually sends him away. And then we see her flipping out about relatively minor shit like meeting Lorenzo, while she's been hiding his wife doing drugs behind his back. It's like all characters are bipolar in that group.

You don't know how stupid I think that scene is.

"let me say goodbye to my wife that I am having and argument with"
" no no no just go away you are making us late to whatever the fuck"
"oh ok *insert sadmemeface*"

Aside from the obvious lies.
I had a ahell of a time rewriting all that.

 

[Chaoticjustice]

I will just say this: drug effects are not always the same, sometimes it could go in a way sometimes in another.

It depends on your body, the quality of the substance, the quantity etc.

there have been times where when taking something my pals would be out there and I would be almost sober.

So we can't say "oh she took X so she should be X and Y".

I think the author does a good job in putting effects of K that are maybe uncommon but true.
And even if they are just convienient to the story I am fine with it.

One of the effects of long term use ok K involved your kidneys being fucked up and having bad bladder control, who cares if that is not in the story right now (no matter how much fun it would be for me if Lacey pissed her pants once in a while).

Watersports unlocked?

If you know you know - also I couldn't be bothered doing the Photoshop on it

 

[AL.d]

I will just say this: drug effects are not always the same, sometimes it could go in a way sometimes in another.

It depends on your body, the quality of the substance, the quantity etc.

there have been times where when taking something my pals would be out there and I would be almost sober.

So we can't say "oh she took X so she should be X and Y".

I think the author does a good job in putting effects of K that are maybe uncommon but true.
And even if they are just convienient to the story I am fine with it.

One of the effects of long term use ok K involved your kidneys being fucked up and having bad bladder control, who cares if that is not in the story right now (no matter how much fun it would be for me if Lacey pissed her pants once in a while).



You don't know how stupid I think that scene is.

"let me say goodbye to my wife that I am having and argument with"
" no no no just go away you are making us late to whatever the fuck"
"oh ok *insert sadmemeface*"

Aside from the obvious lies.
I had a ahell of a time rewriting all that.

They ran damage control. Knew she would have made it much worse if he went back to her. And that giant pussy just accepted that, in his own house. I doubt they even went anywhere afterwards. Lacey was so unhinged that they'd have to leash her to not go and "have fun" with any boys she saw.

That's my main issue with how he is written. He just goes with the flow no matter what. And while with Lacey it makes sense, having being conditioned to follow her like a pup since childhood, it doesn't with anyone else. Anna practically treats him like a child all the time and he never reacts to it.

 

[DeviantFun]

They ran damage control. Knew she would have made it much worse if he went back to her. And that giant pussy just accepted that, in his own house. I doubt they even went anywhere afterwards. Lacey was so unhinged that they'd have to leash her to not go and "have fun" with any boys she saw.

That's my main issue with how he is written. He just goes with the flow no matter what. And while with Lacey it makes sense, having being conditioned to follow her like a pup since childhood, it doesn't with anyone else. Anna practically treats him like a child all the time and he never reacts to it.

Yeah they stayed at home all morning, I don't think it was for the reason you mention, but that is what they did.

Ok yeah, they were running damage control, I know, so the fucking pimp is alright in trying to destroy MC marriage but she is tight lipped about this?

I have been saying this for ages, MC is a witness of his own life, a witness with a constant bystander effect.
He is often treated like a child, yes, and he would seldom complain about it but then go on with it.

 

[Sayora]

What method didnt work? Or what part didnt work? The fact that the MC stayed with Lacey?

MC did accept what Mia showed him, because, well it came with a fucking documentary (pun intended). MC never denied the authenticity of the photos. Only the story about them, and even that was eventually believed, and revealed that altrough embelished, the story was somewhat true.

Shock therapy is a quick hard truth to swallow. The example that i told you. She fucked a lot of people, heres a couple of photos. It wasnt necessary to go on extreme details of how she was campus bycicle. Nor it was necessary to stend the lenght in time letting him obsess over what she did. To the point that he finds both Mia and Lacey disgusting.

She could have sit at the table with both of them and told Lacey "either you talk or i do, and i know all the juicy details." And she could have done that even before the wedding. Before would have been wonderfull you know, so he dosent marry a stranger dressing as "his Lacey", and Mia wouldnt lose her sextoy.

