VN Unity Mad Turn [S2 v0.3] [DonDimon]

[shanarc]

Well,first of all - if you don't remember it,Anna already has sex with Ramon before she find that Ramon and Matt know each other and before to start training him! Second - like i already say,she is only helping him,because she feels bad for him,but nothing more than that and only because she agree and decide to help and train him,this odesn't mean she need to stop be a slut and to not keep fucking with Ramon! She can train him,but she can keep fucking with everyone who she want,even with his enemy and Matt can't do anything about that - this is not a betrayal!
If you can't understand it,then may be i should try to ask you that: If you are fucking with someone who you like and who is satisfying you realy good and later you agree to help someone else with some task,but find that the one who is fucking you is his enemy,will you stop fucking that one who is pleasing you so good every time,only because you agree to help the next one and because he will not feel good if he finds out you are fucking his enemy? I think i know the answer - the answer is "NO" !

Not taking sides here but I think both of yours playthrough's are different. Because in mine Anna never slept with Ramon before meeting Mike. Also in my playthrough Anna initially rejected Ramon when she was returning from the gym and now she just slept with him forgetting everything that happened in between. So I feel like those who didn't go the complete ntr storyline feel Mike was betrayed which is kinda true.

 

[LoveWhores]

Not taking sides here but I think both of yours playthrough's are different. Because in mine Anna never slept with Ramon before meeting Mike. Also in my playthrough Anna initially rejected Ramon when she was returning from the gym and now she just slept with him forgetting everything that happened in between. So I feel like those who didn't go the complete ntr storyline feel Mike was betrayed which is kinda true.

You mean Matt - there is no Mike yet! But i understand your point any way!

 

[Voland13]

It's not Anna who helps Matt, but Matt who helps Anna. Anna had dragged him into this. In the past, she has already lost to Chris and wants to take revenge. The last time she had sex with a blonde who worked for Chris, she lost her friends, her job, and left her city... History repeats itself. When Chris finds out about her, he will find a way to set her up and break her. I apologize for my English

 

[Alfius]

I love this game and story btw. That's why Anna's was a bit rough. I hope she can redeem herself. In my playthrough she did not sleep with Ramon before.

Ramon is a pussy. He cowers before real power like Chris. I hate Chris, but I can recognise real power. I do not blame him for getting Patti, I blame Patti. Chris is still an asshole and murderer. That's why I dislike him. He won Patti fair and square I agree.

But Ramon is not a true alpha, he is a wannabe pussy. Mat will eventually dominate them both.

 

[Manul56]

I love this game and story btw. That's why Anna's was a bit rough. I hope she can redeem herself. In my playthrough she did not sleep with Ramon before.

Ramon is a pussy. He cowers before real power like Chris. I hate Chris, but I can recognise real power. I do not blame him for getting Patti, I blame Patti. Chris is still an asshole and murderer. That's why I dislike him. He won Patti fair and square I agree.

But Ramon is not a true alpha, he is a wannabe pussy. Mat will eventually dominate them both.

I wish,but i dont think so.For what i see and read here(i stop playing the game in the tennis section because i was to angry) it seem that the developer dont want to have Matt a good ending or satisfatory to those how dont like to be NTR,and its a shame because Matt is actually a good MC in my opionion ,is realistic ,but it seems that he will never have a revenge.
And the the Anna part whit Ramon ,shit men ,thank god i stop playing it before i reached that part, i dont think i will be able to hold it together(for those who want to know i was bullied a lot by people that was like ramon in my hig school days).
I still be in this thread waiting for the day that the game allowed the player to have some revenge ,and in that day i may return to the game.
PS: just of curiosity ,does Matt have any sex at all. And sorry for my bad english ,is not my nature lenguaje

 

[Alfius]

