VN Ren'Py Love & Jealousy [Act 3] [Professor Amethyst Games]

[NewGuy2022]

It think all of that is extremely important when various progressions for kinks are considered as well as the overall mindset of the characters in how they view these various things.

The MC is considered the "prude" or "inexperienced" in all of this, and some might suggest that this is the "reasoning" to "open him up" to such experiences (Lacey says this), but the reality is... some people just don't view things that way, don't see that as normal or healthy regardless of what "reasoning" may be given.

I would posit, neither does Lacey... as it is obvious by the writing that she also sees this activity as harmful (she notes in how she feels, how she sees him feel in various dialogue).

So we know the MC's position, this one is easy. Lacey? We see by her past behavior, and various "indiscretions" that she may think otherwise, but then... Lacey over and over "says" otherwise (shows remorse and regret when she breaks and is pushed to to it) AND she displays the person who validates this by her own actions when the MC partakes in those activities Lacey did.

So does the traditional NTS trope make sense in this? Does sharing in anyway improve the MC or Lacey for that matter? I could understand if Lacey was cheering at the sidelines when the MC poked the girls, and praised him, asking for all the details when he did his deeds, as well as going on about how she is excited to partake in this eventually... but does she? Does she show the personality of someone who approves of this lifestyle? I don't think so.

In fact, she gets JEALOUS, often... and not simply jealous, but sad, and VINDICTIVE, willing to bring about extreme pain to the MC when he does these "sanctioned" actions.

Why? I don't know... the writing is confusing... at times... I think Lacey does it on purpose so she can get her Cuck kink fulfilled and it makes me think this is all a ploy to "condition" the MC to that eventual result, but... on the other side I also see dialogue that displays remorse for everything, her past, her actions, her pushing of the MC and the whole situation in itself.

All I can say is... I am confused.

My personal view of a sharing relationship is one where both parties love each other but enjoy seeing the partner receive pleasure from another... ...to relive the experience in a positive way with their partner who then "reclaims" the shared partner. All of this is done by mutual agreement with good communication, any boundaries well-explained and understood, and (this is the most important part) each partner respecting the boundaries of the other partner without intent to deceive or manipulate. It's about enjoying how your partner is drawing pleasure; it's about your partner, not about yourself.

In no part of the story so far have I seen these elements present. Until I see all of them present, I won't see what these two are doing now as "sharing." And I won't see any ending with this faux-sharing as anything "good" or even "neutral."

She may have been well intending, I get that... but FFS... really? Her being able to play her whole "healing" act out was simply because the MC has been beaten down, destroyed, confused, etc... to the point of being irrational.

You don't heal yourself by tearing down those around you; you do it by building yourself up along with those around you.

 

[funnythings3785]

My personal view of a sharing relationship is one where both parties love each other but enjoy seeing the partner receive pleasure from another... ...to relive the experience in a positive way with their partner who then "reclaims" the shared partner. All of this is done by mutual agreement with good communication, any boundaries well-explained and understood, and (this is the most important part) each partner respecting the boundaries of the other partner without intent to deceive or manipulate. It's about enjoying how your partner is drawing pleasure; it's about your partner, not about yourself.

In no part of the story so far have I seen these elements present. Until I see all of them present, I won't see what these two are doing now as "sharing." And I won't see any ending with this faux-sharing as anything "good" or even "neutral."

I don't think they can ever develop to that due to the initial character designs and the manner in which they were developed. The dialogue has already clearly established they don't view such interactions as ever being "healthy" between them or for anyone for that matter.

This story doesn't seem to support that concept at all, at least... not as is established from the characters own words.

 

[NewGuy2022]

I don't think they can ever develop to that due to the initial character designs and the manner in which they were developed. The dialogue has already clearly established they don't view such interactions as ever being "healthy" between them or for anyone for that matter.

This story doesn't seem to support that concept at all, at least... not as is established from the characters own words.

I don't disagree. That is why I do not see a harem or happy family ending to this story as "good."

 

[Lady Lydia]

I don't think they can ever develop to that due to the initial character designs and the manner in which they were developed. The dialogue has already clearly established they don't view such interactions as ever being "healthy" between them or for anyone for that matter.

This story doesn't seem to support that concept at all, at least... not as is established from the characters own words.

