Ren'Py Abandoned Making a Mark [v0.18.00] [Fasder]

[Fasder]

idk, because I had already bought it, and no delivery did show up with it before though.

You need to sleep twice for the delivery to happen. So if you set strapon to False and then re-bought it and got it the next day it would indicate that you would have gotten it the next day regardless of you re-buying it or not. It can't just take one day for delivery, which is why I'm skeptical that it would be a bug.

Maybe the item should just not been able to be bought in the store until needed.

That is already how it works, unless Jenny has spoken about it, you can't buy it.
It didn't used to be like that, which is why I said that if you bought it prior to 0.05.03 then it's likely bugged.

 

[Joshua Tree]

You need to sleep twice for the delivery to happen. So if you set strapon to False and then re-bought it and got it the next day it would indicate that you would have gotten it the next day regardless of you re-buying it or not. It can't just take one day for delivery, which is why I'm skeptical that it would be a bug.

That is already how it works, unless Jenny has spoken about it, you can't buy it.
It didn't used to be like that, which is why I said that if you bought it prior to 0.05.03 then it's likely bugged.

Well I started a new game with no old saves. And when I bought it first time in the game, it was probably several weeks in the game, before it was even needed. And there was no delivery scene what so ever. However, it did trigger on the next day after once I used the console command and bought it again. I know deliveries can be slow, but.. ehm -)

 

[Fasder]

Well I started a new game with no old saves.

Yeah, I know, that's why it's even more unlikely to be a bug.

And when I bought it first time in the game, it was probably several weeks in the game, before it was even needed.

That should not be possible and I'm looking at the code right now, trying to figure out how that could happen.
Do you have an older save, before you got the strapon that you could share?

it did trigger on the next day after once I used the console command and bought it again.

Well, it's two days, but yeah, that seems about right.

 

[Joshua Tree]

Yeah, I know, that's why it's even more unlikely to be a bug.

That should not be possible and I'm looking at the code right now, trying to figure out how that could happen.
Do you have an older save, before you got the strapon that you could share?

Well, it's two days, but yeah, that seems about right.

Haven't really been using multiple saves much. The older save I got is way to early in the game :/ I knew I bought it before I realized I had to grind Helen up to progress. She was at 18-19 or so, and took her up to 35. Could the delivery scene fail to trigger due to stats of a character being to low?

 

[Pattitto00]

I can't go furtherin the game. Got twins at 40 each, can go gym whith both , hard on and no more, in the pool scene where they are touching and go to clear pipes, at night triggered water sports . Whith sister 56 see the stars at night and walking around, at the pool she is sleeping topless, at Living room massage and Sometimes touch breast. The teacher 29. Have sex at night on the street.

What I'm Missing? Followed the walktrought but now I'm lost. Any help Please?

 

[Fasder]

I knew I bought it before I realized I had to grind Helen up to progress. She was at 18-19 or so, and took her up to 35. Could the delivery scene fail to trigger due to stats of a character being to low?

That's completely fine, as long as you'd gotten the scenes with Jenna and Jenny at the pool then it's all in line with what should be possible.
No the stats have nothing to do with the delivery, at least not directly.
The only way I could see how a delivery would screw up would be if you somehow was able to avoid being in either Sarah's Bedroom or My bedroom at 8:00 every day, which isn't possible.
So I'm not sure what's up.

The teacher 29. Have sex at night on the street.

You need 35 with Helen.

 

[DragonFire]

Speaking of grind, I finally triggered the final exam by getting MC's Intelligence to 44.

EDIT: the exam triggered the party with Jenny and Jenna, woo.

I love that one of the questions was sensitive data should be stored on the cloud. I was literally just reading about meltdown and how you can get root access to fast cache on a processor and steal data from another company that is hosted on the same hardware.

It's a combination of points to reach really.. For Intelligence it is 20 minimum to take the final exam, but your Affection with all the women has to reach their peak for that part of the game as well, the numbers are listed in an earlier post.

For Jenny & Jenna affection has to be 40 before the final exam unlocks
Sarah's point is 56 if remembering correctly
Helen's score will variate depending if you had sex with her or not after the old bar event.

Other than that it's explained in the Hint note on OP that a certain event must take place before any of the new events, a walk around town at exactly 01:00, see the note for further details.

