VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 3] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[AL.d]

I didn't interprete anything , as you can see when you read my post , just stating a fact.
I didn't say that the MC was happy or anything like that , just saying what is in the material provided , nothing else.

Edit:
As for the shift , the MC paying for 2 hours of pleasure for Lacey could never have hapened in act 1-2.
Same for Lacey with how she asks the MC for a threesome with an ex.
not an interpretation here.

It would have happened in act 1 and 2. You know how I know that? Because it did. Dude was cucked in 4k and when he saw his calls/texts were ignored, he was so broken that he just resorted to "at least don't kiss him". Which she did of course. If it's something Lacey pushes for, it will always be accepted and it applies to all acts so far.

What has changed is his (lack of) reaction in the aftermath. Forced acceptance through the exposure this "reprograming" is doing to him. It's no coincidence that alongside him having fewer "word vomits" about Lacey's antics, his mental condition is worse than ever before. Because that's what happens with forced acceptance. The game broadcasts very loudly that he is repressing his reactions to what is happening to him. It happened constantly in his thought monologues during girls day.

 

[daimadochi]

Yes you're right like i said previously , he was always ok to share her.
That's not a shift in mentality he was always ok to share her.

 

[AL.d]

Yes you're right like i said previously , he was always ok to share her.
That's not a shift in mentality he was always ok to share her.

you seem to have an extremely weird definition of "OK" I guess.

 

[Lestrouduc]

I just did when i pointed out how the MC gave money to Lacey to get 2 hours of pleasure with the master BDSM guy.
I mean , it's precisely an evidence right here , he pays to share her with that guy , or at least that's what he thinks (and by the way with how lacey and jeanette answerd to abby just after the BDSM thing i think so to).
Same thing for the threesome with her EX , like you said he didn't even asks her wtf was going on or if she was crazy or what , wich is very strange for him.
If it's not a shift in mentality i don't know what it is.
Or maybe you're right and he was always like that , ready to share her like , when Lacey asks him , or tells him would be more accurate , that she's going to fuck a random guy on the business trip.
Or the JD date.
yes you may be right he was always ok , reluctantly and with great suffering , but ok to share her.

No, come on, MC never wanted to share Lacey with anyone, quite the opposite... but with Lacey and her constant manipulation, he just can't say no, that's all. Besides, in Act 3, she confronts him about it, explaining that he needs to stop saying yes to everything when she starts messing up.

Anyway, see the story however you want, but you can trust DeviantFun for the script of this VN, which he knows almost entirely by heart.

 

[daimadochi]

You think ?
I don't think so.
He's ok to share her , he suffers from that fact , he does it reluctantly , but he's ok to share her.
Or maybe the word "accepts" fits better ? i don't know i'm not a native english speaker so i don't know the nuance between words.

 

[PonderingPotatoPal]

If we had just 6 games like Love & Jealous releasing 12-hour updates every 4 months, life would be so much better
The developer stated this update is 7 hours long, but he’s probably one of those speed readers who stares at the center of a page for 3 seconds and absorbs everything. I'm certain it took me about 12 hours, and that volume of gameplay is absolutely excellent

This act, just like the previous two, was excellent. The MC is gradually getting into hotter scenes with the other girls. The scenes in this update were very hot. I can't believe I actually liked the femboy scene; I'm not usually a fan of femboys, but that scene—the dialogue and the built-up tension behind it—was so good that I enjoyed it thoroughly

Every time I tell myself, "That's it, everything is resolved, the issues between the MC and Lacey are completely fixed, everything from the past is settled," the developer surprises me again, and a new, tense, and definitely emotional plot point emerges. How is it possible for an experience/game to have this much gameplay yet the tension never dissipates? How much story does this developer have left to tell? He has definitely entered my top 3 favorite developers list; his work is truly praiseworthy

You know, when I play 99.99% of other games, I constantly complain about the characters being stupid
But when I play this game, I find fault with my own stupidity. The characters in this game are incredibly intelligent and multi-dimensional. True, they each have their own flaws, but other aspects of them are extremely rich. I’ve personally learned so many different things from them—their perspectives on life, jealousy, attachment, and everything else they regularly discuss in the game

I’m very happy that this game is winning the Patreon poll, and we’ll likely see another update soon. I hope this game doesn't end anytime soon. The "Professor" I know is capable of extending this experience much further without ruining its excellence

I’ve rambled on a bit; it was just an outlet for the energy and immense enjoyment I got from this update, and I wanted to share it here because most members here are the only ones who actually understand the characters. Elsewhere, people just easily dismiss the MC as a "stupid cuckold" and call Lacey a "street whore" right at the start of the game

Yo, hold up, buddy. So, about this poll you're bringing up... does that actually mean the Professor is currently grinding away on a new update for this game? That's wild

 

[DeviantFun]

You think ?
I don't think so.
He's ok to share her , he suffers from that fact , he does it reluctantly , but he's ok to share her.
Or maybe the word "accepts" fits better ? i don't know i'm not a native english speaker so i don't know the nuance between words.

