HTML Love & Vice [R14] [MakinWaves]

[MakinWaves]

Has the bugfix been applied to the full download or do I still need to download and apply it?

You need to download both.

Hey, I think I have encountered the issue with not being able to get clothing level 3. Bought all the available clothes and still no option comes up. Here is the save in case someone can help

Attached a fixed version of your save. All you have to do is sleep and she'll start wearing a new outfit for you to progress. Apologies for the bother.

 

[Magneric]

You need to download both.

Attached a fixed version of your save. All you have to do is sleep and she'll start wearing a new outfit for you to progress. Apologies for the bother.

Thank you for such a promprt response! Cheers!

 

[ARB582]

So i just played the whole game from scratch instead of loading a prev save to see the new improvements.

Love the new system to get work rewards with NTR off. But i think it doesn't show properly for club events, unlike office rewards i dont think you see the cap getting raised, like you have the jen event when you hit the performance milestones to tell you the cap have been raised in the office .

Now on NTR side of things, events that give rewards getting marked is quite convenient as now i dont have to try every single event and remember which ones i already triggerred.
But it doesn't work with Jen office events, there was no arrow mark on events that gave rewards. Also when you play the NTR events some of them give the rewards but you dont get the notification, you dont get Fund Cap +1 text near all the office stats.

Overall i had a much easier time than i had the first time i played the ages ago i think on R3 or R4. Systems have been improved which is nice to see.

But there is one massive glaring issue and that is Atonia's content feels like a slough to get through.
Let me explain.

1. By the time she is introduced you are done with most of the content in the game, especially if you started with the club job.
2. From when she is introduced till when you can start earning love and lewd points with her takes 16-20 office days, and since you can only work 4 times a day, its 4-5 weeks ie. 28-35 days. Just to start earning points with her.
3. And even after that her initial progress is slow, each office interaction with her gives 15 love/lewd points, to reach 100, its 7 office days and again it takes longer because you can't interact every day. Once you unlock her house it becomes much better.

 

[Aioto]

2. From when she is introduced till when you can start earning love and lewd points with her takes 16-20 office days, and since you can only work 4 times a day, its 4-5 weeks ie. 28-35 days. Just to start earning points with her.
3. And even after that her initial progress is slow, each office interaction with her gives 15 love/lewd points, to reach 100, its 7 office days and again it takes longer because you can't interact every day. Once you unlock her house it becomes much better.

You actually can go to work on friday, saturday and sunday, you just have to go to the office manually at 9 instead of using the shortcut button.

 

[ARB582]

You actually can go to work on friday, saturday and sunday, you just have to go to the office manually at 9 instead of using the shortcut button.

I think thats a bug/glitch and it only works if you started with the club job.
It doesn't work when you start with the office job.

 

[MakinWaves]

So i just played the whole game from scratch instead of loading a prev save to see the new improvements.

Love the new system to get work rewards with NTR off. But i think it doesn't show properly for club events, unlike office rewards i dont think you see the cap getting raised, like you have the jen event when you hit the performance milestones to tell you the cap have been raised in the office .

Now on NTR side of things, events that give rewards getting marked is quite convenient as now i dont have to try every single event and remember which ones i already triggerred.
But it doesn't work with Jen office events, there was no arrow mark on events that gave rewards. Also when you play the NTR events some of them give the rewards but you dont get the notification, you dont get Fund Cap +1 text near all the office stats.

Overall i had a much easier time than i had the first time i played the ages ago i think on R3 or R4. Systems have been improved which is nice to see.

But there is one massive glaring issue and that is Atonia's content feels like a slough to get through.
Let me explain.

1. By the time she is introduced you are done with most of the content in the game, especially if you started with the club job.
2. From when she is introduced till when you can start earning love and lewd points with her takes 16-20 office days, and since you can only work 4 times a day, its 4-5 weeks ie. 28-35 days. Just to start earning points with her.
3. And even after that her initial progress is slow, each office interaction with her gives 15 love/lewd points, to reach 100, its 7 office days and again it takes longer because you can't interact every day. Once you unlock her house it becomes much better.

Thanks for all the feedback! I'll investigate what you said about the icons, most likely what's happening is some of the upgrade tracking isn't initialized until you do the event itself. I'll try and rectify. The club not displaying the upgrade rewards properly was an issue I had a hard time fixing, which might be related to what you experienced. The UI also wasn't designed for you having a whole bunch of rewards dumped on you all at once. That part I might not be able to fix without a complete redesign, but i'll see what I can do.

Now the Atonia early content I think is because you have NTR turned off? When it's on, you get some additional random events that give you extra intel. I thought I had included extra gains if you had NTR turned off to compensate, but I can't recall exactly. It's another thing I'll look at. I can't actually really reduce the amount of time you are in conflict with her, because as it already stands you can miss out on some of the events depending on various factors.

I think that 100 point grind is largely fine, I could maybe up the reward in a couple of the events, but we are only talking about saving a day or two of effort. According to my spreadsheet there's 6 events to get through (if you are grinding 1 stat) which lines up fairly well with how many you have to do.