Needless to say the final requirement would be that all older events/achievements should have been completed/reached first as well, before that final exam will open up

I did read that you got it done, just wanted to correct on the issue of Intelligence being the main trigger, I think you must have gotten the Twins Affection to 40 around the time you got Intelligence to 44 and next morning in School you saw Final Exam option? Either that or some other last point value during your daily routine. :closedeyesmile:

 

[DragonFire]

I can't go furtherin the game. Got twins at 40 each, can go gym whith both , hard on and no more, in the pool scene where they are touching and go to clear pipes, at night triggered water sports . Whith sister 56 see the stars at night and walking around, at the pool she is sleeping topless, at Living room massage and Sometimes touch breast. The teacher 29. Have sex at night on the street.

What I'm Missing? Followed the walktrought but now I'm lost. Any help Please?

Did you have sex with Helen after the old bar event? As Fasder said, her points need an increase to open the last lock.
If I recall correctly, going to School first thing in the morning, 08:00, and study or work, will make it possible to have lunch with Helen, which might increase her points? Ain't sure cuz is a long time since I capped her points

But that's what I mean by going outside the usual MC routine grind. Normally I would spend some hours at home before School, but by doing so the "extra" Helen School stuff won't open up for choice that day.

Hope it helps

Oh and btw, good morning Fasder, hope ya had a good sleep, ya sure earned it
(I only napped a little on my couch.. time to play some games I reckon.. Insomnia is a Biatch at times!) penedeyewink:

 

[Lorric17]

To be honest, I don't feel the grind is a big problem. The real problem is not knowing how to proceed. That goes on two levels. First, affection score is only increased with a single event at any time, and you have to discover what that event is. Not a big problem and part of the game. But the player has no idea what is needed to advance the plot. For the final sequence to kick in, you need to fulfill a bunch of unknown conditions (5 at least). That is the wall that people are hitting. Perhaps @Fasder could add an action to the bedroom where the pc sits down and thinks on what to do, so the player is guided somewhat.

 

[Fasder]

For Jenny & Jenna affection has to be 40 before the final exam unlocks

The twins affection levels are not related to the final exam, you just need to get to either 35, 25 or 26 (depending on your choice with Helen) and complete events from previous versions.
This is the condition for taking the exam:

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Did you have sex with Helen after the old bar event? As Fasder said, her points need an increase to open the last lock.
If I recall correctly, going to School first thing in the morning, 08:00, and study or work, will make it possible to have lunch with Helen, which might increase her points? Ain't sure cuz is a long time since I capped her points

He's already at the point where he's meeting up with Helen on the street for some fun, which can't unlock if he didn't sleep with her initially, so all he has to do is continue that scene until he's a 35.

Perhaps @Fasder could add an action to the bedroom where the pc sits down and thinks on what to do, so the player is guided somewhat.

While I can agree with that to some extent, I don't think the issue is as big as people make it seem.
One of the difficult part of making a game like this is the testing it requires, not only from me but from others.
Since most people are very much against playing through the game every update it makes it even harder.
As far as I can see the thing people are having issues with are mostly bugs created by old faulty saves or because they didn't start over.
When you don't start over you don't get the flow in the game, instead you will probably grind one stat for a week or two, just to trigger that one event you're missing, but then I add another scene in the next update that runs in parallel with that scene, which would've made the grind less monotonous.
This is true most of the time, but because this update requires you to complete every story line up to this point, it will feel a bit spotty and it's difficult to do anything about it without adding a bunch of unrelated fillers.
A "Quest tracker" is probably doable, I'm just not sure the game really needs it, especially due to the fact that the walkthrough is a missing element for a lot of you guys.

I will think it over, maybe there are things I can change or add.

 

[wurg]

@Fasder I had the same bug with the strap-on, this is the first time I have played this game, no previous saves for me. Found the fix in the thread here, just thought you might want to know about it.

Just a suggestion, don't know if it works in python like it does in other languages, but you might want to set the visibility to false until the event triggers that calls for it then set it for true. I bought the strap-on and the dildo before the events called for them, I tend to do this in games to be prepared, rebought the dildo and it worked fine, did not work the same for the strap-on till I set it to false and repurchased it, then the event triggered.

I hope this helps.

 

[Fasder]

but you might want to set the visibility to false until the event triggers that calls for it then set it for true.

That is sort of how it works already, just in a fancy way.

I bought the strap-on and the dildo before the events called for them

That shouldn't be possible, so I don't know how you did that, nor no I find any loophole in my code that would explain it.
I also started a new game just to double check and I'm not able to buy them right at the beginning at the very least.

If you have a save prior to buying them, or when they aren't functional then I'd very much like to see them, thanks.

