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Developer's Diary #75



Hi folks!

Now that player character control is in a nearly acceptable state, it's time to work in other basic systems: game data structure and UI.

You might feel some HnS2 vibes this time! I'm bringing the D.I.C.K system back to this project. It provides a simple but efficient game balance for actions / consequences. Characters will have their own stats, and you'll be able to collect pieces of info about them which will help you on your 'quest'. Finally, the old school inventory of items is also there.

I'm also planning to add some new characters / interactions before a new preview release. Here's the task list:

- Add a base "Pause" dialog UI
- Add start of Brooke's quest line
- Fix character animation structure


See you soon!
Peace !
 
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Developer's Diary #75



Hi folks!

Now that player character control is in a nearly acceptable state, it's time to work in other basic systems: game data structure and UI.

You might feel some HnS2 vibes this time! I'm bringing the D.I.C.K system back to this project. It provides a simple but efficient game balance for actions / consequences. Characters will have their own stats, and you'll be able to collect pieces of info about them which will help you on your 'quest'. Finally, the old school inventory of items is also there.

I'm also planning to add some new characters / interactions before a new preview release. Here's the task list:

- Add a base "Pause" dialog UI
- Add start of Brooke's quest line
- Fix character animation structure


See you soon!
Peace !
Looks very good, can't wait to test it out and see what it's like!
 

Fzoner95

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No. No it is not.
No, I'd say it's a coming of age story. And presented in a way that children can enjoy it, even if they don't understand every part.

Okay, let me explain. My incest fetish made me come to this site. It's only a fantasy, I don't have that fetish on any living relative. And also even if it was consensual in real life I still think it would bring a lot of problems and implications, especially mother-son-incest. That's why most games just gloss over the problems this would bring in real life. Occasionally you get a line like What are you doing, you are my brother! but usually there are no problems because there are none in these games, so why bother.
But from time to time a game does explore at least some parts of these "interactions" and what they mean for the people, their lives, their futures. And that does not happen during a sex scene but in between. So that is what I would call an adult topic without being explicit. It's totally possible to make a game or story that explores these forbidden and also really stupid relationships without being pornographic. And that's what I mean. That is why I think "adult" does not always mean nudity.
 

lolblue25

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No, I'd say it's a coming of age story. And presented in a way that children can enjoy it, even if they don't understand every part.

Okay, let me explain. My incest fetish made me come to this site. It's only a fantasy, I don't have that fetish on any living relative. And also even if it was consensual in real life I still think it would bring a lot of problems and implications, especially mother-son-incest. That's why most games just gloss over the problems this would bring in real life. Occasionally you get a line like What are you doing, you are my brother! but usually there are no problems because there are none in these games, so why bother.
But from time to time a game does explore at least some parts of these "interactions" and what they mean for the people, their lives, their futures. And that does not happen during a sex scene but in between. So that is what I would call an adult topic without being explicit. It's totally possible to make a game or story that explores these forbidden and also really stupid relationships without being pornographic. And that's what I mean. That is why I think "adult" does not always mean nudity.
No one is really saying all "adult" media has to have phonographic material or nudity to be considered "adult". IMO, when someone refers to something as "adult", it's referring to something that wouldn't be appropriate for children and most teens, whether it's excessive profane language, heavy drug use/abuse, graphic violence, or explicit sexual content or nudity.

Also, you example doesn't really make sense in a couple of ways. One: most people would say any situation that involves incest, weather it's graphic or not, is not appropriate for kids or anyone in general. Two: it doesn't explain why you think Love is Strange is "adult". While it may not be appropriate for young children cause it has some swearing and really mild drug use (marijuana), I think it's fine enough for anyone who's 13 or 14 and up and wouldn't specifically classify it "adult", more like "teen". It doesn't have incest like in your example, or any thing that would be "forbidden". I mean, unless you think love between two girls is "forbidden" love, then that's a different topic all together.
 

Fzoner95

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I wasn't talking about Love is Strange anymore but just the definition of the word "adult".
most people would say any situation that involves incest, weather it's graphic or not, is not appropriate for kids or anyone in general.
Uhm yeah. That was exactly my point. That is why games that explore those topics are not considered suitable for children. And they don't need excessive profane language, heavy drug use/abuse, graphic violence, or explicit sexual content or nudity for that.
No one is really saying all "adult" media has to have phonographic material
What a pity!
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lolblue25

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Uhm yeah. That was exactly my point. That is why games that explore those topics are not considered suitable for children. And they don't need excessive profane language, heavy drug use/abuse, graphic violence, or explicit sexual content or nudity for that.
But your point has nothing to do on why you called Love is Strange an adult game, which you did, after originally suggesting it as a porn game when someone asked for more LIS porn games.
 
