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[GifMeMore1987]

That would mean that their formula for calculating completion percentage is faulty - something that I've believed from the time it was first posted.

Maybe read what the

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"To properly understand progress in the bars, you have to take into account that not all tasks go equally fast. For example, 50% of the art takes way longer than 100% of debugging. Thus the total progress shown might be a bit misleading. So depending on what we work on each week, it might increase just a bit or a whole lot all of a sudden."

 

[csw]

Just wondering what's the difference between "script", "code" and "programming", aren't they basically the same?

 

[GifMeMore1987]

Just wondering what's the difference between "script", "code" and "programming", aren't they basically the same?

Q: Why do you separate between code and programming?
A: We refer to "programming" what we do to transform the text and images into a barebones chapter. This includes things like flags, scene transitions and point-and-click mechanics. On the other side, we use the term "code" to do anything outside the chapter. These are things like the gallery or UI.


Q: Does "Script" mean the classic libretto - the ingame text- or is it in any way related to scripting, and hence, programming?
A: It is the classic meaning. That is, all the conversations, internal monologues and narration. It also takes into account game mechanics like remembering previous player choices and giving the player options based on them.

Q: What is posing?
A: Posing is the work of placing the character sprites with their suitable facial expressions and other permutable features (arm positions, outfits, etc) for each text interaction they have.

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[Walter Victor]

Maybe read what the

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about it before criticizing:

"To properly understand progress in the bars, you have to take into account that not all tasks go equally fast. For example, 50% of the art takes way longer than 100% of debugging. Thus the total progress shown might be a bit misleading. So depending on what we work on each week, it might increase just a bit or a whole lot all of a sudden."

First off, I didn't consider what I wrote as a criticism, more of an observation.

Secondly, well duh! But what that means is that nobody, except the developer who knows the exact algorithm, can look at that chart and say with any confidence HOW THEY'RE DOING! Might as well just show the final percentage and leave it at that. Nobody here knows how long it takes this team to do Art or Debugging or anything else, which makes the chart interesting, but hardly informative.

I might also point out that the progression of the final percentages from week to week hardly inspires confidence in the predictions being made for completion. I sincerely hope the predictions are correct and not the weekly percentage progressions. During the month of October, we have gone from 38.625% on 10/2 to 48.38% on 10/30. At no time has any weekly improvement achieved 3%. Yet we are being told to expect a November release!?

Please note, I am saying this as a person who loves this game, and has supported the change of artists (and understood the problems caused thereby) since that change was announced. I want to see another release, and will wait as long as it takes. But I cannot realistically believe predictions of November BASED ON THE CHARTS.

 

[Ressxd]

First off, I didn't consider what I wrote as a criticism, more of an observation.

Secondly, well duh! But what that means is that nobody, except the developer who knows the exact algorithm, can look at that chart and say with any confidence HOW THEY'RE DOING! Might as well just show the final percentage and leave it at that. Nobody here knows how long it takes this team to do Art or Debugging or anything else, which makes the chart interesting, but hardly informative.

I might also point out that the progression of the final percentages from week to week hardly inspires confidence in the predictions being made for completion. I sincerely hope the predictions are correct and not the weekly percentage progressions. During the month of October, we have gone from 38.625% on 10/2 to 48.38% on 10/30. At no time has any weekly improvement achieved 3%. Yet we are being told to expect a November release!?

Please note, I am saying this as a person who loves this game, and has supported the change of artists (and understood the problems caused thereby) since that change was announced. I want to see another release, and will wait as long as it takes. But I cannot realistically believe predictions of November BASED ON THE CHARTS.

I never take these charts seriously because of some of the reasons that you already said, but more as an information on how the development is going. It's better in my opinion than a Dev just saying "yeah i've done this and that this week, i'll see you soon".

 

[GifMeMore1987]

First off, I didn't consider what I wrote as a criticism, more of an observation.

Secondly, well duh! But what that means is that nobody, except the developer who knows the exact algorithm, can look at that chart and say with any confidence HOW THEY'RE DOING! Might as well just show the final percentage and leave it at that. Nobody here knows how long it takes this team to do Art or Debugging or anything else, which makes the chart interesting, but hardly informative.

I might also point out that the progression of the final percentages from week to week hardly inspires confidence in the predictions being made for completion. I sincerely hope the predictions are correct and not the weekly percentage progressions. During the month of October, we have gone from 38.625% on 10/2 to 48.38% on 10/30. At no time has any weekly improvement achieved 3%. Yet we are being told to expect a November release!?

Please note, I am saying this as a person who loves this game, and has supported the change of artists (and understood the problems caused thereby) since that change was announced. I want to see another release, and will wait as long as it takes. But I cannot realistically believe predictions of November BASED ON THE CHARTS.

Thanks for your clarification, I did read too much into your post, especially the word "faulty".