I wish,but i dont think so.For what i see and read here(i stop playing the game in the tennis section because i was to angry) it seem that the developer dont want to have Matt a good ending or satisfatory to those how dont like to be NTR,and its a shame because Matt is actually a good MC in my opionion ,is realistic ,but it seems that he will never have a revenge.
And the the Anna part whit Ramon ,shit men ,thank god i stop playing it before i reached that part, i dont think i will be able to hold it together(for those who want to know i was bullied a lot by people that was like ramon in my hig school days).
I still be in this thread waiting for the day that the game allowed the player to have some revenge ,and in that day i may return to the game.
PS: just of curiosity ,does Matt have any sex at all. And sorry for my bad english ,is not my nature lenguaje

Nah, the story is not so bad. I think maybe you made a bad decision earlier in the game. The MC has plenty of sex, and there is a beautiful love story developing between MC and Serena. There is also chemistry developing between the MC and Demi. The revenge of the MC has already started. Patti has seen him three times with Serena already and is currently in an jealousy rage. Very satisfying to watch. Not sure how she is going to end up. Either she is going to go into a corruption spiral or she is going to come back begging or maybe both. The rejection will be epic.

Regarding Anna. Mixed feelings. Strictly speaking she is also an MC in the game. So right of the bet, it is established that she decided to let go of any constrains regarding sex and she becomes a bit of a nymphomaniac. Due to her past bad experiences with her ex-cop partner, she decided never to have romantic or sexual relations with any future partners again, and that is where Mat came in. She sees Mat as her partner. She made it pretty clear, that she is not interested in a relationship with Mat. I'm not angry with her because she had sex with someone like Ramon. Some girls are attracted to bad boys. It's a fact of life.

But, the betrayal of a partner goes against her own code. She basically betrays Mat. I'm very interested how this is going to play out. Because by sleeping with Ramon, she is also cutting a hole for herself and exposing herself to Chris, the real villain. Ramon is small fry and not a real threat to Mat (or Anna for that matter). He is a pussy. Chris however, is extremely dangerous. So yes, Anna made a stupid mistake, that I think might comeback to haunt her. How Anna deals with this aftermath is what I'm interested in.

Mat is actually in a good place at the moment. Anna is not.

PS. If you are hoping to have sex with a virgin in this game, then obviously this game is not for you. Even the current love interest, Serena is an escort, so seeing people you like having sex with people you don't like is part of the game. But it's realistic and allows for a lot of character growth.

PPS. The MC's naïve view on woman is part the reason for the initial divorce. Woman may say they want a man that is nice and caters to their every need, but it's a lie. It's boring for them, it's friendzone material. You don't need to be an asshole, but women likes assertive men. Mat is quickly learning that.

 

[Alfius]

Well,first of all - if you don't remember it,Anna already has sex with Ramon before she find that Ramon and Matt know each other and before to start training him! t - this is not a betrayal!
If you can't understand it,then may be i should try to ask you that: If you are fucking with someone who you like and who is satisfying you realy good and later you agree to help someone else with some task,but find that the one who is fucking you is his enemy,will you stop fucking that one who is pleasing you so good every time,only because you agree to help the next one and because he will not feel good if he finds out you are fucking his enemy? I think i know the answer - the answer is "NO" !

Except in my playthrough she never had sex with Ramon before. She is also the one that encouraged the the MC to take the fight and against Ramon and offer to train him for it. There is no other way to see this then betrayal. She betray her partner. It has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with not being loyal to her partner.

If you don't see this as betrayal then you don't know loyalty. There are thousands of fuckboys like Ramon that she can have sex with. Why sleep with the enemy of you partner?

 

[Manul56]

Nah, the story is not so bad. I think maybe you made a bad decision earlier in the game. The MC has plenty of sex, and there is a beautiful love story developing between MC and Serena. There is also chemistry developing between the MC and Demi. The revenge of the MC has already started. Patti has seen him three times with Serena already and is currently in an jealousy rage. Very satisfying to watch. Not sure how she is going to end up. Either she is going to go into a corruption spiral or she is going to come back begging or maybe both. The rejection will be epic.