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Fzoner95

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But your point has nothing to do on why you called Love is Strange an adult game
Never said it did, we changed the topic.
after originally suggesting it as a porn game when someone asked for more LIS porn games.
Well, I didn't factor in how strict some people are with LiS and it's games. That's why I wrote But still it's an adult game ... you know what I mean. Obviously people didn't.
 
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ashaik

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This is the kind of shit that we should be getting from locjaw. General updates on how either he doing or the progress of the game in development. Not general silence until he feels like popping back up again.
i definitely feel the frustration towards locjaw but to be fair he is a phenomenal programmer. I don't understand how someone can go months upon months without any contact though, it's such a bummer.
 
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lolblue25

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Never said it did, we changed the topic.

Well, I didn't factor in how strict some people are with LiS and it's games. That's why I wrote But still it's an adult game ... you know what I mean. Obviously people didn't.
I was always specifically referring to Love is Strange, and only Love is Strange, not the game it was based on nor any other game, and no one was being strict about anything. You originally suggested 2 specific games as porn games and all I did was correct you letting you and other people know one of them wasn't a porn game. I did that cause it would be a waste of time if someone actually went and downloaded it thinking there was porn in it. I still don't understand why you kept going on with all that "But still it's an adult game ... you know what I mean" Stuff. If at that point you were referring to more then just Love is Strange, then you should have been more clear. I never changed the topic and was always clear I was specifically talking about Love is Strang and not any other Life Is Strange based games.
 
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Fzoner95

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I was always specifically referring to Love is Strange, and only Love is Strange
Then this has been a misunderstanding. No hard feelings.

I just remarked that the original Life is Strange has inspired other games (porn games and others obviously) and gave two examples. And I think if people follow those links and look into the games they will see themselves what they are about and if they are the right ones for them.
I never changed the topic
But I did when I asked So you say that games without nudity and explicit scenes cannot be adult games by definition? Thought that was obvious, sorry.
 

The Architect

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Out of curiosity, how many preview builds will there be before an initial release?
Not sure yet. This project is very different from my prior games, so there's a lot of sub-systems to rewrite.
Also, this is planned to be less linear, making it harder to think in terms of "Chapters" like Goons Raid Her.

The idea of preview builds is exactly to make it clear when you gonna see some "semi" completed story lines, so you can decide if you wanna check what's coming next in the preview or just wait for a "official" version
 
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lolblue25

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Then this has been a misunderstanding. No hard feelings.

One thing that clearly wasn't a misunderstanding was you calling Love is Strange an adult game. You said "The term "adult" refers to the explored themes, not to the nudity" after I said it was a safe for work fan game. But, maybe for some reason you weren't talking about that specific game at that point like I was and always was. If that's the case, you sure do love changing topics. At this point it just sounds like you suggested games just because it was based on Life is Strange without knowing what content it actually had, lol. But, like you said, no hard feeling, I forgive you for your mistake.

On another note, I feel bad this strange (pun fully intended) back and forth went on for as long as it did and I do look forward to future updates on the game this thread is actually about.
 
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Developer's Diary #76



Hi folks!

A quick status update! I completed a lot of work on the UI information subsystem of the game, and now you can have a nice view of stats, items and characters pressing ESC to pause the game.

I decided to add the new save system to the list of tasks for the next preview build. It's already done and you'll be able to save the game anytime while exploring the scenarios in the pause UI. However, saving during cutscenes and interactions is VERY complex, so the function is blocked during these sequences. I'll work later on an autosave system to avoid repetition of longer interaction where the player can't manually save, because it isn't nearly as simple as my old GHR save system.

All save files and scene scripts I'm using in my systems are now fully open XML format. This will make fixing corrupted saves, translating and modding scenes all very simple tasks.

My last task before posting the next preview build is add some new characters and interactions so you can try the new systems with a bit more of content to explore.

See you soon
Peace!
 

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Hi The Architect
I'd be real, real careful here. Square Enix is pretty widely known for DMCAing and squashing projects like this. I got a warning for just doing on Unreal Engine 4 Life is Strange school level. I think someone uploaded it to YouTube and that's why i had to stop doing it.
 
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