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I'm talking about 0.88, which was the last iteration of the game I played. (I'm waiting for 0.92 before playing again. I like to wait for three or four updates before playing again, to allow longer sessions.) In 0.88 there is a significant amount of grinding for both Emma and Sophia.



I didn't say that a porn game has to be different. People complain about grinding in non-porn games, too, so I don't see why anyone should be surprised when they complain about grinding in porn games. That may be why many of those games (perhaps most) make the grinding optional. I know some gamers in my circle who won't play games in which extensive grinding is unavoidable.

Myself, I'm on the other end of the spectrum. I'm a grinder by nature. I always try to max MC stats and relationship scores, etc. In the cases of Emma and Sophia in particular, though, I have to admit that it did seem to drag on more than it should. When you have to repeat the same scene a dozen times, you begin to just click through it as quickly as you can while wishing that there was a quicker way.
Repeat the same scene a dozen times? 2 scenes, 5 times each, to go up 10 in 2 different points.

Yes, I'm talking about the Emma stuff.
 

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You pray to the magic F95 gods, and it magically appears over here..
At least, that is how most peeps over here seems to think how it works ^^


FF grind.
Getting flashbacks to grinding/farming for Traps and dark matter in FF13.......:eek::eek::eek:
Or complete sphere grid in FF 10.
Or for the extra final boss in FF7.

The grind is real....:eek:
the lightning dodging in ffx was the most evil thing i encountered in all of the games i played. i crushed 2 controllers there out of rage
 

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Emma's grind I found normal like the others. The thing that might be giving the idea of an unnecessary grind is the fact that you might have already completed the other girls so she the only one you're grinding at this point.
The one that has the worst grind is Sophie since just for the sauna you need to visit it 15 times without any alternative to boost her stat. Although I can understand that the huge grind might come from the fact that Sophie is a shy girl and needs time to get used to the MC's presence.
 

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Emma's grind I found normal like the others. The thing that might be giving the idea of an unnecessary grind is the fact that you might have already completed the other girls so she the only one you're grinding at this point.
The one that has the worst grind is Sophie since just for the sauna you need to visit it 15 times without any alternative to boost her stat. Although I can understand that the huge grind might come from the fact that Sophie is a shy girl and needs time to get used to the MC's presence.
seeing the development of the game lately i'm pretty sure the grind will vanish once the ongoing story arc of the girls is finished. same happened with the maincast so i assume faerin to change that grind in a future update in the same way where you finish a event and get those 10 points in one go
 

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seeing the development of the game lately i'm pretty sure the grind will vanish once the ongoing story arc of the girls is finished. same happened with the maincast so i assume faerin to change that grind in a future update in the same way where you finish a event and get those 10 points in one go
Everything is possible, besides the main girls we can look at Emma as an example of how the grind can be 'reduced'. On 0.8.5, Faerin added her morning jog at the park and it's used not only for the new content but it was also added as an alternative to boost her stat at the beginning when we only had the after work coffee.
 
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Unless the game is set up like Big Brother, where the images were in another folder to be accessed by both the player and the game, unity automatically compresses the images, making the compressed version, the only version.
I remember when I first tried to export a game from Unity, and I had used tiffs, not really caring about size for my testing, and I found that once I exported it, the entire "game" (and I use the term loosely) was smaller than one of the images I had used for the menus.
Yeah... Unity compress the renders into his own raw format.

So far I have seen two ways how a Game Dev could "compress" his/their game:

1. As mentioned above: Using Unity's own Raw format (e. g. MotH, Midnight Paradise, and almost all other Unity Games)

2. Accessing through an archive file from the Streaming Asset folder.

Latter is used by Timestamps, where all renders are convert from jpeg (or whatever) to webp format.

I'm not sure if Faerin could import his video files to Unity, to use Unity's Raw file, since he use a 3rd party plugin and Timestamps for example use Unity's build-in video player for animation playback.

However, both Devs of both games use the most compressed version to distribute their games already. A further compressed or crunched version as seen for Ren'py games is not possible, because:
a) Dev use Unity Raw file for renders,
b) Dev already converted all JPEG files to webp.

