This is something I alluded to earlier in the thread, the developer claims she hadn't done anything yet and later changed some dialogue to match but not this and it remains obvious what the original intent was. They're allowed to change things of course but it was a weird thing to lie about.
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Well she has tattoed in his ass free anal and bbc Queen whats more to say xD
Dev Man.... Looks like you need to scrap this and start over. I mean when looking at the Main page your ticking all the right tags Harem, Incest, pregnancy NO NTR. I was like SIGN ME UP!! Then i read comments and see Moms a WHORE Sis is banging BF already Then there's rap. I mean i also read you can avoid some or all of it but you gotta have certain points? to avoid it? Even if it's avoidable you still need to tag it. Incest lovers are going to hate this. And if your not going to put Mom and Sis into the LI catagory then WTF are they there for? Even if you decide not to have incest nobody wants to see their mom working as a Whore nor a stripper. We don't want Mom or sis around another dude. So many red flags it is sad. Also Sandbox is a bad idea stick to VN.
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it seems like this was the ORIGINAL INTENT but the dev tried to mask it since people complained earlier on but it's obvious that the mom is getting a filled stuffing even if the dev said she don't get touched..
BAD BAD BAD.
Imo the dev should just start over or completely and rewrite the characters.
first not making the mom a stripper or whore.
not having the sis have a bf.
Not having sofia fucking the maid.
taking out unavoidable sex like with the teacher.
stop the rape baiting with LI and tuning it down.
tuning down everyone is a lesbian/bi shit.
for a game with the incest and harem tag and claim "NO NTR" it's sure giving the ntr vibes
but aye like I said in my original post the dev don't have to change a thing, but if he want the incest or harem fans to play this game then I thinK changes are needed.. BUT ONCE AGAIN it's the dev game and he can stay with his vision. honestly he or she might as well go full ntr at this point since the game already got the NTR vibes and setting here because I just don't see how this game is incest or harem friendly. The dev can either take the feedback and implement it or does nothing and he or she is free to not do anything since it's his or her game. Overall all of my feedback is nothing but constructive because this game has potential but sadly it's ruined by typical tropes and ntr baiting and other problems.
you got the
fat loser mc.
sister who belittles him and has a bf.
mom who is a whore and a stripper.
sofia if she is a LI fucking the maid.
A LI who can be raped in killed if you don't save her.
for a game claiming no ntr but look at the shit that's already in the game so the dev might as well go full blown ntr.
honestly it's best to hit the ignore but I am trying to see what the dev has to say about this before I do.
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first time playing. liking the game and characters so far.
also, i see a lot of complains. don't know the problems you are having but don't be scared of putting whatever you want in it. if you don't put wrong tags or description is all ok. if people are saying there is something missing in the description or in the tags, add it. it's a porn game. no matter what you put some people will not like or complain. no need to hold back your story for anyone.
also, i see a lot of complains. don't know the problems you are having but don't be scared of putting whatever you want in it. if you don't put wrong tags or description is all ok. if people are saying there is something missing in the description or in the tags, add it. it's a porn game. no matter what you put some people will not like or complain. no need to hold back your story for anyone.
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Okay, okay, I get it. I wasn't going to cheat anyone, at first I was only making the game to release 1-2 versions just for fun, because I've been playing adult games for years and always wanted to try my hand at development myself. But then I liked it, I saw the feedback and realized that it was really better to move without the NTR theme and tried to tone down the prologue, since it wasn't the main thing for me, I was always more interested in fantasy themes. But 99% of the comments are just about "whore mother", like there's nothing else in the game... I just wanted to make a game where you didn't have to sit through serious love triangles, a game you could play with your "empty head". Now I don't know if there's any point in continuing at all, since the game already has a black mark on it, or I could certainly try to fix the prologue completely. Maybe abandon the game and in the future try to develop a game on Daz3d after I buy a new computer, as right now my power and knowledge is enough only for Chara) Sorry if I offended and disappointed someone.
aye I just think a little HEADS up would have did you some good..
if you just wanted to make a game for fun without any connection to the characters etc then maybe you should have said it and put it in the header of the description because what is the point then?
Like I said INCEST is popular on here and makes up 80% of the games on here..
also HAREM is popular as well. What honestly did you expect ? They see the incest tag 9x out of 10 majority of your audience is gonna be incest fans.. they see the harem tag and their is your other half... no one likes seeing anyone who is a LI whoring out, having a bf, etc. Just a word of advice.
This why writing and when you introduce character are important and you should ALWAYS be upfront about your game and the direction.
I say continue the game and do what you want, you don't have to change a thing or abandon it..