Now it is clearer, yes he accepts it because he fears that if he does not go along with her demands she will leave him again.

This is true.

 

[daimadochi]

Same thing about just after the BDSM thing , maybe lover means something different or more nuanced than what i thought ?
I mean my comprehension of english is pretty basic so maybe that's the problem ?
When you read that part in game (the lover thing) what do you think about that ?

 

[DeviantFun]

Same thing about just after the BDSM thing , maybe lover means something different or more nuanced than what i thought ?
I mean my comprehension of english is pretty basic so maybe that's the problem ?
When you read that part in game (the lover thing) what do you think about that ?

From what is said from the rest of the material, the girls ASSUME master dickweed is a great lover, probably coming from how he manhandled and subjugated them.

It does NOT mean he did anything penetrative or sexual directly on their genitals.
He "only" degraded them, dominated them, put them on "sex machines" (I would say props or apparatuses but a native english speaker will help us here), stimulated erogenous zones (tits and ass we are sure of, others could be involved) with paddles and other instruments.

The phrase (the lover thing as you say) was left there so the author could create confusion and misunderstanding in the reader, for mystery.

I hope this is clear, english as it might be painstakingly obvious is not my first language as well.

 

[Lady Lydia]

You are missing the point about monsters, you are missing the point about Mia cheering for sexual assaults, you are missing the point about Mia trying to break their marriage (twice as you also forgot about Mia original plan), you miss the point of MC actually saying that their relationship is colder (skip to them agreeing to the deed through Lacey) and more.

In fact you missed so much that you forgot that MC actually, during one of his half breakdowns, blames her and wonders to whom he should direct his anger (ending up as usual, towards himself).

I do not judge by my perspective, but from the actual dialogues shown, word for word.
Stop with this nonsense about me injecting my wordview, when I do that I strongly underline it in my posts, the rest comes directly from the dialogues.

How boring that I have to have this on repeat, if I ever had to self insert in this novel, which I avoid anyway, it would be on Lacey'd side, surely not MC.

Oh and if you do not see Mia actions as evil during college more kudos to you, but you realized what was Mia's driving force during that time, right?
Explained in act 2 intro to KW and act 3 during the preparation of the painting.
Heck you can read a ccouple of passages in act 1 that actually underline what she has done as very wrong.

But I guess the material really does not mean much, right?

Alright, first point, you are saying that Mia cheered for Lacey's sexual assault, well its a perspective alright because at no point I remember anyone in the game using those terms, so its entirely possible the MC doesn't see it this way, again if Lacey hasn't blamed or kicked out Mia from her life, what the fuck do you think it means from the MC's perspective? That it must not have been that bad.

About trying to break their marriage, he confronted her about it it, and it was resolved. If you think about the videos or Kelly, at this point he is over the first and he like Kelly so its not like he'd blame Mia for bringing her into their lives. Sure he might have some left over resentment, but nothing making a huge fuss over for him.

Now you say the MC during a partial breakdown blame Mia, yea during a partial breakdown, not normally, so obviously you can't expect that to stick outside of those circumstances. You do realize their are times people think differently under various strains you can't expect what he think when half-crazed to stick around when he isn't.

You keep using the excuse 'it comes from the game' without accounting if its information known to the MC or only to Lacey & Mia, and what exactly he was told about it. The problem is you are big on speaking the truth from a perspective that isn't always possessed by the MC, but by other characters, or interpretation of your own.

If I say 'a girl has sex with a boy' and if I say 'a girl has sex with a underage boy' both are the truth, but one has implications the other doesn't. Do the MC is aware of everything that happened in College, or does he know only a limited amount that Mia & Lacey told him? Is it clearly stated he was told all the details you know about what happened? Or does he merely has a vague idea outside those images of what happened?

 

[daimadochi]

Yes , to fit what all of the girls says about that event , appart for the lover thing wich is very confusing to me ,it's pretty obvious that it should be as you said.
Just in my country (france) lover or amoureux is really , well something else than just manhandling or subjugating , i mean really really different if you know what i mean.
That's why it's confusing.

 

[Lady Lydia]

Yes , to fit what all of the girls says about that event , appart for the lover thing wich is very confusing to me ,it's pretty obvious that it should be as you said.
Just in my country (france) lover or amoureux is really , well something else than just manhandling or subjugating , i mean really really different if you know what i mean.
That's why it's confusing.