Again, arguments that have been made for things to happen or not happen in this story are virtually always based on the characters own words, but can you trust their words? You think nobody lie? To others? Or to themselves? Or change their minds? Sometimes on a whim? We should be taking everything that is said in this game with a grain of salt, its impossible to say if what they say is what they really think, what they believe they think, or what they think in the moment but won't the next day. Do you know about repression? How many homosexual people lived a life pretending to be heterosexual for the sake of social acceptance?

A gay man that never loved romantically a woman will tell his wife 'I love you', it can be a straight lie, or he might fool himself thinking he do love her, or he might actually do so in a platonic fashion, which wouldn't be really what its meant to imply. People repress all sorts of kinks, you have people that have truthfully from an intellectual point of view claimed they'd hate to be cheated on, only for when that notion became possible to discover that emotionally they actually like it.

You cannot consider anything the characters do, say or even think to be absolute, because when it come down to it the 3 factors that drive their personality might have at time different strength to their pull, one day instinct lead, another day emotions lead, and again a day come when the intellect lead. How many women that swore off having children suddenly in their late 30s or early 40s suddenly crave having a child, intellectually they might not have wanted them, emotionally they might not have wanted them, but when instincts start screaming 'YOU WANT A CHILD' their isn't much they can argue about.

Oh and all of that is without accounting for compromises, people can compromise over their thoughts and beliefs for the sake of keeping peace, married people have to do that in many cases, so whatever they think or believe doesn't matter if they make a compromise over keeping their marriage stable and peaceful.

 

[Yabba]

So for me -i dont know anyone on here so maybe i can explain how this story is affecting me...

It has given me severe anxiety ,heart palpitations and taken my brain to places i did not want to go,,,ie my past

I havnt met a Lacey (thank christ) but i did meet and marry a beautiful girl that i put 100% of my heart and soul into - I gave her every part of me - I was young, naive and just thought "thats it we are married " lets get old etc .

But that did not happen lets just say i got a 100% mind fuck for months ,getting my life to a point that all i could do was leave , because she didnt want me anymore and yes she cheated - it crucified me and i nearly killed myself ..i hurt like nothing i had ever encounterd up that point in my life and it has affected the rest of my life to a severe degree.

So im using the game as a tool to try and get to why it makes me feel the way i do and yes its crushing but its made me ask the simple question -why did she do that ?

So thank you Proffesor you have helped me look into my very hurtful past and helped me try to reflect and come to terms with it--because believe me folks we all bury that shit so deep ...

 

[Lady Lydia]

So for me -i dont know anyone on here so maybe i can explain how this story is affecting me...

It has given me severe anxiety ,heart palpitations and taken my brain to places i did not want to go,,,ie my past

I havnt met a Lacey (thank christ) but i did meet and marry a beautiful girl that i put 100% of my heart and soul into - I gave her every part of me - I was young, naive and just thought "thats it we are married " lets get old etc .

But that did not happen lets just say i got a 100% mind fuck for months ,getting my life to a point that all i could do was leave , because she didnt want me anymore and yes she cheated - it crucified me and i nearly killed myself ..i hurt like nothing i had ever encounterd up that point in my life and it has affected the rest of my life to a severe degree.

So im using the game as a tool to try and get to why it makes me feel the way i do and yes its crushing but its made me ask the simple question -why did she do that ?

So thank you Proffesor you have helped me look into my very hurtful past and helped me try to reflect and come to terms with it--because believe me folks we all bury that shit so deep ...

I am sorry for you having suffered so, I never have suffered such a situation, however I am pretty sure unless the Prof finally cut down on the drama next Act I might actually develop PTSD from this game, or something... their is a good reason I am saying most people arguing here are probably suffering from something akin to Stockholm Syndrome, and that wasn't really a joke, so I am not sure this might be the healthiest game or place to try to figure it out.

As for why your ex cheated on you, it could be sadism, it could be she felt something was missing in your relationship, it could be she had some kink that drove her cheating, maybe she had some emotional background with said person, like Lacey maybe she liked the notion of making you jealous, or she might just like the notion of cheating.

Obviously its hard to say without knowing her, but their are all sorts of potential reasoning or emotions that could have played into it, frankly I'll doubt you'll ever figure it out without ever reaching out to her and trying to talk it out, but then again she might lie to deflect the blame, so that is by no mean an absolute solution, if you can't fathom talking to her and if you know someone that could act as an intermediary to talk to her in your stead, you could ask them, maybe even a third party looking into it could bring some external insight.