Now one thing that sticks out is that you were done with most of the content by the time you unlocked Atonia, which given her elongated early progression is not ideal. It might just be as simple as reducing the requirements, but pacing everything is something I was meaning to do towards the end of development. It's quite a difficult thing to tackle properly without having the whole game in place, as I could just dump a load of new stuff in over the next year and completely change that perspective. It's something I'll make a note of, and hopefully when the game is near complete I'll be able to start shifting things around a little and make it all work together better.

Thanks for taking the time to write this all out, it's very helpful!

 

[ARB582]

I think that 100 point grind is largely fine, I could maybe up the reward in a couple of the events, but we are only talking about saving a day or two of effort. According to my spreadsheet there's 6 events to get through (if you are grinding 1 stat) which lines up fairly well with how many you have to do.

Now one thing that sticks out is that you were done with most of the content by the time you unlocked Atonia, which given her elongated early progression is not ideal. It might just be as simple as reducing the requirements, but pacing everything is something I was meaning to do towards the end of development. It's quite a difficult thing to tackle properly without having the whole game in place, as I could just dump a load of new stuff in over the next year and completely change that perspective. It's something I'll make a note of, and hopefully when the game is near complete I'll be able to start shifting things around a little and make it all work together better.

I tried both ways with and without NTR and it only makes a difference during the investigation. I think NTR shaves off 3 days, which isn't much.

But i think you are right. I dislike Atonia's initial content because there is nothing else to do. It was go to office --> see Atonia content --> go home --> go to room --> sleep --> rinse and repeat. For other characters like Lydia and Mel they also have a somewhat long intro but since you have other content to go through it doesn't feel like slough.
I think it might get better once more content is added.

That was the only major gripe i have with the game, everything else is great.
Looking forward to the next update.

 

[Deleted member 5215438]

Best written HTML-esque (real porn) game out here right now. Enjoyed every moment I played, and actually got more drawn in to managing the strip club and climbing the corporate ladder than anything. Love the level of teasing and slowly making progress with girls, instead of it being instant. This is one of the first games with NTR that I actively employ people to play, since that NTR is totally your choice and not at all invasive. You can skip over it completely like I did, which is absolutely one of the best choices that could've been made (development wise).

Godspeed, dev.

 

[ARDATR103]

how to level up this

 

[ARB582]

how to level up this

Thats the prostitution stat for Jen.
Th easiest way is to take control of the finances on the lewd path, then jen will ask for money in living room at night. You can then ask for sexual favors for money.

 

[ARDATR103]

Thats the prostitution stat for Jen.
Th easiest way is to take control of the finances on the lewd path, then jen will ask for money in living room at night. You can then ask for sexual favors for money.

thanks, well, I made the stripper level 1, but I can't increase it any more, where do I need to increase it

 

[ARB582]

thanks, well, I made the stripper level 1, but I can't increase it any more, where do I need to increase it

Prostitution and stripper levels are 2 different stats.
Stripper max level is 1 for now, and can be raised in various club activities.
I dont remember the max prostitution level.

 

[ARDATR103]

i've already done stripper level 1, how do I find the intro event

 

[ARB582]

While working at the club, check under Jen--> revenue.
Thats where all the jen stripper events are
Instead of pole dancing you will see some other event like pole dancing training/intro or something similar

 

[ARDATR103]

While working at the club, check under Jen--> revenue.
Thats where all the jen stripper events are
Instead of pole dancing you will see some other event like pole dancing training/intro or something similar

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as far as I understand, ntr needs to be open so that I can see them, right?

 

[ARB582]

Stripper max level is 1 for now, and can be raised in various club activities.

Sorry about that, i got confused, that was for Lydia
For Jen to rasie it further you have to select training : start the real work.
As for NTR you need it turned on for VIP room events, i dont remember if its required for stripper events

 

[MakinWaves]

Wanted to let you all know that I'm having to take some time off to travel. I should still be reachable, but I might be slow to reply for a couple weeks. And I won't be able to do any save fixing during that time, so apologies to anyone this might affect!

Best written HTML-esque (real porn) game out here right now. Enjoyed every moment I played, and actually got more drawn in to managing the strip club and climbing the corporate ladder than anything. Love the level of teasing and slowly making progress with girls, instead of it being instant. This is one of the first games with NTR that I actively employ people to play, since that NTR is totally your choice and not at all invasive. You can skip over it completely like I did, which is absolutely one of the best choices that could've been made (development wise).

Godspeed, dev.

Thank you very much! Glad to hear I am handling that stuff well.

as far as I understand, ntr needs to be open so that I can see them, right?

Yeah NTR will need to be turned on for the stripper stuff. You'll find all the stripper training events there too.

For the prostitute stat you need to take control of the finances, then sell her favours. This can be done in the living room during the evening and should be marked with the money icon.

 

[Leanra]

Cheat bypass, put anything in the text box to enable.

 

[niceguy329]

Cheat bypass, put anything in the text box to enable.

Where did you found this

 

[AsuitedBoy]

keep up the good work m8, short on cash to support on patreon but sending good vibes here <3 thanks for the game.