lielie1212

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I think it might be a different character. Give me a bit to see what were missing. (cause usually doesnt it give you a list of characters names and how many likes/ love they have for you)

- oh its this guy
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Hes here I believe its from a previous update located down below. his definitely not my type

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Thank you! i need to unlock that. I read it was the location to the left circled. I was there for so long.
 
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I need some help how do i trigger Grushk event Too Incense i already gave him incense burner but i didnt gave him the incense lusti wont appear on the screen pls help
You have to craft the Lust incense, study it in your book at home then you'll able to give it to him but im sure you may get a black heart if you do.
 
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You have to craft the Lust incense, study it in your book at home then you'll able to give it to him but im sure you may get a black heart if you do.
I gave him the lust incense, I didnt get a black heart nore did the friendship go down - during your random encounter with him - sneak inside, then use the love potion.
 

omegasix9

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Can someone explain what the black hearts do under characters you can have relationships with? Also do I need any of them and can they be turned into regular pink ones?
 

daniaxxx

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Very true I've been waiting for the Tank and Scar story to continue for over a year now like?
Not sure if Hyao put that on hold for a reason or he just doesn't have a goal in sight anymore leaving players like 'wtf is this'
same here he been adding new stuff without finishing what he started i was waiting for more orc war storyline but he keep adding random stuff here and there
 
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Zorrscha

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same here he been adding new stuff without finishing what he started i was waiting for more orc war storyline but he keep adding random stuff here and there
Yeah I noticed he's only pandering to the furry crowd now, there hasn't been any new human or orc characters in AGES
 
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butterbuns

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The event quest haven't updated in a while. Namesless still in progress, the orc war still in progress, mythshore, northcrest conspiracy, all of those have been in progress while Hayo adds guest writing and tiny character events that don't move the story along.
 

strangecircle

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I know this Zoroj conversation can get very tiring but I think at this point what Hyao's 2 main things he needs to do is pay Zoroj do the CG's of whatever Hyao needs left of the Orc arc and retire him as the main artist. It's been about 11 months since we got any new content and its clear he just doesn't enjoy making art for LD anymore. I think Narram as the main artist is fine and I am insanely impressed in how much he has improved in the past year alone. The main 2 issues is that he can not draw humans well and we will get a lot more of furry island for quite a while.

I think as a replacement Hyao needs to hire a human artist who not only knows how to draw buff men but also enjoy drawing women. Because it's clear that Zoroj and Narram do not like to draw women and we still do not have art of the female bandit lol.

I honestly would have not cared as much about this if it wasn't for Hyao leaving us in such a big cliff hanger with the Orc War arc that I would at this point just let Hyao write and program the whole thing and write WIP for the cgs. And Zoroj's favorite thing to draw is orcs so if he still hasn't drawn the cgs yet that is saying something.
 
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nackedsnake

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I know this Zoroj conversation can get very tiring but I think at this point what Hyao's 2 main things he needs to do is pay Zoroj do the CG's of whatever Hyao needs left of the Orc arc and retire him as the main artist. It's been about 11 months since we got any new content and its clear he just doesn't enjoy making art for LD anymore. I think Narram as the main artist is fine and I am insanely impressed in how much he has improved in the past year alone. The main 2 issues is that he can not draw humans well and we will get a lot more of furry island for quite a while.

I think as a replacement Hyao needs to hire a human artist who not only knows how to draw buff men but also enjoy drawing women. Because it's clear that Zoroj and Narram do not like to draw women and we still do not have art of the female bandit lol.

I honestly would have not cared as much about this if it wasn't for Hyao leaving us in such a big cliff hanger with the Orc War arc that I would at this point just let Hyao write and program the whole thing and write WIP for the cgs. And Zoroj's favorite thing to draw is orcs so if he still hasn't drawn the cgs yet that is saying something.
Among all the things Hyao could do, "Women arts" is the last thing one could come up with lol. Why even bother??? No one cares female bandits have no art before, and no one will care after.

There's only one thing Hyao needs to do: Progressing the game, create substantial contents that makes LD as a game instead of fillers. Arts will come along if things moving forward.

Also, there's totally no need to Bring up ZoroJ to this "what Hyao should do" topic as long as we don't know what happened. He's a thing of past and Narram doing just fine.

Although Arts do bring LD above your average porn game, it's not the thing makes LD. If you just want art, go buy artist monthly art packs or do commissions.
 

Zorrscha

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I know this Zoroj conversation can get very tiring but I think at this point what Hyao's 2 main things he needs to do is pay Zoroj do the CG's of whatever Hyao needs left of the Orc arc and retire him as the main artist. It's been about 11 months since we got any new content and its clear he just doesn't enjoy making art for LD anymore. I think Narram as the main artist is fine and I am insanely impressed in how much he has improved in the past year alone. The main 2 issues is that he can not draw humans well and we will get a lot more of furry island for quite a while.

I think as a replacement Hyao needs to hire a human artist who not only knows how to draw buff men but also enjoy drawing women. Because it's clear that Zoroj and Narram do not like to draw women and we still do not have art of the female bandit lol.