 

[WannabeShady90]

I haven't. Where could I find it?



I honestly don't remember the MC cheating on Lacey in my runthrough. Was this choice-dependent?

As the player I refused every offer from every woman when the dev allowed me; I even opt out of sexting when the dev finally allows it. When I'm allowed to choose what the MC says, I choose the option that is most harmful to any relationship with that female NPC--I am avoiding allowing the MC to do anything (even flirting) with NPCs.

It annoyed me, frankly, that I was not allowed to have MC refuse Anna because I think anything Lacey suggests is "good" for the MC really isn't (note: I openly admit my blindspot when it comes to Lacey so there's no need to shame me over it). And, as I recall, Lacey directed the whole MC-Anna event so I don't consider that cheating. I freely admit I do not like it but that was more like sharing than cheating, if only IMO. Not only was it insensitive to the MC (playing on his feelings for Anna) but it was pretty harmful to Anna, too, because I don't think she saw that event as shallow meaningless sex.



I doubt it. I ask the same questions about the MC and I don't expect things to improve for him, either. This story has me conditioned to hate it when good apparently happy/positive things happen because I expect it's only the set-up for the MC (and the reader) to have our hopes dashed yet again when the inevitable bad thing happens. Often, but not always, orchestrated by Lacey.



Every time I read where someone says Lacey has grown... this is what I keep coming back to. It also reinforces why I believe the MC needs to leave all these people behind (note: not the way we ended Act 3, BTW) and go somewhere out of their reach/contact to seek some serious therapy and healing; perhaps in-patient for a bit? Yes, I know he is codependent but I don't see how the MC ever will benefit (really) from therapy when he returns to his loony-bin of a life after each session where the NPCs break him again by their attempts to "help" him. And I recognize the dev never will write his story that way so...



I took it that she wanted for the MC to sleep around to desensitize him to her sleeping around ("see, it doesn't hurt anything" or "since you can do it I can do it, too") but again I have to recognize that I'm hard-coded by the dev to seek and expect the worst from Lacey, Mia, and most of the NPCs. If you feel Lacey has a guilty conscience then that suggests to me that she recognizes that what she did was cheating so it's not just the reader's bias... but when someone tells us to do something (not shouted in rage) then we have to accept they meant that, don't we? Otherwise I'm back to not being able to accept or believe anything I read in the story.



And this, more than anything, is why I have the MC refuse every woman in the game. I think it also explains why Lacey seems more jealous when a woman she does not control is hitting on the MC vs. the NPCs she can direct. It's why I resist the harem option under the "no fun" route; it's not because of the MC's undying devotion to his wife, it's because I don't want to see him further manipulated by her and the NPCs.



I wouldn't say Lacey granted it as much as Lacey ordered it.



Did these happen on all routes? I don't remember them (not saying they didn't happen; I just don't remember). To be fair, I refused everything with Bethany (no TV date, nothing) and I did skip/FF through much of the story on my first playthrough due to my frustration so I could have missed some forced events.



That could be the title of the next Act.

Why are you so devoted to Lacey though? Literally any relationship with any girl (or even that boy) maybe aside from Mia would result in a healthier relationship. I openly admitted that I'm on #ShipAnna but I would be okey with almost any other girl as well. As for the cheating part:
01.) I didn't choose to be with Lacey. It was forced upon me. If I could break up, that's the first thing I would do. Is it cheating if I am literally forced into a relationship I do not want to have?
02.) Lacey cheated first.

What actually bothers me is that Captain SaveAHoe only interacts with Anna on a sexual level because Lacey makes him do it. In that regard, I see some progress in the writing though, because during the Birthday scene you can actually decide how far you want to go (needless to say I went as far as I could go) and Captain SaveAHoe says more openly that he loves Anna, eventhough he still hides behind the "Friendship" mask. That's just bad writing though. Who would give passionate kisses to his "best friend" and let her suck your dick while being in a committed relationship. I'm pretty sure Lacey said Anna could kiss him, not suck his dick.

 

[Yabba]

I am sorry for you having suffered so, I never have suffered such a situation, however I am pretty sure unless the Prof finally cut down on the drama next Act I might actually develop PTSD from this game, or something... their is a good reason I am saying most people arguing here are probably suffering from something akin to Stockholm Syndrome, and that wasn't really a joke, so I am not sure this might be the healthiest game or place to try to figure it out.

