VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 2] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[Maviarab]

No no, there was no comatose girl, I pointed it out beforehand, which also doesn't make much sense for someone VERY blitzed on K that doesn't remember things but hear me out:

You do not get good at sex just by doing it, if I went around and get to fuck 2000 women just by humping them like a dog I don't magically become a sex god.

You need to put effort, and that is what she did, she put effort in learning to deepthroat, she put effort in learning how to relax to get anally fucked or fisted regularly (protip, be careful, there can be complications if you don't let your ass "heal") and she put effort in learning what to say to men.
She specifically says this when justifying the Damian aberration "I know men like to be complimented".

She was learning and putting effort in it, does it match the pimp last lesson? no.
Does it match someone that doesn't recall half of the time that she used? not really, she doesn't remember but the rest becomes mucle memory? come on.
So even if we move her learning towards the first and second phase, it would mean that she didn't use much K or not use at all when she was having sex and then applied that knowledge to phase 3.

i don't think the disgusting pimp (I just went some of her dialogues and my god what a disgusting human being the author conjured up) ever talked about a "comatose" girl but her recount as usual, to Al.d chagrin is all over the place.

M "She's high and drunk."
M "Mugging for the camera."
M "Doesn't even really know what she's doing."
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M "But you know what? The ketamine didn't turn you into a different person."
M "It made you feel comfortable enough in your own skin, to be the person you were."
M "The stuff you said in that video, that's not the kind of stuff you said back then."
M "K mostly made you quiet and compliant."
M "It made it seem like you just didn't care what was happening."
M "You certainly weren't going around professing your love for these people."
M "But in this one, you sure were talking up a fucking storm."

Which is which? The only thing we have to compare is the damian incident, so I think the second one is more "realistic".
Obviously some times she could have taken more and the last lesson shows the last parties before she sobered up (obviously against the pimp will so she dragged her down again), so it could be that things were getting progressively worse.

Exactly, total mismatch. However, in the last part of that dialogue, after the Barty deepfake, it was not just succubus and pimp was it? She had to deflect again.

And yes I agree, she was enthusiatic, she bacame a fuck queen, a goddess of making men cum....she didn't do that if she was 'quiet and compliant' (as I say, comotose in effect...she didn't care).

We only have pimps opinion on that though for the most part, another known liar....someone always ready to defend and deflect for her doll.

One again, the math ain't mathin' hehehe.

 

[DeviantFun]

Exactly, total mismatch. However, in the last part of that dialogue, after the Barty deepfake, it was not just succubus and pimp was it? She had to deflect again.

And yes I agree, she was enthusiatic, she bacme a fuck queen, a goddess of making men cum....she didn't do that if she was 'quioet and compiant' (as I say, comotose in effect...she didn't care.

We only have pimps opinion on that though for the most part, another known liar....someone always ready to defend and deflect for her doll.

One again, the math ain't mathin' hehehe.

I forgot to add that K fucks up your motor skills, a lot!

So if she was using tons of it tbh she could have found that even speaking can become challenging, I had friends gets frustrated and worried when that happened.
You know the classic: "will I be like this forever?"

So my explanation is that the K was ramping up, started in low and moderate doses and then blew up.

Fits perfectly in the "she was having way more fun than she is willing to admit" theory of mine, with the last leg of college being full of regret and drug abuse , knowing full well she fucked up royally with the help of her trusty pimp sidekick.

 

[Maviarab]

I forgot to add that K fucks up your motor skills, a lot!

So if she was using tons of it tbh she could have found that even speaking can become challenging,

Which doesn't fit at all in all the other times we have seen her use it/assume she has used it. Perfectly coherant when talking to Mia after Bastion, perfectly coherant (if not cold) when telling the MC she playing tennis with the boys....

Etc etc etc etc.,....

Again...we apply this logic evenly, across the board...or we stop cherry picking excuses/times. You can't have both. Or, it's all lies, deflection and misdirection.

 

[CrysusPariah2]

It really makes zero sense, at all, why pimp and Anna suddenly turned up.


Wait..when is this dialogue? *checks script*

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Then the convo you posed./...seems she remembers very, VERY well Barty coming around when she was using K.....she does remember it...and she probably remembered it in Mid Act 1 when she said to the MC, nothing bad happened....

more lies succubus...more lies.....

(this also ties into the 'interview/sweater being early Act 1).

So after all this time, you actually agree with my initial theory?

 

[DeviantFun]

Which doesn't fit at all in all the other times we have seen her use it/assume she has used it. Perfectly coherant when talking to Mia after Bastion, perfectly coherant (if not cold) when telling the MC she playing tennis with the boys....