On the other side, what are you going on the "the shark likes this anchor"? MC despises what she did in college, he never like that version of her, or what it represents. The remora works perfectly as an analogy, and even foreshadows the "vampire" in her. If you want to change it into an anchor because she drags him down, thats fine. But dont say it like he goes showing off himself and swagging her to others, or finds her attitude or what she did as a good thing, as the comment "the shark likes this and no other shark has such anchor" suggests.

And yes removing the anchor/remora sets the MC free, but remember he wants the remora Lacey by his side. Without her, he is an empty shell. Damned if i do, damned if i dont situation.

I tried to explain it beautifully and clearly in pictures
but it seems that it didn't work

When I said that Mia's method didn't work, I meant that MC
didn't tell Lacey to fuck off when he saw the truth. As for realizing the scale, I doubt that he even wants to realize it.

As for the allegory with the fish, as you correctly noted
"If you want to change it into an anchor because she drags him down, that's fine." I wanted to say exactly that.

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[DeviantFun]

I tried to explain it beautifully and clearly in pictures
but it seems that it didn't work

When I said that Mia's method didn't work, I meant that MC
didn't tell Lacey to fuck off when he saw the truth. As for realizing the scale, I doubt that he even wants to realize it.

As for the allegory with the fish, as you correctly noted
"If you want to change it into an anchor because she drags him down, that's fine." I wanted to say exactly that.

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Now it is clear, you are somewhat projecting, and are assuming that the "gentle way" was not to show the truth and help MC make an informed decision and digest the information in the least painful way possible, but to put a wedge in them no matter what.

You want to see his joy, but you think that scarring him forever is a good plan just because it would align with your 'goal' to separate him from Lacey.

Exactly how the pimp thought.

Not a good look my man, not a good look.

edit: how does the old saying goes? "no one cares about MC"

 

[Sayora]

Now it is clear, you are somewhat projecting, and are assuming that the "gentle way" was not to show the truth and help MC make a informed decision and digest the information in the least painful way possible, but to put a wedge in them no matter what.

You want to see his joy, but you think that scarring him forever is a good plan just because it would align with your 'goal' to separate him from Lacey.

Exactly how the pimp thought.

Not a good look my man, not a good look.

this is my worldview

I also think that scars make a man look good (sad joke)

I want MC to grow some balls and stop acting like a limp dick.

 

[mariorossi69cm]

Since the topics are almost the same until act 3 will come out, do you have any advice on other games like this one? Not only from the same dev of course.

 

[AL.d]

Since the topics are almost the same until act 3 will come out, do you have any advice on other games like this one? Not only from the same dev of course.

Not an ntr story but 'Zero End" has some similar vibes. It's urban fantasy with pretty nice drama.

Childhood sweethearts, something happens in the past and girl betrays MC horribly (not ntr). Practically becomes the villain of the story. Dude still has love-hate relationship with her and blames himself instead of her.

It even has similar vibes on how it treats its characters. Anything masculine-like needs to be neutered and condemned, with MC stuck in self-loathing for actions any male would have taken. And villain girl is treated like an author's pet, who's excused for every inexplicable action she takes because....complex emotions.

 

[Maviarab]

One of the effects of long term use ok K involved your kidneys being fucked up and having bad bladder control, who cares if that is not in the story right now (no matter how much fun it would be for me if Lacey pissed her pants once in a while).

You're a very bad man DF lmao

Since the topics are almost the same until act 3 will come out, do you have any advice on other games like this one? Not only from the same dev of course.

Stay away from On Distant Shores....it will only diappoint you.

Not an ntr story but 'Zero End" has some similar vibes. It's urban fantasy with pretty nice drama.

Childhood sweethearts, something happens in the past and girl betrays MC horribly (not ntr). Practically becomes the villain of the story. Dude still has love-hate relationship with her and blames himself instead of her.

It even has similar vibes on how it treats its characters. Anything masculine-like needs to be neutered and condemned, with MC stuck in self-loathing for actions any male would have taken. And villain girl is treated like an author's pet, who's excused for every inexplicable action she takes because....complex emotions.

Great call. I love it myself (is in my sig after all) but you're spot on with your description.


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Also been having more Barty/FV thoughts hehehe....I know I know...but it really is bugging me, more than anything in the story right now.

