SeveredRealms

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It is easy to cherry-pick stuff out of the script rather than looking at it in context. The MC is ok with his Mom seeing Gia for guidance in order to progress their own taboo relationship. The Mom wants to see Gia for reassurance. That you interpreted the section you pulled from the script the way you did suggests to me that you haven't actually played the game or don't understand their relationship and what they are doing at all.
Ahhh actually I have played the game and understand the relationship between the mc and Rachel. Gia's part in their relationship is also made redunant when Michelle also helps the MC with her. You are also later on informed how nasty she is and warned not to let her near your business partners as a escort... Yeah she is such a wonderful addition to otherwise great game with no choice to avoid her.. But hey at least you can turn down letting her son get involved.... or at least for now.... Considering this is a harem game Rachel telling her to ignore you being a main LI and doing it anyway is not a good play on the devs part.
 

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Ahhh actually I have played the game and understand the relationship between the mc and Rachel. Gia's part in their relationship is also made redunant when Michelle also helps the MC with her. You are also later on informed how nasty she is and warned not to let her near your business partners as a escort... Yeah she is such a wonderful addition to otherwise great game with no choice to avoid her.. But hey at least you can turn down letting her son get involved.... or at least for now.... Considering this is a harem game Rachel telling her to ignore you being a main LI and doing it anyway is not a good play on the devs part.
And that is the crux of the NTR-triggered problem. Some guys think those plot decisions by the dev that they don't like = NTR.

Why be hung up on the main LI stuff and not on the actual realness of the relationship which is always complex and negotiated? That adults make compromises of their own free will because the MC would rather have his mother, than not, and if she is comfortable with Gia, he will tolerate Gia's methods much further than you would. And yes, people do things that may seem redundant because they lack confidence and want to hedge their bets, often subconsciously.

I consider myself an NTR connoisseur. I read tons of NTR, I write NTR, and much of what many guys brand NTR on this forum isn't even close. It's really just putting a Scarlet Letter (via tag) on some games because someone doesn't like NTR or feels uncomfortable with the plot (hint: art is not supposed to be comfortable, only bad art is comfortable like action movies and Saturday morning cartoons).

It is interesting that it is always the people who don't like NTR wanting games to get tagged, rather than people do who like NTR demanding that everyone know a game has wonderful, sexy, realistic, and emotionally deep NTR.
 
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SeveredRealms

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If its tagged then people that do not like it can go to a different game. But when it is not tagged players that do not like it spend a bunch of time playing it then out of no where a forced choice comes in and no matter what you can not avoid it that is a problem to non ntr players. Those of you facepalming my comments and coming at me are ntr lovers so to you its fucking awesome you get a little something extra to those that do not like they of course get upset when its sprung on them. But hey only you ntr lovers count right..... the non ntr crowd are just the misfits to you .... ever think they say the same about you before you come in here jumping on someone with your all high and holy free cheating life.... so who is the bigger dick head in this conversation at tis point.
 

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If its tagged then people that do not like it can go to a different game. But when it is not tagged players that do not like it spend a bunch of time playing it then out of no where a forced choice comes in and no matter what you can not avoid it that is a problem to non ntr players.
Yeah, I've noticed that the people with issues over NTR like to punish games with the tag, hence the Scarlet Letter.

ever think they say the same about you before you come in here jumping on someone with your all high and holy free cheating life.... so who is the bigger dick head in this conversation at tis point.
Friend, your issue seems to be with infidelity in general. Bad news, you're on a forum filled with creative erotic fiction, and cheating/NTR is a major kink, enjoyed by thousands of people. People are going to write stories you won't like. That's life.

I don't enjoy incest at all, but you will never see me complaining about incest tags or games that feature incest. You don't have to be an anti-NTR crusader. That is a choice you have made.

Dude, there is literally no NTR in this game. You had to reach into the script to take a short passage out of context to claim it is. And you have to contort the story, while admitting that your real issue is with how the dev is writing the story, than with any actual NTR in the game.

People who like NTR are generally tolerant and open-minded about kinks. You rarely see the pro-NTR guys going around complaining about fetishes, or demanding tags. It's the anti-NTR guys who always want things tagged, and like your signature wear their disdain for other people's kinks proudly.
 

preglovr12

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If there's NTR in the game, send us a report, asking for it in the thread isn't how you should do it.

People who like NTR are generally tolerant and open-minded about kinks. You rarely see the pro-NTR guys going around complaining about fetishes, or demanding tags. It's the anti-NTR guys who always want things tagged, and like your signature wear their disdain for other people's kinks proudly.
Let me just say this is complete bullshit but let's end this NTR talk here.
 

indio68

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any info about update? thanks , i like this game but waiting for month for upates is killing me so many titles started on Holds
 

Zephea

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any info about update? thanks , i like this game but waiting for month for upates is killing me so many titles started on Holds
This was just updated on 6/19, I would expect several weeks to a month (at least!) yet before another update.
Rendering and writing takes time.
 
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Avaron1974

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why do people hate so much i like the game and the way its going if they dont like it their are plenty of other games to play
Some people like to be the only one having sex in a game and have it revolve entirely around them.

They don't like that most of the girls also have sex with other characters and that the MC's girlfriend is very sexually active with some of the other girls.
 

Shliven

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Some people like to be the only one having sex in a game and have it revolve entirely around them.

They don't like that most of the girls also have sex with other characters and that the MC's girlfriend is very sexually active with some of the other girls.
fair enough
 
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Spfjolietjake

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Idjits........
A truer word has never been spoken...

Any way on to a topic that really matters. What is with the stall in telling our baby girl we can knock her up. Why can we knock up J first!?!?

I want my baby girl breed soon... please and thank you :)

Seriously still loving this vn and thanks
 
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tanstaafl

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Playing through for the first time, enjoying. Good renders (Iris is so hot), the story top down isn't bad, though some of the dialogue could use some work.

The only thing that really bugs me though: Uh uh in English means no/wrong. Uh huh in English means yes/correct.

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Question what level of cheating did Krysten do with Henry? because later she is saying she a virgin!
most games like this cheating means sex! if not sex, could better clarify by writing line like "I made it look as if i was cheating on him with Henry your nephew to get even with MC"
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There you have it .. she locked lips with another and tongued away to make him think they are an item ... guess it was just 4 show beacuse MC never came back so she abbandonned that cheating tactic.
Question what level of cheating did Krysten do with Henry? because later she is saying she a virgin!
most games like this cheating means sex! if not sex, could better clarify by writing line like "I made it look as if i was cheating on him with Henry your nephew to get even with MC"
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How does that sound?
 

LionHeart 95

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There you have it .. she locked lips with another and tongued away to make him think they are an item ... guess it was just 4 show because MC never came back so she abandoned that cheating tactic.


How does that sound?
you know that is just your thoughts, not any part of script. so i am still left to my thought as to what does she mean by cheated on MC with Henry? is our virgin really a virgin in this story? because she speaks as if she lost it then later says she still has it. OOPS... I get it your saying the "The Immaculate Cheating" it was just the tip..... lol
 
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