Etc etc etc etc.,....

Again...we apply this logic evenly, across the board...or we stop cherry picking excuses/times. You can't have both. Or, it's all lies, deflection and misdirection.

I just think it is a somewhat less than precise description of the drug effects.
I know you don't like it but we should really let it go, maybe she built enough resistance that she was immune to the major effects.

As I said, let's call it Lacey's dust and be done with it, especially because I don't think we have anyone here that can bring first hand experience of that sort of use.

Some of us came out with our experiences, but I doubt that they can be compared to the use Lacey did.

 

[Maviarab]

So after all this time, you actually agree with my initial theory?

As I said, let's call it Lacey's dust and be done with it

Neveeeerrrrrrrrr

 

[Maviarab]

Something else I have just caught on to, redoing all the Succubus dialogue regarding Barty:

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So, not only does she remember what happened (so lied to the MC if really the sweater incident)...but:

Also...I found a stash and a bump...this refers to more than just K (A 'bump' is drug slang that refers specifically to snorting substances such as cocaine). What else did she find, where did it come from? Barty/FV perhaps planted both?

I refuse to believe that after all the time living with the MC, moving in, daily clothes changing...she just happened to 'come accross' this old sweatshirt (she hasn't warn since school, not noticed it when she moved in, unpacked...been looking for something to wear...convenient..no?) and it 'just happened' to contain a stash of drugs...and a 'bump' of K. Never comes across it before?

Also, as I love to doubt shit....the succubus is at home when Mia drops off the fabled 'suitcase' (which can contain either bought sex toys, college party slut clothes...or the red hoodie depending on path). This is three quarters through Act 1.

Succubus is at home! MC goes to work!

While yes I am leaning to the 'sweater' being early on in Act 1....it still doesn't entirely sit right with me. Suppose she took the K here (and maybe whatever else was there) after Mia left. Suppose, Barty did make another visit, despite we 'believing' he never came around again...and the succubus making it clear, he was not welcome.

Yes, throwing out wild theories in the windy rainstorm. Did Mia plant them? Did she plant them under instruction...from someone else, knowing that once returned, the succubus would go straight through the case and look? Even though the succubus in the end of Act 2 dialogue says she found it while her/MC were going through hard time with the MC's trust issues due to her fuck ups.

(However, another half-truth? When the pimp brings the case round, they were still going through difficulties...the open relationship issues, MC accusing the succubus of lying about Bastion and saying she was a slut ands his humilation. All this is the days before....

MC, MIa, Anna...only have her word for this 'sweatshirt'. An entire event she is struggling to remember...but remembers clearly, she found drugs in a sweatshirt. That's some fucking amazing selective memory...

A known compulsive liar, especially when her back is against the ropes and she caught in a web of her own deceit....

 

[winterwolf200]

 

[CrysusPariah2]

Something else I have just caught on to, redoing all the Succubus dialogue regarding Barty:

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So, not only does she remember what happened (so lied to the MC if really the sweater incident)...but:

Also...I found a stash and a bump...this refers to more than just K (A 'bump' is drug slang that refers specifically to snorting substances such as cocaine). What else did she find, where did it come from? Barty/FV perhaps planted both?

I refuse to believe that after all the time living with the MC, moving in, daily clothes changing...she just happened to 'come accross' this old sweatshirt (she hasn't warn since school, not noticed it when she moved in, unpacked...been looking for something to wear...convenient..no?) and it 'just happened' to contain a stash of drugs...and a 'bump' of K. Never comes across it before?

Also, as I love to doubt shit....the succubus is at home when Mia drops off the fabled 'suitcase' (which can contain either bought sex toys, college party slut clothes...or the red hoodie depending on path). This is three quarters through Act 1.

Succubus is at home! MC goes to work!

While yes I am leaning to the 'sweater' being early on in Act 1....it still doesn't entirely sit right with me. Suppose she took the K here (and maybe whatever else was there) after Mia left. Suppose, Barty did make another visit, despite we 'believing' he never came around again...and the succubus making it clear, he was not welcome.

Yes, throwing out wild theories in the windy rainstorm. Did Mia plant them? Did she plant them under instruction...from someone else, knowing that once returned, the succubus would go straight through the case and look? Even though the succubus in the end of Act 2 dialogue says she found it while her/MC were going through hard time with the MC's trust issues due to her fuck ups.

(However, another half-truth? When the pimp brings the case round, they were still going through difficulties...the open relationship issues, MC accusing the succubus of lying about Bastion and saying she was a slut ands his humilation. All this is the days before....