The funny thing is: All "crunched" Ren'py games are nothing as converted JPEGs to webp with reduce quality (90% instead 100% quality).

I know I don't have to you tell you all of this, because you are aware of it and we might had this conversation already :LOL:

Anyway, for more information I would recommend this thread by Sam.

https://f95zone.to/threads/webpy-ba...ssor-rpa-extractor-included.12477/post-731328

@medo12345678: Those are some technical background information which might help you to understand, why you can't compress or crunch Unity Games like Ren'py games ;)
 

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seeing the development of the game lately i'm pretty sure the grind will vanish once the ongoing story arc of the girls is finished. same happened with the maincast so i assume faerin to change that grind in a future update in the same way where you finish a event and get those 10 points in one go
That was pretty much what I expected as well. I have to agree though, adding an alternative way to raise her stat at that point would be a nice way to fix it, without having to do something major that might break saves like the last rework did (not that I am complaining).
Yeah... Unity compress the renders into his own raw format.

So far I have seen two ways how a Game Dev could "compress" his/their game:

1. As mentioned above: Using Unity's own Raw format (e. g. MotH, Midnight Paradise, and almost all other Unity Games)

2. Accessing through an archive file from the Streaming Asset folder.

Latter is used by Timestamps, where all renders are convert from jpeg (or whatever) to webp format.

I'm not sure if Faerin could import his video files to Unity, to use Unity's Raw file, since he use a 3rd party plugin and Timestamps for example use Unity's build-in video player for animation playback.

However, both Devs of both games use the most compressed version to distribute their games already. A further compressed or crunched version as seen for Ren'py games is not possible, because:
a) Dev use Unity Raw file for renders,
b) Dev already converted all JPEG files to webp.

The funny thing is: All "crunched" Ren'py games are nothing as converted JPEGs to webp with reduce quality (90% instead 100% quality).

I know I don't have to you tell you all of this, because you are aware of it and we might had this conversation already :LOL:

Anyway, for more information I would recommend this thread by Sam.

https://f95zone.to/threads/webpy-ba...ssor-rpa-extractor-included.12477/post-731328

@medo12345678: Those are some technical background information which might help you to understand, why you can't compress or crunch Unity Games like Ren'py games ;)
Yeah, about the only other option would be if he took the time to render every image at a much lower resolution, and that would be a huge undertaking for very little benefit and a big negative. I would rather see him working on new content than trying to make a slightly smaller version that is a lot worse anyway. ;)
 

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I am the same as you as you I dont mind grinding although in some games it can be a pain in the arse as it is over extensive, the problem here I think is that the game is played update by update I understand that you havent played since 0.88 so you have two months of content to go through but each update will still only concentrate on one character so it can seem grindy, if played from the beginning again the girls that seem grindy can be interlaced with progressing other characters and it wont seem as grindy in fact it will probably feel like a different game.
I will still go back to my initial point though there has to be some element of grind in the game as it is a game and not a Visual novel, and I am sorry if I misunderstood your original comment but far too many people come here and moan its too grindy when all they want to do is click away and do nothing just so can reach the good content just like a VN
You can start from the beginning like I have a couple times and still have an enjoying game! Love this game after fixes !!!
 

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? hello.. how do i give Emma the nuru gel.? i have completed everything .!
Visit Emma in the massage room at noon on weekdays and you should have an option to ask for a nuru massage. If not, visit the sex shop and try to buy the nuru gel again. Then you can ask for a nuru massage from Emma.
 
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Visit Emma in the massage room at noon on weekdays and you should have an option to ask for a nuru massage. If not, visit the sex shop and try to buy the nuru gel again. Then you can ask for a nuru massage from Emma.
thanks,, that might be it ,, already had the gel...
 
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I have Debby's Photographic to 95%, I have done the gym, tennis courts, Both Veronica's events, the early morning and the coffee girl event, what am I missing?
 

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I have Debby's Photographic to 95%, I have done the gym, tennis courts, Both Veronica's events, the early morning and the coffee girl event, what am I missing?
What images, videos, scenes or collectables are you missing in the gallery?
 
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