Regarding Anna. Mixed feelings. Strictly speaking she is also an MC in the game. So right of the bet, it is established that she decided to let go of any constrains regarding sex and she becomes a bit of a nymphomaniac. Due to her past bad experiences with her ex-cop partner, she decided never to have romantic or sexual relations with any future partners again, and that is where Mat came in. She sees Mat as her partner. She made it pretty clear, that she is not interested in a relationship with Mat. I'm not angry with her because she had sex with someone like Ramon. Some girls are attracted to bad boys. It's a fact of life.

But, the betrayal of a partner goes against her own code. She basically betrays Mat. I'm very interested how this is going to play out. Because by sleeping with Ramon, she is also cutting a hole for herself and exposing herself to Chris, the real villain. Ramon is small fry and not a real threat to Mat (or Anna for that matter). He is a pussy. Chris however, is extremely dangerous. So yes, Anna made a stupid mistake, that I think might comeback to haunt her. How Anna deals with this aftermath is what I'm interested in.

Mat is actually in a good place at the moment. Anna is not.

PS. If you are hoping to have sex with a virgin in this game, then obviously this game is not for you. Even the current love interest, Serena is an escort, so seeing people you like having sex with people you don't like is part of the game. But it's realistic and allows for a lot of character growth.

PPS. The MC's naïve view on woman is part the reason for the initial divorce. Woman may say they want a man that is nice and caters to their every need, but it's a lie. It's boring for them, it's friendzone material. You don't need to be an asshole, but women likes assertive men. Mat is quickly learning that.

So should I in your opinon give it another chance to the game or wait ? And i dont know what bad choices did i actually make to dont have any action

 

[Alfius]

So should I in your opinon give it another chance to the game or wait ? And i dont know what bad choices did i actually make to dont have any action

I'm not sure if I should recommend it to you specifically or not.

In general I would recommend it. BUT This game is definitely not for everyone. Me, I love myself a good revenge story. But for revenge to occur, there needs to be plenty of initial hurt for the payoff to be good. Where to draw the line between the initial suffering and the ultimate payoff is what ultimately makes the story good or not. Making the suffering too little, makes the payoff bland, but dragging it out tool long, can become a torturous experience. This game is currently on a fine line between very good and maybe a disaster. So far I'm loving it, but the betrayal by Anna was brutal for me playing as Mat (Not the sex, but the fact that it was with Ramon).

Maybe waiting a few updates might be a good idea for you. I'm not sure what direction the next few updates will go.

In terms of NTR route or not. Not sure where it happens, but if you took Ramon's bait to fight him in the Gym initially, it does not go well for your next meeting with Mia. I suspect, that is the turning point for an NTR route. I'm generally not an NTR lover, but I do like games that contains plot points including betrayal, jealousy etc. As long as it's not the main theme of the game especially at the end of the game, I'm all for it. Obviously I like vanilla non cheating love stories as well (Aka Melody, DMD etc.)

 

[AtotehZ]

To be honest the only NTR I've seen so far is between Patti and Christopher with MC being the victim. The rest doesn't seem to be NTR. There's lots of voyeurism, but it's never with a love interest.
If Mia decided to fuck someone else in front of you it'd qualify.
I don't consider Anna a love interest for Matt. You can have group sex with her, but she isn't your love interest.
Is there anything after the club and group sex that qualifies as NTR?

 

[LoveWhores]

I wish,but i dont think so.For what i see and read here(i stop playing the game in the tennis section because i was to angry) it seem that the developer dont want to have Matt a good ending or satisfatory to those how dont like to be NTR,and its a shame because Matt is actually a good MC in my opionion ,is realistic ,but it seems that he will never have a revenge.
And the the Anna part whit Ramon ,shit men ,thank god i stop playing it before i reached that part, i dont think i will be able to hold it together(for those who want to know i was bullied a lot by people that was like ramon in my hig school days).
I still be in this thread waiting for the day that the game allowed the player to have some revenge ,and in that day i may return to the game.
PS: just of curiosity ,does Matt have any sex at all. And sorry for my bad english ,is not my nature lenguaje

