Ren'Py Love, Lust, and Rock 'n Roll [v1.7.1] [FlinPaltwell]

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spl00sh321

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You both have made my day, because all I've ever wanted was to see an argument over best girl :ROFLMAO:

In regards to the endings:
First, I should bring up I made recently, because in it I talk about a lot of my plans for finishing LLRR, including the endings (to some extent).
There's a lot I haven't settled on yet when it comes to the endings. There are some things I feel strongly about, and some things I don't. I'll just lay out what I have planned:

First off, there will be multiple endings. At least 4, and at most....I guess like 12?
You'll need sufficient Love with the girl you like to pick the ending you want.

By default, there will always be an ending for a generic happily-ever-after with Stella. The band rises to fame, etc. etc.
I think I'm also going to have an alternate ending with Stella where you continue to cheat on her forever. Maybe if you had sex but didn't establish a relationship with anyone else, then you still get the generic ending (with some reference to "never cheating on her again"). But otherwise, you continue to cheat, potentially with all three (or four, depending on how I handle Samantha). In which case they'd each just get their own blurb, and I don't think the cheating would be super frequent.


You're in luck, that's exactly the plan for Kelly.
In all cases, I don't...really wanna do a whole wretched tearful breakup scene. It may be cowardly, but I think just leaving a note and running off together is how I wanna handle it for most people's endings. And I'm getting the sense that others feel the same way, which makes me feel better because I was a little worried about that lol.

But I think the scenes are largely gonna happen in real time, rather than being a retrospective. The endings also aren't gonna each be these super long affairs (no pun intended). I'd like a final, maximum-romantic sex scene for each character, but the rest of the details are probably gonna be, you know, a few sentences.

Pregnancy
What I am considering...is that for each and every ending, I just give you an additional choice of whether or not you decided to have kids. And if you did then yeah, the romantic sex scene will involve getting her pregnant, and I'd also like a shot of you as a couple with one or two of your kids, haha.

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So to answer the questions about Julie, I'm thinking her ending is a standard elopement with Flin (but probably a more severe cutting of ties than any of the other endings), however if you choose Stella's ending and you're with Julie, then I'm potentially down for the two of you to continue cheating together...and maybe I'll give that version a choice of whether or not you impregnate those you're cheating with, too.

Finally, mostly just for fun, I'm considering a harem ending. I think it'd make the endgame more entertaining as you try to increase everyone's love stats far enough. If I do this, I'll have a version with Stella, and a version without.
Unfortunately, as I said recently, no orgies. I'm not big on them, and even if I was, if two people in an orgy are related then that qualifies as incest by Patreon's standards.

How does Samantha factor into all this? Undecided. But if she doesn't get any additional content, then Flin got her pregnant already. I think...I'm leaning towards giving her more content, though. I may even work her into the upcoming beach scene. We'll see.

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Thank you both for the kind words, glad you liked the update!
Shame it won't be Julie happy ending, she's my favorite one.
 

FlinPaltwell

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Just replayed it. I cant wait for more! (but I will)
More is coming, I promise! I didn't intend for the beach update to be so large, but...man, I discovered 2 new techniques relating to jiggle physics (and I have never used any sort of jiggle physics before this update), and...let's just say the animation quality of the beach sequence takes things up a notch or three. I don't wanna oversell it, but it's been a notable breakthrough in my opinion.

I do apologize for how long it's taking, I wanted to be done months ago but I really don't like how my scenes turn out when I rush them.
Because you've been so patient, I'll share a low-res version of an animation from one of my patreon posts. It demonstrates some of this new boob jiggle physics stuff I've been working on:
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I'm gonna be straight up with you, there's still a lot that needs to be done. But it's way more than halfway there, and it will (once again) be the biggest update ever released.
 

rueudy

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More is coming, I promise! I didn't intend for the beach update to be so large, but...man, I discovered 2 new techniques relating to jiggle physics (and I have never used any sort of jiggle physics before this update), and...let's just say the animation quality of the beach sequence takes things up a notch or three. I don't wanna oversell it, but it's been a notable breakthrough in my opinion.

I do apologize for how long it's taking, I wanted to be done months ago but I really don't like how my scenes turn out when I rush them.
Because you've been so patient, I'll share a low-res version of an animation from one of my patreon posts. It demonstrates some of this new boob jiggle physics stuff I've been working on:
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I'm gonna be straight up with you, there's still a lot that needs to be done. But it's way more than halfway there, and it will (once again) be the biggest update ever released.
Could you please add Android in the next version? Please? (ㅠㅇㅠ)
 

rueudy

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좋아요, 누군가가 이 점에 대해 내 의견에 동의하는 드문 사례입니다.:로플마오:
저는 대부분의 에로티카가 항상 난교를 "엔드게임", 모든 것이 촉발되는 궁극적인 목표로 보는 것 같습니다. 그리고 마침내 그것이 일어나면 모두가 환호합니다. 이에 대한 두 가지 생각의 학파가 있는 것이 아니라, 압도적인 "난교는 환상적인 콘텐츠다"는 의견이 있을 뿐입니다.