 

[dolfe67]

I never take these charts seriously because of some of the reasons that you already said, but more as an information on how the development is going. It's better in my opinion than a Dev just saying "yeah i've done this and that this week, i'll see you soon".

I think progress bars are useless but it pleases some people.

 

[Walter Victor]

Okay, do you want to know how this TOTAL is calculated? Add up all the percentages and divide by the number of items (8). That's it! Since, as has been pointed out, a percentage of ART takes a much longer time than say a percentage of DEBUGGING, no wonder the TOTAL has been advancing so slowly.

Oh well, the team is being led by a fashion model and an artist, professions not normally known for their mathematics skills.

So, perhaps there IS hope for a November release.

 

[leg28]

So, perhaps there IS hope for a November release.

 

[Walter Victor]

Which would coincide with Lucy finally letting Charlie Brown kick the football!

 

[leg28]

ch1 was delivered 31.07.
lets say she started working on ch2 15.08.
it is 04.11. and we are not on 50% yet
so almost three months for reboot chapter and end is not near...

writing: 84%! it is reboot. 80% has been already written in original
there should be working style tag: idle, lazy...

prediction: maybe february 2023 (march, if you counting xmas & ny delays by dev or her famous black holes of disappearance)

imo, this dev is great example why some devs should be payed per major update, not monthly

btw... posing: wtf!?
i withdraw all remarks if she do that part via live streaming

 

[GifMeMore1987]

btw... posing: wtf!?
i withdraw all remarks if she do that part via live streaming

Posing just means combining the right facial expressions, body poses etc. with the text.

 

[dolfe67]

Posing just means combining the right facial expressions, body poses etc. with the text.

0% progress though? It should be part of code or programming, it's not DAZ.

And I'd prefer if it was her live posing indeed

 

[Geigi]

I guess she need to hire more people to progress faster, it will be a year until the game is where it's now, chapter 5...

 

[Walter Victor]

I guess she need to hire more people to progress faster, it will be a year until the game is where it's now, chapter 5...

Hmm, IF they release the next update this month, and continue on a 4-month-per-update schedule, catching up to Chapter 5 by next November would be doable.

Let's see if they can actually get an update out this month, though, first.

 

[misterbaobab]

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Okay, do you want to know how this TOTAL is calculated? Add up all the percentages and divide by the number of items (8). That's it! Since, as has been pointed out, a percentage of ART takes a much longer time than say a percentage of DEBUGGING, no wonder the TOTAL has been advancing so slowly.

Oh well, the team is being led by a fashion model and an artist, professions not normally known for their mathematics skills.

So, perhaps there IS hope for a November release.

What a funny thing is all these script, music and code stuff.
Why does the dev do all these again, if the crucial idea of remake was just to change graphics. Why didn't the dev leave all the same as it was and just didn't replace pictures in the game. What was the urgent need to rewrite dialogs, change code, and especially replace music, what was wrong with MUSIC?

 

[Walter Victor]

What a funny thing is all these script, music and code stuff.
Why does the dev do all these again, if the crucial idea of remake was just to change graphics. Why didn't the dev leave all the same as it was and just didn't replace pictures in the game. What was the urgent need to rewrite dialogs, change code, and especially replace music, what was wrong with MUSIC?

I can't answer to the music, but they decided that since their new artist wasn't squeamish about drawing sex scenes, they would add some to the earlier content and flesh out ones that were already there. New scenes (and a new character), meant rewriting the code. Hopefully, it will result in a more pleasing game, even if this artist's work isn't quite as appealing as the last one's.

What matters will be if the future releases have more sexual content, while maintaining high quality in all other areas that go into an AVN.

 

[fortuna95]

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Hi guys!

Sorry about not posting a weekly update last week. We're short on time due to the final crunch but we will post one this Sunday. In any case, we wanted to update you on these days' progress.

We've been working on exporting all new art into the correct format, as well as with all small color and design nitpicks of CR1's art (most backgrounds have been retouched, you'll see the improvement in CR2).

Designing a new way to structure sprites has been another thing we've worked on this week. Particularly making them more dynamic. Since we had to export them into the correct format anyways, we decided to retouch them a bit to fit your feedback a bit better. We've adopted a new way of making them and coding them into the game that will make things easier for the Posing phase.

At any rate, we continue finishing the last bits of art and script left to do.
By the way, we'll reveal Sophie's new design tomorrow, so stay tuned!

See you soon!

 

[NathanMagic]

It's been a while since I've looked at this game, but what's the reason or the change of art/story direction?

 

[SpyderArachnid]

It's been a while since I've looked at this game, but what's the reason or the change of art/story direction?

Simply put: Original artist quit, didn't want to draw porn, and told them they can't use their art anymore. So they got a new artist, which also gave them a chance to start from scratch and rewrite the story a bit to flow better.

So, the story has been changed up some, and new artist has taken over the reins. While it does set things back a bit, I personally think it is for the better in the long run. And the art still looks good, just a different style.