I honestly would have not cared as much about this if it wasn't for Hyao leaving us in such a big cliff hanger with the Orc War arc that I would at this point just let Hyao write and program the whole thing and write WIP for the cgs. And Zoroj's favorite thing to draw is orcs so if he still hasn't drawn the cgs yet that is saying something.
It has nothing to do with ZoroJ not wanting to do the art it's the fact Hyao won't pay him enough and the fact he's better off focusing on his own patreon due to that
 

nackedsnake

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It has nothing to do with ZoroJ not wanting to do the art it's the fact Hyao won't pay him enough and the fact he's better off focusing on his own patreon due to that
My wild guess is ZoroJ initially was a "Partner" rather than a "Commission artist" for this project.
But then he had a change of heart / not happy with how LD goes / IRL demands, so he left the project - this happens all the time.

If it's just about "don't have money to pay commissions", they can totally reduce ZoroJ's commission amount, than letting ZoroJ leave completely.

I don't know how LD does financially, But I bet it does not make a lot of money. It's subscription is the cheapest in the industry, and despite people complaining the lack of progress, no one accuse Hyao scam people (at least not yet). Even if Hyao does not need the income to support his life, making games cost money.
 

Zorrscha

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My wild guess is ZoroJ initially was a "Partner" rather than a "Commission artist" for this project.
But then he had a change of heart / not happy with how LD goes / IRL demands, so he left the project - this happens all the time.

If it's just about "don't have money to pay commissions", they can totally reduce ZoroJ's commission amount, than letting ZoroJ leave completely.

I don't know how LD does financially, But I bet it does not make a lot of money. It's subscription is the cheapest in the industry, and despite people complaining the lack of progress, no one accuse Hyao scam people (at least not yet). Even if Hyao does not need the income to support his life, making games cost money.
Hyao always commissioned ZoroJ for his art but it's possible the prices have been upped or Hyao isn't willing to pay the amount anymore, can only really speculate at this point
 

butterbuns

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Hyao always commissioned ZoroJ for his art but it's possible the prices have been upped or Hyao isn't willing to pay the amount anymore, can only really speculate at this point
It could also be that Zoroj wasn't meeting deadlines and making art fast enough for the VN, same thing happened with extracurricular activities. Cursedmarked is not the fastest artist so it put a strain on both him and dyne since art was being made slower than what Dyne wanted which affected their friendship and partnership. Even with his own patreon, Zoroj does take time to make art and seems to be having burnouts and mental exhaustion, it is possible LD was so much demanding for him so he left.
 

Zorrscha

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It could also be that Zoroj wasn't meeting deadlines and making art fast enough for the VN, same thing happened with extracurricular activities. Cursedmarked is not the fastest artist so it put a strain on both him and dyne since art was being made slower than what Dyne wanted which affected their friendship and partnership. Even with his own patreon, Zoroj does take time to make art and seems to be having burnouts and mental exhaustion, it is possible LD was so much demanding for him so he left.
Sad to say I agree but yeah it's highly plausible that was the case, I will probably stop playing if he doesn't come back though since I can't imagine Gunnar/Scar/Tank drawn any other way and the story is being stalled to the point I'm just skipping all dialog to be caught up every update now. (Since I'm actually a patron of ZoroJ anyway)
 
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It could also be that Zoroj wasn't meeting deadlines and making art fast enough for the VN, same thing happened with extracurricular activities. Cursedmarked is not the fastest artist so it put a strain on both him and dyne since art was being made slower than what Dyne wanted which affected their friendship and partnership. Even with his own patreon, Zoroj does take time to make art and seems to be having burnouts and mental exhaustion, it is possible LD was so much demanding for him so he left.
Wouldn't it be better to find some other artist similar to Zoroj? Narram is alright but his art seems to need practice. Also, I heard before that Hyao was an artist or dabbled in it as well?
 
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Wouldn't it be better to find some other artist similar to Zoroj? Narram is alright but his art seems to need practice. Also, I heard before that Hyao was an artist or dabbled in it as well?
the only one i can think of is darkgem interms of caliber. He as other artists working on the game like Burb who does the item sprites and Gavel who does the backgroud. Again narram isnt bad but i do feel he doesnt hold much of a candle compared to zoroj
 
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nackedsnake

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Sad to say I agree but yeah it's highly plausible that was the case, I will probably stop playing if he doesn't come back though since I can't imagine Gunnar/Scar/Tank drawn any other way and the story is being stalled to the point I'm just skipping all dialog to be caught up every update now. (Since I'm actually a patron of ZoroJ anyway)
We don't have CGs for Gunnar/Scar/Tank do we? I mean the sprites are already there, I don't think it's impossible to just use them for future development - or any other already existed contents - you just won't get new CGs for them.
It could also be that Zoroj wasn't meeting deadlines and making art fast enough for the VN, same thing happened with extracurricular activities. Cursedmarked is not the fastest artist so it put a strain on both him and dyne since art was being made slower than what Dyne wanted which affected their friendship and partnership. Even with his own patreon, Zoroj does take time to make art and seems to be having burnouts and mental exhaustion, it is possible LD was so much demanding for him so he left.
IMO the reason they don't talk about it, is cuz it might make someone look bad / negatively affect their image. Hyao seems good at networking, so basically PR demands.
It kinda feels weird that LD just like a prestige grandpa that gets left behind and try desperately to catch up, but not on the right points.
When you think about it, LD doesn't really have any plots that deepen in, basically all stuff are just finished the "introduction phase". :unsure:
 
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