하지만 3명 이상이 참여하는 섹스는 나에게는 맞지 않아. 그랬으면 좋겠어. 3P를 하는 건 재밌을 것 같아!

저는 얼굴을 맞대고 하는 섹스, 친밀한 사랑, 동등한 역학 관계 등에 대한 집착 때문이라고 생각합니다. 두 사람의 눈을 동시에 마주치고, 두 사람을 동시에 키스하고, 동시에 섹스를 할 수는 없습니다... 사실은 그렇지 않습니다 . 항상 누군가는 적어도 부분적으로는 제외되어야 합니다.
물론, 레즈비언 콘텐츠에 관심이 없다는 것도 도움이 되지 않습니다. 만약 내가 관심이 있다면, 그 문제 중 일부를 부드럽게 하는 데 도움이 될 것입니다. 아, 그렇군요.

내가 만들 계획인 유일한 하렘 샷은 모든 여성들이 플린에 알몸으로 누워 있는 재밌는 샷이에요. 가슴이 엄청 많아요.


mc 네이밍을 요청한 건 당신이 처음은 아니에요. 사실이에요. 하지만 저는 사람들이 소리치고, 비명을 지르고, 재밌게 말하고, 별명을 붙이는 등의 이름을 가진 캐릭터가 나오는 스토리를 쓰고 싶었어요.

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(공평하게 말해서, 대부분의 무작위 이름의 첫 두 글자를 사용해도 괜찮겠지만, "Fl"이라는 발음이 미묘하고 모음이 없다는 점이 마음에 들었습니다. 게다가 이름이 "Ben"이라면 여기서는 요점이 전달되지 않을 것입니다).

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캐릭터의 이름으로 변수를 사용하면 대화에서 많은 개성을 삭제해야 하며, 비주얼 노벨 세계에서는 이 문제가 너무 간과된다고 생각합니다.

저는 다음 게임에서 플레이어가 처음에 자신의 이름을 설정하고 다양한 변형을 입력할 수 있는 기능을 넣는 아이디어가 있습니다. 하지만 Love, Lust and Rock 'n Roll에서는 그런 걱정을 하지 않을 겁니다.
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귀하의 의견에 감사드리며, 게임을 시도해 주셔서 감사합니다.(와이)
[/인용하다]
You both have made my day, because all I've ever wanted was to see an argument over best girl :ROFLMAO:

In regards to the endings:
First, I should bring up I made recently, because in it I talk about a lot of my plans for finishing LLRR, including the endings (to some extent).
There's a lot I haven't settled on yet when it comes to the endings. There are some things I feel strongly about, and some things I don't. I'll just lay out what I have planned:

First off, there will be multiple endings. At least 4, and at most....I guess like 12?
You'll need sufficient Love with the girl you like to pick the ending you want.

By default, there will always be an ending for a generic happily-ever-after with Stella. The band rises to fame, etc. etc.
I think I'm also going to have an alternate ending with Stella where you continue to cheat on her forever. Maybe if you had sex but didn't establish a relationship with anyone else, then you still get the generic ending (with some reference to "never cheating on her again"). But otherwise, you continue to cheat, potentially with all three (or four, depending on how I handle Samantha). In which case they'd each just get their own blurb, and I don't think the cheating would be super frequent.


You're in luck, that's exactly the plan for Kelly.
In all cases, I don't...really wanna do a whole wretched tearful breakup scene. It may be cowardly, but I think just leaving a note and running off together is how I wanna handle it for most people's endings. And I'm getting the sense that others feel the same way, which makes me feel better because I was a little worried about that lol.

But I think the scenes are largely gonna happen in real time, rather than being a retrospective. The endings also aren't gonna each be these super long affairs (no pun intended). I'd like a final, maximum-romantic sex scene for each character, but the rest of the details are probably gonna be, you know, a few sentences.

Pregnancy
What I am considering...is that for each and every ending, I just give you an additional choice of whether or not you decided to have kids. And if you did then yeah, the romantic sex scene will involve getting her pregnant, and I'd also like a shot of you as a couple with one or two of your kids, haha.

---

So to answer the questions about Julie, I'm thinking her ending is a standard elopement with Flin (but probably a more severe cutting of ties than any of the other endings), however if you choose Stella's ending and you're with Julie, then I'm potentially down for the two of you to continue cheating together...and maybe I'll give that version a choice of whether or not you impregnate those you're cheating with, too.

Finally, mostly just for fun, I'm considering a harem ending. I think it'd make the endgame more entertaining as you try to increase everyone's love stats far enough. If I do this, I'll have a version with Stella, and a version without.
Unfortunately, as I said recently, no orgies. I'm not big on them, and even if I was, if two people in an orgy are related then that qualifies as incest by Patreon's standards.

How does Samantha factor into all this? Undecided. But if she doesn't get any additional content, then Flin got her pregnant already. I think...I'm leaning towards giving her more content, though. I may even work her into the upcoming beach scene. We'll see.