I do recommend just rewriting the characters etc and that will do your game some good.. also toning down the rape bait and lesbian as well and not having the mc mom be a stripper and his sis having a bf etc.. but you also don't have to do that either..
just stick with your vision but just don't expect harem or incest fans to stick around, simple as that. most of the complaints are mostly about the mom and sister... which are SALVAGABLE with some changes.. you don't have to abandon your story for that or what you want to tell. Not all VN started off good, alot had some BAD feedback but with some slight changes and adjustments it was saved and everyone was happy.
of course anything involving the MC's family
with the mom being a stripper or whoring herself out,
our the sis having a BF will cause controversy.
and change sofia since she is fucking the maid.
you can't please everyone, that's impossible.. my advice is to just either listen to the feedback and decide to make changes or not, or continue with your vision and be happy with it. Like I said this game has potential to be good but for that, the issues need to be resolved or not depending on you.
if you are new then this is my advice to you.
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You've actually called out the fans for incest, which makes the MC's sister and mother a major source of controversy. Few or none will want the mother to be a stripper.
On the other hand, I think the rape can only work if when the MC saves the LI nothing at all has happened yet (I don't know how it is since I haven't played). If, by the time the MC saves the LI, the rape has started, it won't please the other set of fans you're trying to get: harem.
In reality, possibly with small changes you can get the game to continue being the way you want and attract the fans you want for it: Pay attention to the feedback that fits what you want to tell, and ignore what isn't valid for your story. In general, if you listen to what your niche of potential fans (harem and incest in this case) likes, you can get a successful game even if it doesn't start well.
You dont need to stop making the Game It IS salvable you only need to change the prologue Scrap the mom working as a prostitute the sister whit the boyfriend and the friend that she can fuck other people but gets angry when you do It .
For what you said you where playing porn games and you want try to make one, well i f you being in this site and read the coments you should know how angry the people gets when you put 2 opposite genres in a Game and make It unavoidable or you need certain points to avoided It especially knowin how angry people gets whit the three letter tag and the worst IS you try to hide It people really dont like It when gets lied if you tell from the beginning maybe people dont get to angry
Well after all that rant dont get to discouraged its you first time making a Game nobody IS perfect a lot of games start really bad but after the dev takes feedback and start fixing things goes very well take deadmoonsurvival for example that Game start similar to this Game but the dev took the feedback remake the Game and now for me IS one of the BEST games un this site
Well IS your decisión in the end of the day
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Yes, it got off to a bad start, but the dev knew how to change the focus of certain parts of the game without changing the essence (changing the behavior of the mother, making rapes easily avoidable, making the lesbian scenes avoidable, etc.) and now it's a great game with a wide fan base. It can be a great example about how to take the feedback, to choose what the dev considers that fit in his game and to applie it to improve a game.
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Since i was one of the talked about the mom being a prostitute, i will say that i think.
You are happy? Go on, make the game the way you think, is your game, if you like the constructive criticism and want to put on the game, great, if you believe that what you are doing is enough, great, do what you think is right. People are talking about the mother because is literally THE FIRST THING that appear on the game (after the mc failure at the bus), they don't the the fantasy, or anything, the first thing is the mother being strange, and the first impression is what always have a greater impact on the game.
I personally don't like some aspects of the game, and i wish that some of the choices have more impact, for example, at first you have the choice to save or not Yasuko, that for me is an amazing choice that have real impact on the game but i really don't like the way that the mc treated her in their date, he treated her like a cheap whore.
For me i don't mind if the mother was a stripper and the mc "save" her from all that shit (holy knight save damsel in distress), but the first screen that posted was literally her being a prostitute and nobody (with exception the cuck fanbase) want your LI getting fucked by someone else.
I also don't mind the teacher sex, but could be good if some people don't like her that we have an option to avoid that scene.
Now the hypocrisy of all is sofia, she is having sex with the maid and get disappointed because the mc is not a virgin, that was one of the scenes (beside the rape at dungeon) that pissed me off, you can expect that from men from 1900 that wanted the wives being virgin.
And the last that i don't like was the sister and veronica, that the sister out of nowhere "hey, i'm bisexual", that don't work that way and was really stupid in my opinion (unless she was doing that to show herself to the mc, but she was masturbating when she was taking pic of veronica), also you can only tell to the sister that play by my rules if you steal the money from veronica, so stealing money the mc grow some balls? Also the scene of veronica and chow for me was a turnoff too.
Now, to the fantasy world, this is the best part of the game overall, i liked almost everything on this world, the only thing that i hated is the rape on the dungeon (not my cup of tea), where the choices that you make don't matter (just remember the choice with Yasuko), i understand that she don't have importance on the story at all, but why not just save her, she go to the city and never to be seen again, you don't need to save people so they can become a li, just save them and do be a piece of shit.
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Personally having to see a rape is enough to make me have no interest in the game.
If the MC behaves with all the LIs as you say he behaves with Yasuko, then my interest in him having a relationship with them becomes null.
I also think that being a stripper (without having any sex) can be a good start for a story in which the MC plays the "knight in white armor" who saves the damsel. The fact that she is a prostitute rather invites the MC to be... Well, in summary, we can assume that the mother isn't a LI.
