shinyboy64

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Well, yes, but also not really?
Did he really have to introduce the rat's world / garbage dump these last few months? It doesn't seem to tie with anything for now. We even got art and sex CG for rat king, while older important characters get nothing.
Everything is half done.
I get that you can't just develop only lizards or only Northcrest, but you don't need a thousand new creatures and places that don't seem to affect the story until 5 months later when he finally develops them.
I don't mean to be a Debbie Downer, but I was like Lustful Desires #1 fan in the beginning. I've been there from the start. I was a Patron and everything. But seeing the mismanagement of the game and pulverized story telling got me frustrated as fuck. It's like going to an ice cream store and only being able to get a taste of 20 different flavors.
We got to have a first kiss with the lumberjack after how many million months of waiting? A kiss! In a porn game.
So yeah, it frustrates me.
Oh god that is so truth. Months and months of work, just for get kiss by Logan? The fuck? Is this a freaking gay P.O.R.N. game of a soft novel?

ZoroJ is the only reason I play this game, if he changed Artist I'd ditch it in a heartbeat.

Hyao just fails as a game developer, he listens to randoms on discord and fked the story accordingly.
That is the other, stupid Discord "help" did ruin the game, now it is only a shadow of what it was and with the save data purge, it just turn it worst.
 
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alexxxx000

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Fan listen the author is a human too he have his own problems like work or private life. Plus the problem maybe lies in that what only zoroj do arts for game hyao should just use other artists but without the latter that will be no longer the same ld that we remember
What's the problem with only Zoroj doing the art? Hyao commissions them and he is the one who picks what's doing to be created.
I know Hyao is only human and I still enjoy the game, but it really has gone downhill this last year
 

perles75

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I still enjoy the game quite a lot because it's rather uniquely written, in my opinion, and presents interesting and exciting situations. I agree, thought, that I would have avoided some parts (I'm among those who didn't really feel the need of the whole junkyard part, but I guess he wanted to develop it to put the furry part, of which he's a fan, in the game) or at least focused more on the main storylines.
I don't feel it's out of control, though.

Also, I like the drawing style a lot, mixing with another artist would not be the way to go IMO.
 
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sagoh

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What's the problem with only Zoroj doing the art? Hyao commissions them and he is the one who picks what's doing to be created.
I know Hyao is only human and I still enjoy the game, but it really has gone downhill this last year
I really like this game, the potential it has, and the art/writing. But yeah, the situation with Logan and other characters is frustrating. Lately, he only adds content on the Guest Characters, I think these are written by other people so that would mean is the other ones that actually do the work and he's slacking? But idk.


The game has focused on other things, and the quest line has been progressing (the cave, Northcrest, etc) but i'd like to see more progress on the characters paths that we already have, but I feel like I'm not in a spot to talk and complain since I'm no even a patreon and I'm getting the game for free :(

I don't know whats up with the Discord help you mentioned that "ruined" the game, if you could explain? I'm curious.
 

Shawkfrost

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Oct 17, 2019
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It's better if he worked on the whole story for a month or two. This is supposed to be his story, his vision. The game is still missing its identity for how long now. There's nothing wrong with being ambitious by doing flashy things like the combat system and the crafting system because at the end of the day, they're just set pieces just so your visual novel doesn't feel empty. There's a furry vn game (I forgot the name) where until now, the story isn't finished yet. People just lost interest cause the story is going nowhere and the updates were so small.
 

Shawkfrost

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I really like this game, the potential it has, and the art/writing. But yeah, the situation with Logan and other characters is frustrating. Lately, he only adds content on the Guest Characters, I think these are written by other people so that would mean is the other ones that actually do the work and he's slacking? But idk.


The game has focused on other things, and the quest line has been progressing (the cave, Northcrest, etc) but i'd like to see more progress on the characters paths that we already have, but I feel like I'm not in a spot to talk and complain since I'm no even a patreon and I'm getting the game for free :(

I don't know whats up with the Discord help you mentioned that "ruined" the game, if you could explain? I'm curious.
It really has potential but I think he handles the coding aspect as well so that might be the answer or maybe he hit a wall of writer's block so maybe that's the reason he wants to fix the coding aspect shit.

The storyline is just a mess because it's going in multiple directions. The OG characters do lack some romance storyline but it's better if he works on their story since he created them.
 

alexxxx000

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I don't know whats up with the Discord help you mentioned that "ruined" the game, if you could explain? I'm curious.
Wasn't me who mentioned the Discord channel, but as far as I'm aware, there's a Discord channel for Patrons where people discuss the game with Hyao, giving him ideas, feedback, etc.
I've seen people blaming Discord for the way things are, but I dunno if that's really the problem.
At the end of the day, it's his game and his decision.
 

Zorrscha

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I personally think Hyao doesn't have a story to go on anymore so maybe his fishing for ideas from randoms since he's uncreative.
 

SPACE!man

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To the people talking about the story, believe me when I say stories are a shitstorm. I mean, I tried coding a dating sim: I had the beginning, I had the ends, I had several big plot points and sex/romance scenes planned.... But lacked filler, so had like 10% of a plot at best.