You are right - there it will not has a good end for Matt! He is trying (with the help of Anna)to find a way to expose Chris,to put him in jail,to show Patty what he really is and that way to win her back,but things are not so easily and he wil never do it because he is a looser and a stupid pity guy,who only can eventually offer himself a prostitute and he is a guy from who everyone can lie and take advantage of him - i am pretty sure Serena is just trying to entangle him in lies and take advantage of him,because she see how very naive and stupid he is and i'm more than sure she work for Chris too,may be he even make her live in the opposite villa of his with a purpose,because he wants to have an informant who will inform him about everything that is happening in his neighborhood and how the transformation of Patty to a real whore and slut goes! After all Serena is a prostitute and Chris owns that business! Anna is a whore and slut,she know that even if she don't say it to the others,but she don't care,she just do what she want and fuck with everyone she want - sometimes just for plesure,next time for information or finding a clue for the case she is working on,because she work on hers own way,she is not working with the police like before!
Patty (the best girl in this game) is like most of the girls - she like money,luxury,not working and to be pleased and satisfied good by big cocks,doesn't matter who it will be and how the guy will look like! That's exactly why she leave Matt - because he can't give her all of that,money,luxury and good fucking since he is a looser and pity guy with a small dick,but Chris can give her everything and he don't mind if she cheat on him and fuck with others,because he likes she to be a whore and slut and she already start to find what she really is and to enjoy it! She is not jealous of Matt and will never be - she just want him to suffer and to see how he can't be like Chris and give her everything she want,but Matt even if it's angry at her and what she start to be,he still want to win her back - other wise he will not keep working with Anna and will just leave and forget everything and will immediately stop working and trying to win Patty back and will just start a new life with someone else in some different place - but like i say,he didn't stop to do that,because the whole point of him in the game is to trying to win Patty,even it's realy hard for him,because he see what she already start to be - but this will never happens! Actually he may go to jail if Chris found soon what he and Anna are doing and that they installed cameras in his office and his villa!
Ramon is the typical playboy - he is training to has a good body for the girls,he work for the guys who offer him a good money and even the possibility to fuck a good whore/slut,he don't care for anything and he always play the bad boy - which everyone knows,the girls like the bad boys! He can easily beat Matt - actually he already do this before in the gym,when they speak and train together,before he start to be Matt's enemy - and he will beat him again every time,no matter how hard Matt training!
Chris is the something like the "Boss of Mafia" - he has connections,a lot of money from every business he has - company,prostitutions,drugs and everything else! He can easily has every girl he want,make immediately everyone to work for him just with one call and offer,he can afford the best lawyers and even to bribe the whole police - guys like him never lose,they always win and take everything they want,so it will be very interesting and nice to see what he will do to Matt when he finds out that he works against him with Anna ( ex police officer) and they install cameras in his office and his villa! I am more than sure it will not be verry good for Matt!

 

[LoveWhores]

Except in my playthrough she never had sex with Ramon before. She is also the one that encouraged the the MC to take the fight and against Ramon and offer to train him for it. There is no other way to see this then betrayal. She betray her partner. It has nothing to do with sex and everything to do with not being loyal to her partner.

If you don't see this as betrayal then you don't know loyalty. There are thousands of fuckboys like Ramon that she can have sex with. Why sleep with the enemy of you partner?

Well,like you and others say before - she never showed interest to Matt and like i say,she is just trying to help him because she feels bad for him! You can train someone to who you don't has a interest,but this don't mean you can't fuck the ones to who you has a interest or you like - even if they are bad guys or enemies to someone else or to you - actually this even make it more exciting and hot and we all know the girls really,really like and enjoy the bad and exciting situations!
Matt is her partner only because she need him,not because she realy want that - she just need someone who to do the job she can't and that's why she is using him and that's why she trying to help him with some stuff like the fight - because that way he will don't find that she is using him,but in the moment she don't need him anymore she will leave him!

PS: I'm sorry I ruined your opinion of Anna but that's the truth!