As for why your ex cheated on you, it could be sadism, it could be she felt something was missing in your relationship, it could be she had some kink that drove her cheating, maybe she had some emotional background with said person, like Lacey maybe she liked the notion of making you jealous, or she might just like the notion of cheating.

Obviously its hard to say without knowing her, but their are all sorts of potential reasoning or emotions that could have played into it, frankly I'll doubt you'll ever figure it out without ever reaching out to her and trying to talk it out, but then again she might lie to deflect the blame, so that is by no mean an absolute solution, if you can't fathom talking to her and if you know someone that could act as an intermediary to talk to her in your stead, you could ask them, maybe even a third party looking into it could bring some external insight.

Thanks for the reponse - in all truth this was 40 years ago so she may not even be alive , never had contact from the day i left to this day- one or two people have met her in the past and they told me she did feel remorse for the way it ended, but ill never know for sure. Just hoping ill get some closure as i work through my end of it . Ive spent today going through act 1 and looking at every line and making notes on what it makes me feel and what i think the characters are feeling so thats been cathartic and helped me not feel like shit when Lacey has her away night - ive come to understand she wants the MC not to feel the way he does -she just cant compute that this is a terrible idea.

 

[monkeyqueen]

ive come to understand she wants the MC not to feel the way he does -she just cant compute that this is a terrible idea.

Or rather she can't understand that her solution is a shitty one. The goal isn't bad - the plans are bad The therapist gets it: Dude needs to realize that HE fucked up when the kept the torch burning while she was in college. (and he does in the shark - remora discussion)

If he could just say "you had hundreds of men but you chose me" all the drama and trauma ends. But because he can't she keeps coming up with plans that do more and more damage. And then he turns to people - like Abby and Mia - that he shouldn't trust for help and they do more and more damage.

 

[Lady Lydia]

Thanks for the reponse - in all truth this was 40 years ago so she may not even be alive , never had contact from the day i left to this day- one or two people have met her in the past and they told me she did feel remorse for the way it ended, but ill never know for sure. Just hoping ill get some closure as i work through my end of it . Ive spent today going through act 1 and looking at every line and making notes on what it makes me feel and what i think the characters are feeling so thats been cathartic and helped me not feel like shit when Lacey has her away night - ive come to understand she wants the MC not to feel the way he does -she just cant compute that this is a terrible idea.

Ouch when you were explaining yourself originally I thought it was a somewhat fresh wound... bloody Hell its a wound about as old as I am... yea that is clearly passed the point what I said was a viable mean to get closure.

As for this game, well one point I'd add is that trying to get anything resembling proper understanding from it would be... problematic, I doubt most of us had extremely painful backgrounds to the degree the MC & Lacey had, so we fundamentally can't comprehend their reasoning because we aren't mentally broken to the point they are.

In simple term Lacey is a broken soul with an horrifying childhood and teenage life, that abandoned her platonic life partner to go alone to College, tried to fix herself, broke herself even harder in the process, was reunited with her platonic life partner, fell in love with him, lied to him about the extent of how fucked up her College years were, her best friend reveal it because she was likely jealous of the MC taking Lacey away from her, lied to her husband about the extent of what happened in College again, still had to contend with the fact her husband was very unhappy about the lies, try to fix him, fuck him up badly in the process, at a time somewhere in there tried to better their life but fucked it up again, pissed her husband off again, and more or less keep this pattern rolling from Act 1 to Act 3. Lacey's approach to problem solving could be nicknamed 'The Road to Hell', built upon good intentions but very much keep causing Hell to happen.

I argue some of her intent is likely to change the way her husband see things to make him more... compatible with how she thinks and willing to accept abnormal patterns of thinking & behaving as acceptable for her benefit, and his to some degree, she can't undo what she did to she tries to change him so he'll consider what she did acceptable, possibly to some degree also so she can keep doing things like it for her benefit.

 

[NewGuy2022]

Why are you so devoted to Lacey though? Literally any relationship with any girl (or even that boy) maybe aside from Mia would result in a healthier relationship. I openly admitted that I'm on #ShipAnna but I would be okey with almost any other girl as well. As for the cheating part:
01.) I didn't choose to be with Lacey. It was forced upon me. If I could break up, that's the first thing I would do. Is it cheating if I am literally forced into a relationship I do not want to have?
02.) Lacey cheated first.