---

Thank you both for the kind words, glad you liked the update!
There are 'male' friend(Kelly's boyfriend) in the game other than the MC. are there any plans to add Swapping?
(With mutual agreement, not NTR)
 

beegemgeege

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There are 'male' friend(Kelly's boyfriend) in the game other than the MC. are there any plans to add Swapping?
(With mutual agreement, not NTR)
Im sure hell answer this but, even though I love NTR or even in this case netori, I think adding that would spread this game thin.
 

OleJackRipper

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More is coming, I promise! I didn't intend for the beach update to be so large, but...man, I discovered 2 new techniques relating to jiggle physics (and I have never used any sort of jiggle physics before this update), and...let's just say the animation quality of the beach sequence takes things up a notch or three. I don't wanna oversell it, but it's been a notable breakthrough in my opinion.

I do apologize for how long it's taking, I wanted to be done months ago but I really don't like how my scenes turn out when I rush them.
Because you've been so patient, I'll share a low-res version of an animation from one of my patreon posts. It demonstrates some of this new boob jiggle physics stuff I've been working on:
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I'm gonna be straight up with you, there's still a lot that needs to be done. But it's way more than halfway there, and it will (once again) be the biggest update ever released.
So far I'm quite certain all sex scenes have been internal finish.
I haven't seen any "admiring ones handiwork."

Personally, and I think according to others. There is less of a point to an internal finish if there's no admiring the results and/or subsequent pregnancy. And considering pregnancy is usually end game, I know I like to see "my" creampies.


Do you have any plans to illustrate creampies?
 

jetama

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So far I'm quite certain all sex scenes have been internal finish.
I haven't seen any "admiring ones handiwork."

Personally, and I think according to others. There is less of a point to an internal finish if there's no admiring the results and/or subsequent pregnancy. And considering pregnancy is usually end game, I know I like to see "my" creampies.


Do you have any plans to illustrate creampies?
You can't even see nipples what makes you think you'll see creampies?
 
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FlinPaltwell

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So far I'm quite certain all sex scenes have been internal finish.
I haven't seen any "admiring ones handiwork."

Personally, and I think according to others. There is less of a point to an internal finish if there's no admiring the results and/or subsequent pregnancy. And considering pregnancy is usually end game, I know I like to see "my" creampies.


Do you have any plans to illustrate creampies?
I know I'm in the minority here, but I'm just gonna lay it out there: I think cum looks disgusting. Chicks plastered in cum, or opening their mouths post-blowjob, or visual depictions of creampies with the cum oozing out - I truly don't understand the eroticism or popularity of it, all of those things make me soft.
As always, if you disagree and you really like that stuff, that's a good thing; it means you get to enjoy way more erotica than me! I'm not saying there's anything wrong with people liking that stuff.

My mind just has this very narrow view of what "ideal erotic sex" is. For me, it's one man and one woman who are alone, lovingly pumping, pressing, looking at each other and kissing until it all culminates in the guy releasing inside the woman in a simultaneous climax. And at least one of them is cheating on someone they genuinely love.
There's even more to it than that, but I digress.
Fuck with this formula even a little and I get notably less turned on by it. You'll notice every single sex scene in LLRR has these traits in common (with the exception of Stella's sex scenes, which lack cheating, but I don't get turned on by those. Those scenes exist to increase the validity of the relationship to make the OTHER scenes steamier lol).

Pulling out is one of those things that just feels...way less hot to me. As if it invalidates the sex that just occurred or something (which is ridiculous, but whatever, eroticism is often ridiculous).

I'm not completely against the cartoony depiction of a creampie with a white-out censored dick, as you often see in Korean manhwas (here's an example):
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But that would be for my next work, if anything.

So long story short, no, I'm not illustrating creampies in LLRR. But if it's any consolation, last month I made a "sperm cell fertilizing an egg cell" animation that will eventually see use.

I'm a softcore dev who makes softcore porn. My next work might push things further into "mediumcore," but I think my VN's will always feel much more softcore than the average visual novel here.
 

FlinPaltwell

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Where is the Update? When does is it come?
The short answer is: August, I promise.

I know I said a July release was technically possible, which allowed wiggle room for failure. For August, I'm straight-up promising we will see an August release. And I'm aiming for that to be quite soon, like within a week or less. But there are factors that make this hard to predict.

The beach event is completely done. Text, visuals, sound, even a new background song composed just for that event!

The essentials are close, but there are also some technically non-essential things that I'd just really like to tack onto this update before I release it (this always happens. It's things like "oh if I spend another hour or two working on this Julie jogging animation I could add it to the game and make her old jogging event a LOT cooler" or "Kelly's first sex scene is filled with the fucking oldest imagery in the game; in fact, Flin still has black hair in some of those images, is today the day I finally fix that?").

And then there's shit like the gallery, which I leave until the very end so I can account for all new imagery.
Not to mention playtesting, which I do every time, thoroughly, because I am a diligent motherfucker.

Anyway, I'm gonna take all the extra days I need to add whatever random stuff occurs to me until I feel good about it :ROFLMAO:
But I can feel it, we're close.
 
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