 

[Alfius]

Well,like you and others say before - she never showed interest to Matt and like i say,she is just trying to help him because she feels bad for him! You can train someone to who you don't has a interest,but this don't mean you can't fuck the ones to who you has a interest or you like - even if they are bad guys or enemies to someone else or to you - actually this even make it more exciting and hot and we all know the girls really,really like and enjoy the bad and exciting situations!
Matt is her partner only because she need him,not because she realy want that - she just need someone who to do the job she can't and that's why she is using him and that's why she trying to help him with some stuff like the fight - because that way he will don't find that she is using him,but in the moment she don't need him anymore she will leave him!

PS: I'm sorry I ruined your opinion of Anna but that's the truth!

My opinion of Anna is not ruined and you did not ruin it for me. I think she made a mistake. Like you said, she needs Mat. And Chris is her ultimate enemy. Even if you don't care about Mat and don't care about loyalty, it was still a dumb thing for her to do. Ramon is not only Mat's enemy, he is also Anna's enemy/ Ramon works for Chris and Chris is her enemy. She knows this.

By sleeping with Ramon she might have lost Mat as a partner and gave Chris leverage on her. As a professional ex-police woman it was a dumb thing to do. I do care about loyalty, so for me it was double stupid move. Even Demi wanted nothing to do with Ramon, and she normally likes to sleep with bad boys. Nope Anna made mistake.

Mat is over Patti, so no worries there. We will see how this all pans out.

 

[Jstforme]

My opinion of Anna is not ruined and you did not ruin it for me. I think she made a mistake. Like you said, she needs Mat. And Chris is her ultimate enemy. Even if you don't care about Mat and don't care about loyalty, it was still a dumb thing for her to do. Ramon is not only Mat's enemy, he is also Anna's enemy/ Ramon works for Chris and Chris is her enemy. She knows this.

By sleeping with Ramon she might have lost Mat as a partner and gave Chris leverage on her. As a professional ex-police woman it was a dumb thing to do. I do care about loyalty, so for me it was double stupid move. Even Demi wanted nothing to do with Ramon, and she normally likes to sleep with bad boys. Nope Anna made mistake.

Mat is over Patti, so no worries there. We will see how this all pans out.

Agree, with Anna's background and quest for revenge against Chris, her getting involved with Ramon was about the dumbest thing she could have done. She'll have a lot of making up to do with Matt if she wants her "partnership" to continue. I also think she put herself into a hole that she won't easily climb out of by doing what she did concerning Chris...I suspect he's already working her roommate/lover that's posing as a maid...when she had sex with Patti, I'm willing to bet Chris paid her to do that, to further Patti's downward spiral. Also, knowing Chris, he no doubt also already knows where she lives, and that Ann is her roommate, and is having Ramon pursue her to fuck with Matt.
The whole betrayal with Ann is probably what breaks the camels back when it comes to Matt, turning him into a cold and ruthless person (only so much betrayal from people you thought you were close with, that a person can take)....beginning his path of revenge, starting by knocking Ramon the fuck out at the upcoming fight.
Most of you are also forgetting he already has Chris's computer hacked, cameras in his house, office and that Asian girls home...I bet Chris is pulling her strings too...All the cards are stacked in Matt's favor, he's sitting in a pretty good place as far as starting his path of revenge. I'm looking forward to the blood and thunder that ensues.

 

[LoveWhores]

My opinion of Anna is not ruined and you did not ruin it for me. I think she made a mistake. Like you said, she needs Mat. And Chris is her ultimate enemy. Even if you don't care about Mat and don't care about loyalty, it was still a dumb thing for her to do. Ramon is not only Mat's enemy, he is also Anna's enemy/ Ramon works for Chris and Chris is her enemy. She knows this.

By sleeping with Ramon she might have lost Mat as a partner and gave Chris leverage on her. As a professional ex-police woman it was a dumb thing to do. I do care about loyalty, so for me it was double stupid move. Even Demi wanted nothing to do with Ramon, and she normally likes to sleep with bad boys. Nope Anna made mistake.