What actually bothers me is that Captain SaveAHoe only interacts with Anna on a sexual level because Lacey makes him do it. In that regard, I see some progress in the writing though, because during the Birthday scene you can actually decide how far you want to go (needless to say I went as far as I could go) and Captain SaveAHoe says more openly that he loves Anna, eventhough he still hides behind the "Friendship" mask. That's just bad writing though. Who would give passionate kisses to his "best friend" and let her suck your dick while being in a committed relationship. I'm pretty sure Lacey said Anna could kiss him, not suck his dick.

If I am anything, it is decidedly NOT devoted to Lacey. Not even on a bad day. I agree that nearly anyone else would be better than Lacey, although with this story, who knows how characters will behave in Act 4).

My refusal of every act with every NPC is because Lacey is directing their efforts. By refusing them the MC is refusing Lacey because Lacey is trying to pull the NPC's strings. It's not clear to me why she wants the MC to have sex with other girls but I am certain it is not for the reason she said. Her pattern of dishonesty with the MC means I don't believe a word from her unless I've seen some way to corroborate it. Lacey manipulates the MC far too much as it is; I do not want to giver her even more control over him.

I would prefer a break-up, too, but since the dev clearly is more enamored with Lacey than with the MC and Lacey wants to keep the MC then... ...the MC is trapped even though remaining with her is toxic for him. The only way I can resist in this story is to say "no" to everything Lacey or her pawns offer. So that's exactly what I do.

 

[monkeyqueen]

In simple term Lacey is a broken soul with an horrifying childhood and teenage life, that abandoned her platonic life partner to go alone to College, tried to fix herself, broke herself even harder in the process,

She didn't break herself harder in the process - she (partially) healed herself. She finally got the image of her rapist father out her mind. Before then she couldn't even touch another man.

If the MC wasn't an idiot and an incel he would realize she did him a favor.

Once of the reasons the plans keep failing is she wants to prescribe the same medicine to Gristle but in this case what's good for the goose is not good for the gander

 

[DeviantFun]

She didn't break herself harder in the process - she (partially) healed herself. She finally got the image of her rapist father out her mind. Before then she couldn't even touch another man.

If the MC wasn't an idiot he would realize she did him a favor.

Once of the reasons the plans keep failing is she wants to prescribe the same medicine to Gristle but in this case what's good for the goose is not good for the gander

L "It didn't work."
L "Leaving you was pain."
L "And instead of becoming a girl who could love you."
L "I became... this."
L "I can't fix this one."
L "All I can do is say I'm so sorry."
L "I was wrong. Painfully wrong."
L "Leaving you was my demise."
L "I tried to kill myself so many times."
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L "When I abandoned him to go to school, to try and stand on my own,"
L "all that pain just became a constant battle to try and keep at bay."
L "It was awful at first."
L "And it just got worse and worse."
L "Until I could barely stand to be in my own skin."
L "I began to find ways to deal with that."
L "Sometimes it was listening to a recording of my future husband singing happy birthday to me."
L "I'd throw myself into my schoolwork."
L "Then I started drinking at night to help me sleep better."
L "Then I started drinking in the morning to help me get through my day."
L "And then I discovered ketamine."
L "The wonder drug."
L "And my personal hell on earth."
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MC "Knowing who we are, do you think it would have taken that long for us to figure out that painful sex resets your brain?"
L "No. We probably would have figured it out in a few weeks."

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L "Everything I did was wrong."
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L "Because living for four years without you was... the worst thing that's ever happened to me."
MC "Well, besides the abuse of course."
L "That isn't what I said."
L "I said, it was the worst thing that has ever happened to me."

 

[WannabeShady90]

If I am anything, it is decidedly NOT devoted to Lacey. Not even on a bad day. I agree that nearly anyone else (although with this story, who knows how characters will behave in Act 4) would be better than Lacey.

My refusal of every act with every NPC is because Lacey is directing their efforts. By refusing them the MC is refusing Lacey because Lacey is trying to pull the NPC's strings. It's not clear to me why she wants the MC to have sex with other girls but I am certain it is not for the reason she said. Her pattern of dishonesty with the MC means I don't believe a word from her unless I've seen some way to corroborate it. Lacey manipulates the MC far too much as it is; I do not want to giver her even more control over him.

I would prefer a break-up, too, but since the dev clearly is more enamored with Lacey than with the MC and Lacey wants to keep the MC then... ...the MC is trapped even though remaining with her is toxic for him. The only way I can resist in this story is to say "no" to everything Lacey or her pawns offer. So that's exactly what I do.