Both MC and Lacey work Mon-Fri right? Going through the game again, trying to pinpoint exactly 'during the week' Barty would have had the opportunities to 'purposefully' come and see the succubus porn star knowing she was in and that she was alone. Weekends are evenings are nearly always out...so has to be during the day, and I doubt very much each visit was a 5 min chat how do you do visit. Of course, the dev might not be that smart so I could just be pissing in the wind also...

 

[DeviantFun]

You're a very bad man DF lmao

I never denied that and I won't start now.

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Also been having more Barty/FV thoughts hehehe....I know I know...but it really is bugging me, more than anything in the story right now.

Both MC and Lacey work Mon-Fri right? Going through the game again, trying to pinpoint exactly 'during the week' Barty would have had the opportunities to 'piurposefully' come and see the succubus porn star knowing she was in and that she was alone. Weekends are evenings are nearly always out...so has to be during the day, and I doubt very much each visit was a 5 min chat how do you do visit.

So MC does often work in the weekends, at least some hours.
He also seem to work more hours than Lacey BUT:

M "Barty has turned to alcohol to deal with his grief."
M "He was desperate to talk to someone, so he came and asked Lacey if he could talk to her."
M "She fed him lunch and listened to him cry a few times."
M "Nothing sexual ever happened between them."
MC "How do you know?"
MC "Because Barty seemed to disagree with your statement."
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L "So, Barty stopped by one day and you weren't home."
L "He seemed so sad that I let him in and we talked over some sandwiches."
L "He told me how lost he felt."
L "We got together a couple more times."
L "Then he came over when he was drunk."
L "He tried to... be with me."
L "I pushed him away and told him in no uncertain terms that wasn't okay."
L "He told me that when he did a background check, he found a couple old videos of me from college."
L "He said he thought I was that kind of girl."

Feeding him lunch makes me think it was either the weekend or Lacey wasn't working those days.
Weird?
Where are these Lacey's videos btw? FV surely has access to them.
And either Lacey is witholding information here, or the voice video happened AFTER the boxes dialogue.
Sadly this I cannot answer 100%, because as much as I want to believe that the 5 boxes is a first step towards a more truthful Lacey, it has many holes in it.
Probably Lacey is hiding the fact that she used.

This Lacey reaction to the first time MC confronts her after Barty comes to "apologize".

MC "Has Barty been visiting when I'm not here?"
"There was an uncomfortably long silence."
L "What do you mean?"
MC "I don't mean anything."
MC "I'm just asking if he's come by to visit when I've been out."

This is the last time Barty shows up in person, tricked by Jared.

MC "What are you doing here Barty?"
MC "Didn't do enough damage the last time you came around?"
MC "Thought you'd swing by and try again?"
BA "No. Not at all. I..."

So, this confuses me a lot, surely the video has been recorded before this conversation.
Barty either confuses "the last time" as the video or Lacey was confused and it wasn't Barty that recorded it.
Else it does not make much sense, does it?

Bonus NTR protag dialogue from our MC:

MC "Oh, did you have a chance to talk with Barty?"
L "I have an idea."
MC "What's that?"
L "How about you get off my case about it?"
L "Does that work for you?"
"I hadn't asked her about it even one time until now."
"Her response seemed, overly aggressive."
MC "Yeah, um, sure."

Gets shat on and just meekly retreats.
And then we have to accept that he is feared when he makes a threat.

 

[Maviarab]

Where are these Lacey's videos btw? FV surely has access to them.

I'm going to asssume (not going to say we should)...me....that the fan website very much is still online. I wonder exactly how many video's are actually uploaded....and I wonder (the nature of assholes and the internet being what it is)...exactly how many have been downloaded and reuploaded to other porn sites?

So, this confuses me a lot, surely the video has been recorded before this conversation.
Barty either confuses "the last time" as the video or Lacey was confused and it wasn't Barty that recorded it.
Else it does not make much sense, does it?

It makes very little sense.

MC "Oh, did you have a chance to talk with Barty?"
L "I have an idea."
MC "What's that?"
L "How about you get off my case about it?"
L "Does that work for you?"
"I hadn't asked her about it even one time until now."
"Her response seemed, overly aggressive."
MC "Yeah, um, sure."

Gets shat on and just meekly retreats.
And then we have to accept that he is feared when he makes a threat.

(also indicates with her attitude here, she has used....exact similar tone/coldness to the 'prank morning'). Would you agree with that suggestion?