Sounds like another non-LI to me.
This is another thing that doesn't sound good to me.
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maybe its me but honestly i say fuck what other people say or think make the game how ever u want and over time u will find people that like / enjoy the game ... u cant try and please everyone cuz there will always be people out there that dislike it no matter what
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i don't think any are actually added yet unless i missed something ... unless people are counting the few seconds at the club place when the one person comes out on stage
i don't believe anyone was telling you to stop your story. your story is great and you should keep telling your story. i love your game. what people are saying is they want some consistency. if you changed your direction from ntr early on to non-ntr and harem later on then that's fine, it's your story, but you should go back to past dialogues and address/change it to reflect your new direction.
not really consistent having the mom making comments alluding that she's already fucking other people at work before the story even started, having her make comments like having been properly fed at work while blushing and looking away, saying that the "animals" are constantly asking for more and more while also holding her with their "claws", then later on say that she hasn't fucked anyone later on and that she's just danced and nothing more. perhaps you can clear this up by having the mother address this dialogue later on in the story, like when she sees her son at the club the first time he's there or when he visits her to check up on her before the race. because as it stands, it's making the readers believe that she's lying to the MC
or the sister hating on the brother and having a bad boyfriend who's a terrible influence on her, constantly going to parties and getting wasted with her boyfriend, and expect us to believe that she has not already done something with her boyfriend. With her boyfriend never showing up and how little he plays into the story and with the new direction you're wanting to go with, you might as well make it to where the sister never had the boyfriend. because by keeping the boyfriend there in the story, it gives the vibes that you've already been ntr'd on the sister before the story has even started in the prologue. and that is not consistent in my opinion with the new direction of non-ntr harem you've chosen to go with.
as for Sofia, as others have said, she's a hypocrite. she fucks other girls and expects you to be fine with that without your consent or even asking how you felt about that but gets upset when you tell her you were no longer a virgin. if you want Sofia to be a hypocrite, that's fine, your story, but hypocrites are not liked by people in general. not really an inconsistency, just saying that people are not fans of hypocrites. so if you want her to be more likeable, you'd need to not make her a hypocrite. this can easily be remedied by having her either be fine with the MC being no longer a virgin, or having her not have a sexual relationship herself with the maid before the story even started. or perhaps make it to where when he returns back to his world, she is just so happy that he's safe that she no longer cares if he's a virgin or not and that he has relationships with other women.
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Well, most of the prologue is that the mc looks for a way to help his mother, besides that he dies for that very reason, suddenly the mc is in another world and always thinking about how to return to help his mother...I think it's normal that many talk about it.
I get that you don't want to make love triangles serious, but making all the characters either be some bitchs/sluts or bisexual to achieve that is completely fucked up. (when the mc ends up in the other world and every time he thinks about how to return, I could only think "why go back to that lesbo slut fest...")
I see no reason to abandon it, perhaps you should make some changes or tweaks.
In general, the idea of the story is not bad actually it seems good, but IMPO was not a good first impression, it does not mean that it does not have good things, most of the story in the other world was good (except the mc's attitude again
) and at least the knight, mage, catgirl and elf seem to be good LI (unless they are bisexual too..... )What caught my attention is that in the end the whole prologue seems to be useless, and the fact that the mc died in the accident leaves few options on how he can come back. (besides having a new body, no one would recognize him, or rather they would not believe him since who they knew as Mc died in the accident)
Ive not tried the game yet (its downloading)... But in this scenario. The MC needs to corrupt his sister, and then NTR or steal her from boyfriend whoever that was. Make him out to be pathetic in her eyes or turning her against him. As an extra bonus ^_~
So having a tragic/poor family start. This can work fine ), you just need to execute it right ^_~. I dont see anything wrong wit ha mother whos working as a stripper trying to support her family and if half fo the motive was her indulgence, then its ripe to be exploited by the MC. It would just require the MC having some balls to actually do something. To have the ambition to go after what he wants. Under the pretext he was a looser, then he needs to snap and change. or at least have an epiphany to change himself.
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That the sister has a boyfriend is not something that, in principle, bothers me, as long as we can get rid of him. Another different thing is that the mother is basically a prostitute.
Personally I'm more of romantic games where corruption works as a complement rather than as the main axis.
I don't like rapes, of any kind, done by whoever or for whatever purpose. If it's the MC who can do the rape, or has a chance to prevent it, I like to choose the option that it doesn't happen. If the MC can prevent the rape but I'm not given the option to do it during the game, it bothers me a lot, and it bothers me even more if I'm also forced to watch it (and even more if it's the MC who do the rape).
Generally the tentacles are used as a way to rape a girl, so it's something I'd rather be able to avoid (and actually I'd really hate if I couldn't avoid it if it happens to a LI), and definitely don't want to see it.