Okey, now I understand your reasoning. I think there are a few little flaws though. Anna loved Captain SaveAHoe even before she met Lacey. Anna's love is not dependent on Lacey. I will admit that Anna probably plays by Lacey's rules just because there is no other way for her to be with him. But - and that is big but - I'm almost certain that Anna would go against Lacey if the player asked her to. She has confronted Lacey on her own a couple of times already. There is also (at least) one person outside of Lacey's control who's even antagonistic towards Lacey and that is Kelly. I think it's no coincidence that Captain SaveAHoe always ends up at her place whenever Lacey fucks up again. I actually think Kelly would be a decent choice as well. She's morally aligned with him and they share at least a similar background. He also seems comfortable sharing his feelings with her. She's also hot, but that's a given in this kind of game. There's also Bethany, who probably hasn't even really appeared on Lacey's radar yet. So I think there are a few decent choices left uncorrucpted.

 

[monkeyqueen]

L "It didn't work."
. . .

Until it did:

L "I did all those things, because I just didn't care enough to stop."
L "Not because it felt good or because I was enjoying any of it."
L "The only tiny glimmer of goodness that came out of it was in the final picture."
L "Those weren't tears of a disassociated whore."
L "They were very real."
L "First off that jerk was way too big for me."
L "it wasn't fun, it wasn't mind blowing, it just fucking hurt."
L "So I was in pain."
L "The second reason for tears was because I had achieved what I thought was impossible."
L "I had disassociated intimacy from my abuse."
L "I could be intimate and not think of my father."
L "All I could think of in that last picture was I could finally come home to you.

 

[DeviantFun]

Until it did:

L "I did all those things, because I just didn't care enough to stop."
L "Not because it felt good or because I was enjoying any of it."
L "The only tiny glimmer of goodness that came out of it was in the final picture."
L "Those weren't tears of a disassociated whore."
L "They were very real."
L "First off that jerk was way too big for me."
L "it wasn't fun, it wasn't mind blowing, it just fucking hurt."
L "So I was in pain."
L "The second reason for tears was because I had achieved what I thought was impossible."
L "I had disassociated intimacy from my abuse."
L "I could be intimate and not think of my father."
L "All I could think of in that last picture was I could finally come home to you.

MC "Knowing who we are, do you think it would have taken that long for us to figure out that painful sex resets your brain?"
L "No. We probably would have figured it out in a few weeks."

L "When I went to college I became addicted to ketamine and had a serious drinking problem."
L "I became an awful person who did awful things."
L "I took so much that it caused some brain damage."
L "That resulted in me nearly destroying my marriage."

 

[WannabeShady90]

If the MC wasn't an idiot he would realize she did him a favor.

Thinking that seeing your wife as a sperm bank is doing him a favor is some next level copium. Might be weapon grade copium at this point. I mean if you have Jesus like forgiving abilities, maybe...setting aside the huge psychological damage that it takes to actually go through with this, they weren't in a relationship back then, but cheating on him in front of a camera breaking every single fucking rule...that's some next level disrespect. But let's face it, they've probably had the best sex after the club experiance, in which (if you let her) she had sex with yet another man that is not him. So she obviously still gets off by fucking around. As I've mentioned a couple of times - she is broken. She will never be fixed. There is no fixing people like her. So why even try?

"If you stare into the abyss the abyss stares back at you" - Friedrich Nietzsche

I've asked Gemini what it thinks the quote means:

• It's a warning about obsession: The quote cautions that prolonged engagement with negativity or that which you oppose can lead to becoming like it.
• It's about internal change: The "abyss" is often seen as a mirror to our own inner selves, reflecting our avoided fears, impulses, and flaws.
• It's a warning against nihilism: For Nietzsche, the abyss could represent the meaninglessness of a world without God, and staring into it too long could lead to despair or nihilism.

 

[WannabeShady90]

Sounds familiar, doesn't it?

 

[WannabeShady90]

It's a warning about obsession: Lacey literally tries to break him to become like her. Same as Abby and Mia btw.
It's about internal change: Lacey literally IS the fear impersonated.

 

[DeviantFun]

It's a warning about obsession: Lacey literally tries to break him to become like her.
It's about internal change: Lacey literally IS the fear impersonated.

L "I've told you I don't want you to be like me."
L "I... (sigh)"
L "...happen to like that you're intensely jealous."