Much like this conversation too:

L "Well, you can't help okay."
L "There's nothing you can do, except let me get through this."
MC "Sure. Of course."
MC "How about a backrub?"
L "How about you just leave me alone?"
MC "I... I can do that."

She sure as hell did find a lot of K in that sweatshirt, unless as has been suggested before, Jared was supplying it to her directly to either attend or when at the 'parties'.

The more I reread the script and play...the more I find suggestive hints she has used far more than just three times.

 

[AL.d]

I never denied that and I won't start now.




So MC does often work in the weekends, at least some hours.
He also seem to work more hours than Lacey BUT:

M "Barty has turned to alcohol to deal with his grief."
M "He was desperate to talk to someone, so he came and asked Lacey if he could talk to her."
M "She fed him lunch and listened to him cry a few times."
M "Nothing sexual ever happened between them."
MC "How do you know?"
MC "Because Barty seemed to disagree with your statement."
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L "So, Barty stopped by one day and you weren't home."
L "He seemed so sad that I let him in and we talked over some sandwiches."
L "He told me how lost he felt."
L "We got together a couple more times."
L "Then he came over when he was drunk."
L "He tried to... be with me."
L "I pushed him away and told him in no uncertain terms that wasn't okay."
L "He told me that when he did a background check, he found a couple old videos of me from college."
L "He said he thought I was that kind of girl."

Feeding him lunch makes me think it was either the weekend or Lacey wasn't working those days.
Weird?
Where are these Lacey's videos btw? FV surely has access to them.
And either Lacey is witholding information here, or the voice video happened AFTER the boxes dialogue.
Sadly this I cannot answer 100%, because as much as I want to believe that the 5 boxes is a first step towards a more truthful Lacey, it has many holes in it.
Probably Lacey is hiding the fact that she used.

This Lacey reaction to the first time MC confronts her after Barty comes to "apologize".

MC "Has Barty been visiting when I'm not here?"
"There was an uncomfortably long silence."
L "What do you mean?"
MC "I don't mean anything."
MC "I'm just asking if he's come by to visit when I've been out."

This is the last time Barty shows up in person, tricked by Jared.

MC "What are you doing here Barty?"
MC "Didn't do enough damage the last time you came around?"
MC "Thought you'd swing by and try again?"
BA "No. Not at all. I..."

So, this confuses me a lot, surely the video has been recorded before this conversation.
Barty either confuses "the last time" as the video or Lacey was confused and it wasn't Barty that recorded it.
Else it does not make much sense, does it?

Bonus NTR protag dialogue from our MC:

MC "Oh, did you have a chance to talk with Barty?"
L "I have an idea."
MC "What's that?"
L "How about you get off my case about it?"
L "Does that work for you?"
"I hadn't asked her about it even one time until now."
"Her response seemed, overly aggressive."
MC "Yeah, um, sure."

Gets shat on and just meekly retreats.
And then we have to accept that he is feared when he makes a threat.

That last dialogue, is indeed very ntr-ish. And it's also textbook guilty person dialogue. Makes you wonder what exactly Lacey remembered from that encounter that she wanted to shut the discussion down like that.

I have my own theory that the whole Barty plot has changed and got repurposed during development. I've said it before, I think dev shot himself in the foot creatively with the self imposed restriction about only act 1 ntr. So after cramming act 1 with tension and drama, he didn't know what to do with act 2, when he saw game got popular. And that's how the silly spy games got in.

It's all speculation of course, but I believe Barty was supposed to be yet another ambiguous ntr plot in act 1. Dude talks about wife's mouth like he knows, Lacey is very guilty and hides shit, standard ntr stuff. But left it open to interpretation much like Jared. But then act 2 came and he has no tension or drama to work with. So he invents the spy games, takes the open Barty plot and just crams it in there. And since ntr is forbidden post act 1, it needs to be something dumb like deepfakes.

 

[DeviantFun]

I'm going to asssume (not going to say we should)...me....that the fan website very much is still online. I wonder exactly how many video's are actually uploaded....and I wonder (the nature of assholes and the internet being what it is)...exactly how many have been downloaded and reuploaded to other porn sites?


It makes very little sense.


(also indicates with her attitude here, she has used....exact similar tone/coldness to the 'prank morning'). Would you agree with that suggestion?