MC, MIa, Anna...only have her word for this 'sweatshirt'. An entire event she is struggling to remember...but remembers clearly, she found drugs in a sweatshirt. That's some fucking amazing selective memory...

A known compulsive liar, especially when her back is against the ropes and she caught in a web of her own deceit....

I also previously posted the thought of Mia having possession of Lacey’s old college stash and that she could be planting it around the house to sabotage Lacey.
It would also explain how she hand so much in her purse during Act 2

 

[Maviarab]

I also previously posted the thought of Mia having possession of Lacey’s old college stash and that she could be planting it around the house to sabotage Lacey.
It would also explain how she hand so much in her purse during Act 2

Yes you have, I do recall.

So my theory of this being the sweatshirt/interview time (even the sweatshirt being the hoodie perhaps and her just not bringing it up to save more MC drama)? Thoughts?

I appreciate this theory, also has holes and opens more questions.

 

[mariorossi69cm]

Bonus NTR protag dialogue from our MC:

MC "Oh, did you have a chance to talk with Barty?"
L "I have an idea."
MC "What's that?"
L "How about you get off my case about it?"
L "Does that work for you?"
"I hadn't asked her about it even one time until now."
"Her response seemed, overly aggressive."
MC "Yeah, um, sure."

I don't remember when this dialogue happened, can you help me?

 

[Maviarab]

I don't remember when this dialogue happened, can you help me?

After one of the lessons and MC walking out (early Act 1): More for you:

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Then right after:

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Doesn't her reply sound like she was on the morning of the prank tennis date? Cold, aloof, annoyed, uncaring, no fucks given.....

And yes, I'm once again stating that there was more than the 'three uses after marriage' she tells the MC. Something does not add up with her behaviour.

 

[CrysusPariah2]

Doesn't her reply sound like she was on the morning of the prank tennis date? Cold, aloof, annoyed, uncaring, no fucks given.....

Yes, that’s why i initially placed the ketamine use/interview shortly before this.

 

[Fitharia]

I also previously posted the thought of Mia having possession of Lacey’s old college stash and that she could be planting it around the house to sabotage Lacey.
It would also explain how she hand so much in her purse during Act 2

Wether it planted or not, if watched the vid Barty or whoever send to mc, the conversation Barty had with Lacey sounded like he gave her some more drugs as he asked if it finaly working, if she finaly feels good. I know the girl in the vid wasn't Lacey but the voice over was, so Barty must have drugged her more and made her say things to be used in the vid. Probably some parts of the voice over was real conversation and others AI generated.

 

[mariorossi69cm]

and guys I know it's a dumb question, but I can't remember what the red hoodie is. I've searched in the img folder of the game and I can't find it. Can someone refresh my memory please?

 

[Diosvincenccio]

and guys I know it's a dumb question, but I can't remember what the red hoodie is

The clothes Lacey was wearing when she did depart to college. A red hoodie. Shown at the beggining of the game.
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Edited to add the backside of the hoodie.

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[mariorossi69cm]

The clothes Lacey was wearing when she did depart to college. A red hoodie. Shown at the beggining of the game.

Oooh ok was right at the beginning. I thought was something during act 1 that i couldn't remember, thanks.

 

[Diosvincenccio]

Oooh ok was right at the beginning. I thought was something during act 1 that i couldn't remember, thanks.

Its mentioned later when Mia drops the second suitcase (on slut or no fun path) as part of the clothes from the college times, or at least its asumed to be the same hoodie. It could have been one of the clothes that had some K. Its not entirely sure.

 

[AL.d]

After one of the lessons and MC walking out (early Act 1): More for you:

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Then right after:

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Doesn't her reply sound like she was on the morning of the prank tennis date? Cold, aloof, annoyed, uncaring, no fucks given.....

Or it is the other side seeping out. There are plenty of these bitch Lacey moments so I don't think it's the drug.

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Here is her supposedly comforting him, after him flipping out during her homecoming from getting some refreshing cheating cock. That wording screams understanding and comfort, so sweet it's diabetes inducing. Demeaning your husband after forcibly cuckolding him, truly shows some tough love.

 

[CrysusPariah2]

Its mentioned later when Mia drops the second suitcase (on slut or no fun path) as part of the clothes from the college times, or at least its asumed to be the same hoodie. It could have been one of the clothes that had some K. Its not entirely sure.

Lacey confirms that it is the same Hoodie she left for college with and said something about disposing of it before the MC sees it