Oh no even in English using the term 'lover' will typically relate to sex. Not to merely manhandling or subjugating. Its a pretty wild notion for them to supposedly theorize he'd be a good lover from him just manhandling or subjugating them. Maybe however its meant to relate to the notion he knew how to push their buttons so to speak, so they assume he'd be great at sexually stimulating people, which would be more along the definition of 'lover'.

 

[Lady Lydia]

Yo, hold up, buddy. So, about this poll you're bringing up... does that actually mean the Professor is currently grinding away on a new update for this game? That's wild

No the poll state holidays, I doubt the holidays already started for many.

 

[Lestrouduc]

Yes , to fit what all of the girls says about that event , appart for the lover thing wich is very confusing to me ,it's pretty obvious that it should be as you said.
Just in my country (france) lover or amoureux is really , well something else than just manhandling or subjugating , i mean really really different if you know what i mean.
That's why it's confusing.

So Greetings from another Frenchman

 

[monkeyqueen]

I mean for what I assume would be the Romeo & Juliette ending, a bad ending, I assume the MC will decide to leave Lacey but without a replacement for her he'll just be miserable and jump off the Cliff, at which point when Lacey will hear about it she'll go there too and jump off too, but as bad as that sound, death is pretty final, so its not worst than the above. I assume you get this one if the MC refuse every relationships with other women.

Bad / Tragic ending" While I'm glad that lydia has adopted my language of Romeo and Juliet ending I'm sticking with my original theory. They will die in a final sex scene that is just like the sex scene at the end of act 1. He strangles her to death and then jumps off the cliff. The MC never confronts the fact that he (not his wife) is his own worst enemy and he consumed by jealousy because it vindicates his anger and he just enjoys abusing her.

MC will choke harder and harder while he rants about how she cucked him once again. She will smile. He will go too far and break her neck and say "how could I do this"? I'm not like this?! And then make his way to the cliff.

Neutral ending: MC leaves Lacey, Lacey goes to Isaac. Kelly and MC marry and MC makes Kelly into a reflection of Lacey.


Why?

Kelly only feels whole when is with her work husband, MC is starting to show Kelly a peek of the blinding rage that drives him.

Isaac is trying to become more like the MC's (false) persona - generous, patient and self sacrificing.

And we have foreshadowing - Isaac dresses up his conquests in Lacey wigs. Lacey mentions the movie Single White Female.

(those who say the prof doesn't use foreshadowing are mistaken)

Neither MC makes any progress in their mental health journey but are stuck with less destructive copies of their former lovers

 

[Cenc]

They will die in a final sex scene that is just like the sex scene at the end of act 1. He strangles her to death and then jumps off the cliff.

Indeed, Chekov's gun cliff has yet to really go off....

Personally I believe the really tragic will probably be more akin to Romeo and Juliette, a case of death by mistake - it's almost poetic -.-

 

[DeviantFun]

I remember there was a discussion about MC having PTSD or not.

My personal speculation is that at the beginning, MC current mental health status was not planned as such, and it is still my belief that the codependancy part was heavily inspired by our local mental health expert posts here.

I think that MC having PTSD has one pretty damning heavy piece of evidence:

 

[monkeyqueen]

I remember there was a discussion about MC having PTSD or not.

My personal speculation is that at the beginning, MC current mental health status was not planned as such, and it is still my belief that the codependancy part was heavily inspired by our local mental health expert posts here.

I think that MC having PTSD has one pretty damning heavy piece of evidence:

I think co dependency is a core theme of the story. But I also think you are right that PTSD will come into effect. It's weird that we know so much about Lacey's childhood that we do about the MC's does Gristle have a mother and father? Probably not because he never calls them so how did he lose them?

Here's a very dark theory. This is an NTR story - how did a kid figure out the sexual abuse angle? Perhaps he actually saw the abuse take place and was traumatized by that

 

[JarrenBlake]

I think co dependency is a core theme of the story. But I also think you are right that PTSD will come into effect. It's weird that we know so much about Lacey's childhood that we do about the MC's does Gristle have a mother and father? Probably not because he never calls them so how did he lose them?

Here's a very dark theory. This is an NTR story - how did a kid figure out the sexual abuse angle? Perhaps he actually saw the abuse take place and was traumatized by that

That is indeed a dark take.

My own thoughts are that the MCs parents are likely just somewhat negligent and they do not have a close relationship (If still alive). Could indeed be that he was raised in the state/foster system as well. Rather than having seen it, we do know that he observed the after effects and planned out his life and behaviors around such with his rules. Making him a secondary victim to Lacy's parental abuse and not just an outside observer.