With an RPG, you've got interlocking characters, relationships, stats, it's a cluster fuck. So, yes, he may not be focusing on the main story but can you blame him? He's got more work to do than you think, especially if he starts including variables like "if [relationship] is [number] then = if [stat] is [number] than:" kinda stuff.

Give the guy a break, he's just slopping in what he can do quickly. Plots are a bitch even when they're linear, nevermind when they're branching. Enjoy the porn, crush on the characters, and just be patient. You want rushed work, go find the various match-3 or slider puzzle porn games out there, cos that shit is ten a penny.
 

sagoh

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To the people talking about the story, believe me when I say stories are a shitstorm. I mean, I tried coding a dating sim: I had the beginning, I had the ends, I had several big plot points and sex/romance scenes planned.... But lacked filler, so had like 10% of a plot at best.

With an RPG, you've got interlocking characters, relationships, stats, it's a cluster fuck. So, yes, he may not be focusing on the main story but can you blame him? He's got more work to do than you think, especially if he starts including variables like "if [relationship] is [number] then = if [stat] is [number] than:" kinda stuff.

Give the guy a break, he's just slopping in what he can do quickly. Plots are a bitch even when they're linear, nevermind when they're branching. Enjoy the porn, crush on the characters, and just be patient. You want rushed work, go find the various match-3 or slider puzzle porn games out there, cos that shit is ten a penny.
Yeah I don't think is fair to say that he's slacking or uncreative, etc; the story is going forwards and it shows, he's been adding content of what he can do. The thing is the only progress (character-wise) we're getting is from Guest writers and some minor events, and pointing to that is not a lie.
 
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sikaka

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PC Release


PART 1: CONTENT

Bareshade:

  • Bareshade’s Improvement: More houses (Added to quest log)
  • New conversation with Bernard (You need to sleep with both him and Caleb to unlock this)
  • New event with Caleb when entering the old barn (After the new conversation with Bernard, there’s 50% chance for this to happen)
Home:

  • Holiday’s Gift, including another krampus statuette (If you have two, there’s a chance for a new scene at home)
PART 2: VISUAL ASPECTS

Zoroj made some new addition to the game:

  • Caleb alt
There are some stuff from Gavel too:

  • Underground tunnels (two versions – one under the bar, the other for all the rest)
PART 3: BUG FIXES AND CHANGES

  • Some minor fixes here and there
 

PlasticDoll

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Jul 9, 2020
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Is there an apk version of .26? I kept going back pages but I can't find any or maybe I just didn't go back enough? ): if someone knows the link, please!
 

FugginDamaged

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also if you just wanna jerk off go watch some porn, this is a storytelling game, yes the rat kingdom doesn't have much connection to the other characters but they might in the future, and even if the rats stay separated that's not a problem too. Creating the game and the branches takes time, I been here since update 0.17 and I don't have complaints, he's always putting updates monthly, and little by little you get to see the character.
Logan has 2 routes, the now where you can watch he get fucked without emotional connections and the one where he is slowly falling in love, he just lost his wife to the fucking wolves for christ sakes give the poor guy a break to heal from that
 

nackedsnake

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Are we already on the new save system? Haven't played for couple of patches now, want to start after new saves are in place.
 

Zorrscha

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Yeah I don't think is fair to say that he's slacking or uncreative, etc; the story is going forwards and it shows, he's been adding content of what he can do. The thing is the only progress (character-wise) we're getting is from Guest writers and some minor events, and pointing to that is not a lie.
Right let's check the main story notes; Town was attacked by bandits, we found out Scar isn't a complete ass. That's it. Hardly substantial story for the time it's been released for.

ZoroJ is basically the selling point of the game, is that incorrect at this point?
 

sagoh

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Oct 29, 2020
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Are we already on the new save system? Haven't played for couple of patches now, want to start after new saves are in place.
It's not implemented yet, probably in March.

Right let's check the main story notes; Town was attacked by bandits, we found out Scar isn't a complete ass. That's it. Hardly substantial story for the time it's been released for.

ZoroJ is basically the selling point of the game, is that incorrect at this point?
Hmm, well the Bandit questline transformed into the Northcrest's one... We had the orcs camp that is being developed, the mediation between the captain Everett and Korg, we had the Northcrest expansions update, and advancement on the Lizard's ques line too... So yeah, I understand that's being given drop by drop but saying that it hasn't been moving isn't fair either.
 

Passerby2010

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I have a idea lets write our wishes to hyao on twitter and for Logan romance and draw cute art with it. I dream about valentine event with logan when u feed him and he blushes then u tease him and he became angry for a moment angrily eat chocolate trow his axe away press u against the wall with his muscle hands around both sides of you and stares at you with his red eyes like two red candies but within that stare u can see eyes of predator that longs for his prey.then he became blushed again while forcefully kissing. You can feel taste of milk chocolate in your mouth as well as Logan's tongue that caresses against your own and his strong warm hands that slowly grope parts of your body undressing you. You was so intoxicated by that kiss that barely noticed a huge bulge against your skin and you decided to tease him again by grouping his cock and while you u hear a his husky groan but suddenly he ends kiss and you can't react in time and fall on your knees while you take your breath he frees his mighty sword that slaps your face leaving drops of pre-cum he slaps your face with his huge banana and tells Little naughty kitten i have a valentine gift you too here you can enjoy it.
 
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