Much like this conversation too:

L "Well, you can't help okay."
L "There's nothing you can do, except let me get through this."
MC "Sure. Of course."
MC "How about a backrub?"
L "How about you just leave me alone?"
MC "I... I can do that."

She sure as hell did find a lot of K in that sweatshirt, unless as has been suggested before, Jared was supplying it to her directly to either attend or when at the 'parties'.

The more I reread the script and play...the more I find suggestive hints she has used far more than just three times.

The fact that the internet videos are not used as a tool for drama is a total sin.

I don't know if Lacey used or not there, I think it is just a dialogue to create drama without too much thinking behind it, she feels guilty and cornered so she lashes out (so much for being non confrontational).

That last dialogue, is indeed very ntr-ish. And it's also textbook guilty person dialogue. Makes you wonder what exactly Lacey remembered from that encounter that she wanted to shut the discussion down like that.

I have my own theory that the whole Barty plot has changed and got repurposed during development. I've said it before, I think dev shot himself in the foot creatively with the self imposed restriction about only act 1 ntr. So after cramming act 1 with tension and drama, he didn't know what to do with act 2, when he saw game got popular. And that's how the silly spy games got in.

It's all speculation of course, but I believe Barty was supposed to be yet another ambiguous ntr plot in act 1. Dude talks about wife's mouth like he knows, Lacey is very guilty and hides shit, standard ntr stuff. But left it open to interpretation much like Jared. But then act 2 came and he has no tension or drama to work with. So he invents the spy games, takes the open Barty plot and just crams it in there. And since ntr is forbidden post act 1, it needs to be something dumb like deepfakes.

I have the same theory and I agree with all you said, this whole plotline has been attached as an afterthought because the author didn't find a better way to deal with the rest of the story.

The problems I have with this are better put in a list:

• He created cartoon villains with vague motivations
• There was already a lot of potential drama available
  • Lacey videos on the net, someone could have found them and started sharing them, Mc sees etc etc
  • the no NTR? he already put the seeds for MC being jealous of all the girls, why not make one of the girls get with someone else and make him jealous for it?
  • Lorenzo is still around
  • Isaac was still around
  • Damian is still around
  • Stephen coming for a visit to town OR the pimp getting invited to a college reunion
  • Lacey being recognized in the streets or at the cafe as the protagonist of porn videos
  • Mc being berated publicly often due to the Isaac video
  • Lacey losing her job and spiraling

And these are just some of the things I have in mind.
No spy games, deepfakes or whatever needed, just pure unadultered reality.

 

[Maviarab]

The fact that the internet videos are not used as a tool for drama is a total sin.

I don't know if Lacey used or not there, I think it is just a dialogue to create drama without too much thinking behind it, she feels guilty and cornered so she lashes out (so much for being non confrontational).



I have the same theory and I agree with all you said, this whole plotline has been attached as an afterthought because the author didn't find a better way to deal with the rest of the story.

The problems I have with this are better put in a list:

• He created cartoon villains with vague motivations
• There was already a lot of potential drama available
  • Lacey videos on the net, someone could have found them and started sharing them, Mc sees etc etc
  • the no NTR? he already put the seeds for MC being jealous of all the girls, why not make one of the girls get with someone else and make him jealous for it?
  • Lorenzo is still around
  • Isaac was still around
  • Damian is still around
  • Stephen coming for a visit to town OR the pimp getting invited to a college reunion
  • Lacey being recognized in the streets or at the cafe as the protagonist of porn videos
  • Mc being berated publicly often due to the Isaac video
  • Lacey losing her job and spiraling

And these are just some of the things I have in mind.
No spy games, deepfakes or whatever needed, just pure unadultered reality.

And all those far more based in reality than what we currently have.

Similar to Isaac (as you mention him). I have no issue with him being around, or gloating, or whatever, my only issue with his original plotline was the serioiusly simp/obsessed vibes after being with a sex doll for 3 weeks. It's like...dude must have 50 of them lined up. Him gloating and berating the MC for being married to his former slut is actually quite realistic imo.

I mean we could have also had (proff, if reading this feel free to use) him saying to the MC he moved on as he found out so much her time was taped and uploaded to a site and if that came out it would not be good for his career, thus causing the MC to look for it. Him not doing so after Lacey told him about the site is yet another...lost opportunity.