Mat is over Patti, so no worries there. We will see how this all pans out.

I see you are just too naive like Matt and you obviously can't see the real picture and understand that i'm right! Or may be you understand it,but because you are so naive,you are hoping that this is not the truth and don't want to accept that i am right!
Any way i don't care - i lost too many time to try to show you the real picture so you can understand it,but you are just lost case! And for the record - Ramon is not Anna's enemy,Chris is her enemy - Ramon is her secret lover who pleased and satisfying her needs,fucking her realy good - she don't made a mistake,she do exactly what she want,if she don't want it she was going to leave,but she like been fucked by Ramon! Matt is not over Patty,he is just angry and disappointed from what happens and what she start to be,but he is not over her and that's why he keep working with Anna to expose Chris and than win Patty back - that's the whole point of the game - but he will never win her back doesn't matter how badly he is trying to do it,because Patty don't like him and she left him with a purpose,because he will never be able to please and satisfy her all needs good! Matt can only hope to has a little fun with some stupid,pity and ugly girl like him or with some prostitute like a Serena,who i'm sure that she is using him!

I'm done trying to make you see and understand the whole point of the game and to see the real picture - you are just too naive or just too stubborn and blind who can't accept the point of others and who can't accept to see the real picture!

PS: You obviously need to understand there are too many different ways how someone can use someone else and sometimes what you think you see it's not the real truth and you also need to start to accept that the other people also can be right and you are not the only one who is always right and think that he knows everything - that's the reality! No bad feelings!

 

[Jstforme]

I see you are just too naive like Matt and you obviously can't see the real picture and understand that i'm right! Or may be you understand it,but because you are so naive,you are hoping that this is not the truth and don't want to accept that i am right!
Any way i don't care - i lost too many time to try to show you the real picture so you can understand it,but you are just lost case! And for the record - Ramon is not Anna's enemy,Chris is her enemy - Ramon is her secret lover who pleased and satisfying her needs,fucking her realy good - she don't made a mistake,she do exactly what she want,if she don't want it she was going to leave,but she like been fucked by Ramon! Matt is not over Patty,he is just angry and disappointed from what happens and what she start to be,but he is not over her and that's why he keep working with Anna to expose Chris and than win Patty back - that's the whole point of the game - but he will never win her back doesn't matter how badly he is trying to do it,because Patty don't like him and she left him with a purpose,because he will never be able to please and satisfy her all needs good! Matt can only hope to has a little fun with some stupid,pity and ugly girl like him or with some prostitute like a Serena,who i'm sure that she is using him!

I'm done trying to make you see and understand the whole point of the game and to see the real picture - you are just too naive or just too stubborn and blind who can't accept the point of others and who can't accept to see the real picture!

PS: You obviously need to understand there are too many different ways how someone can use someone else and sometimes what you think you see it's not the real truth and you also need to start to accept that the other people also can be right and you are not the only one who is always right and think that he knows everything - that's the reality! No bad feelings!

Are you the developer? Are you part of the project with intimate knowledge of what's really going on with the story, and where the story will go? Or are you trying to force your opinions down everyone's throat.
You don't like Matt, and you like whores, we get it. You come off as a troll, just settle down a bit eh?

 

[Alfius]

I see you are just too naive like Matt and you obviously can't see the real picture and understand that i'm right! Or may be you understand it,but because you are so naive,you are hoping that this is not the truth and don't want to accept that i am right!
Any way i don't care - i lost too many time to try to show you the real picture so you can understand it,but you are just lost case! And for the record - Ramon is not Anna's enemy,Chris is her enemy - Ramon is her secret lover who pleased and satisfying her needs,fucking her realy good - she don't made a mistake,she do exactly what she want,if she don't want it she was going to leave,but she like been fucked by Ramon! Matt is not over Patty,he is just angry and disappointed from what happens and what she start to be,but he is not over her and that's why he keep working with Anna to expose Chris and than win Patty back - that's the whole point of the game - but he will never win her back doesn't matter how badly he is trying to do it,because Patty don't like him and she left him with a purpose,because he will never be able to please and satisfy her all needs good! Matt can only hope to has a little fun with some stupid,pity and ugly girl like him or with some prostitute like a Serena,who i'm sure that she is using him!