 

[Pattitto00]

Ok i will try to increase Helen affection , work study or launch right? No more ways to increase helen affection? Sex on the street? Yes I got it and the laptop.

 

[Fasder]

Sex on the street?

That's the one you need to get to 35, good luck, have fun.

 

[Fasder]

@Joshua Tree @wurg
I think I figured out how it might've bugged out for you guys, still if you or anyone else has information or a save where this has happened, let me know so I can verify my theory.
Thanks!

 

[wurg]

@Joshua Tree @wurg
I think I figured out how it might've bugged out for you guys, still if you or anyone else has information or a save where this has happened, let me know so I can verify my theory.
Thanks!

I think I have a save before hand, I can try to upload it in a thread, new here so not exactly sure how to do it but it can't be too hard.

I should have clarified in my post, I "bought" them before they were called for because they were available on the laptop, I didn't receive them in my inventory though.

Edit: When I realized the dildo was not in my inventory I went back and repurchased it, and that event triggered. Did the same for the strap-on after it was mentioned in the game and it didn't trigger till I went back into the console and set it to false.

The only variable I messed with in the console was money, you will see that in my saves, I left everything else alone.

2-1 is the decision to go home with the teacher or not, pre-purchase
2-6 is post dildo purchase
4-6 is at the decision to take the final exam or not - last one I have before figuring out that something was bugged when I was grinding trying to get something to trigger

 

[N1K17Y]

I love this game, because is a GAME and not a sequence of images through click to click. I sure that not all people might like it, but call this a shit because isn't your taste is rude and very unfair.
I never will judge other tastes neither call shit something I don't like (and there are some very populars that aren't my taste).

Kudos @Fasder for his kindness and patience.

games are supposed to be fun. and what is the difference here, instead of clicking trough images you have to click hundreds of times on 5-6 different locations until your stat is high enough. thats the entire "GAME" mechanic. a number going up by one. hell i like those pointless games where you grind for money, so you can buy upgrades so you can win more money, so you can buy even more upgrades, but they are done in a somewhat fun way. this isnt.
i dont see how anyone can enjoy this, other than the fact that you know that it will lead to the actual content of the game.
calling a game bad is fair. calling it shit is just a vulgar way of saying its bad.

 

[xrayman2k4]

@Fasder Jenny & Mark chatting during the party when Sarah and Jenna go off to look at the algorithm:
(starts at line 5229 in scenes.rpy)

j "Jenna was a bit depressed, she had just been dumped by her boyfriend."
j "So we mostly kept to ourselves during the evening, drinking a bit to take the edge off."
show jenny livingroom_afternoon_jenny_sitting_mark_beside_silent
"Mark listened as Jenny continued the story."
show jenny livingroom_afternoon_jenny_sitting_mark_beside_talking
j "I actually succeeded in cheering her up, making her forget the other girl."

Boyfriend or girlfriend or huh?

Also, Mark and Jenny: they are both on the scale, aren't they?
Not Rainman, but low-level?

Just an afterthought: Jenny's obsession could be termed ass-burgers

I can't claim that one, too much South Park.

 

[Fasder]

I think I have a save before hand, I can try to upload it in a thread, new here so not exactly sure how to do it but it can't be too hard.

I should have clarified in my post, I "bought" them before they were called for because they were available on the laptop, I didn't receive them in my inventory though.

Edit: When I realized the dildo was not in my inventory I went back and repurchased it, and that event triggered. Did the same for the strap-on after it was mentioned in the game and it didn't trigger till I went back into the console and set it to false.

The only variable I messed with in the console was money, you will see that in my saves, I left everything else alone.

2-1 is the decision to go home with the teacher or not, pre-purchase
2-6 is post dildo purchase
4-6 is at the decision to take the final exam or not - last one I have before figuring out that something was bugged when I was grinding trying to get something to trigger

Thank you!
The bug was as I suspected, thanks for confirming it.

Boyfriend or girlfriend or huh?

Yeah, it's been brought to my attention, thanks for letting me know.

Also, Mark and Jenny: they are both on the scale, aren't they?

On the spectrum? No, I don't think Jenny would fall on the spectrum, she's a little odd, but who isn't?

 

[UncleVT]

i dont see how anyone can enjoy this, other than the fact that you know that it will lead to the actual content of the game.
calling a game bad is fair. calling it shit is just a vulgar way of saying its bad.

I tryed to be reasonable and seems didn't work. Please, speak for you. YOU can't enjoy this, but isn't the same for everyone. It's just your opinion. The fact I enjoy this game invalidate your statement.