I'm done trying to make you see and understand the whole point of the game and to see the real picture - you are just too naive or just too stubborn and blind who can't accept the point of others and who can't accept to see the real picture!

PS: You obviously need to understand there are too many different ways how someone can use someone else and sometimes what you think you see it's not the real truth and you also need to start to accept that the other people also can be right and you are not the only one who is always right and think that he knows everything - that's the reality! No bad feelings!

I agree, people see things differently.
I see Chris as a bad person and murderer.
I see Patti as a gold digging bitch
I seen Anna as a good Cop that love sex, that made a mistake.
I see Ramon as a muscled pussy
I see Serena as a good person in a bad position, and yes, she might in future fuck Mat over.
I see Mat as pussy whipped married guy that got taught a lesson in life and are busy turning his life around.
I don't trust any of his co-workers. Even Mia, but a man needs to get laid, so it's all good.
I don't trust Randy either.

So you see them differently. It's all is good. I do not think you are wrong and I'm right, we just see and analyse the same characters differently.

 

[LoveWhores]

Are you the developer? Are you part of the project with intimate knowledge of what's really going on with the story, and where the story will go? Or are you trying to force your opinions down everyone's throat.
You don't like Matt, and you like whores, we get it. You come off as a troll, just settle down a bit eh?

OMG! How old are you? Didn't you see that i never offend anyone and i only try to speak normally every time? The only thing i do is to expose the facts in the game - everyone can see that and everyone who can see them can come to a conclude and understand exactly what i mean! This don't make me a developer or part of the project,just because i expose the facts which are truth and this which can has a chance to be a truth in a future! I am not trying to force anyone,i only was trying to make you and the other guy/girl to see and understand that he/she it can't be always right and need to see and accept that other peoples can be right too - this is called a respect! I even finish my comment with something like apologize - "not bad feelings"! I'm sorry,but i think you obviously just want to make a scene or drama here with your comment! Well,it will not going to happen! Like i say it before - no bad feelings and try to respect the others too!

 

[Voland13]

I don't think Anna will play a crucial role in this story. In the beginning, Matt has a low level of sexual skills (for example, Patty), and after the divorce, he becomes a pathetic alcoholic with shaking hands. But at a certain point, he decided to change his life. From this day on, it progresses rapidly. Took up physical training (with Anna), improves charm (Serena, Demi, the girl from the tennis court), increased skills in sex (here he has already surpassed Ramon, if you compare the scenes of Matt+MIA-Ramon+Anna, Matt clearly coped better). Anna, on the other hand, is digging her own grave. So maybe at some stage of the game, she will give up, and Matt will continue to fight.

The fight with Ramon can win easily if prepare properly. Ramon is not a fighter, he boasts that he likes to beat the weak, but he has never lacked the courage to enter the ring against an equal opponent. He knows how to fight only if he is sure that the opponent is too scared and will not hit back. Chris also showed all of Ramon's bravery. So if Matt managed to land a few punches, Ramon would give up.

Taylor... interesting character. The office staff trust her, thinking that Chris's confidant is a bald man (I don't remember the name), Chris trusts her, Anna considers her a simple Secretary. But it is in her hands all the secrets, and she can easily destroy Chris. In the scene where she defended Matt in front of Chris, there is a hint that she knows how to manipulate him (perhaps she is the main villain). If Matt shows himself on the best side perhaps she will be interested in replacing the old man with a younger lover. But it's more of a bad ending in which Matt will work for Taylor and Anna, Patti, and Serena will be his prostitutes.

Sorry if I made mistakes. English is not my strong suit

 

[Alfius]

I don't consider Anna a love interest for Matt. You can have group sex with her, but she isn't your love interest.
Is there anything after the club and group sex that qualifies as NTR?

Can you have group sex with her?

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