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Why would competent C# coder, with large experience in making of Unity games, switch to RenPy?
As a professional c++ developer, I would have done MotH in Ren'Py. There is nothing in MotH that requires the power of Unity. Ren'Py is simply better (IMO, of course) at VNs than Unity. This game is a sandbox VN. Look at the support burden - lots of people have issues with the resolution, or videos. And Ren'Py gives you a free Mac version, and much easier to make Android version.
 
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This is my saved file, can you see what it is doing? Thank you very much!
Her hints are showing "If I watch a horror movie with her, she'll probably get too scared to sleep alone". So watch a horror movie with her at 19:00 then go to sleep with your boxers on and the door closed. Set the alarm clock for 08:00. The next morning her hint will change to "Let's go tell her good night, before she goes to sleep". Go to Ashley's room at 22:00.

Also, go into the cheats console, click "Max" under the moods then toggle the lock.
 
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Her hints are showing "If I watch a horror movie with her, she'll probably get too scared to sleep alone". So watch a horror movie with her at 19:00 then go to sleep with your boxers on and the door closed. Set the alarm clock for 08:00. The next morning her hint will change to "Let's go tell her good night, before she goes to sleep". Go to Ashley's room at 22:00.

Also, go into the cheats console, click "Max" under the moods then toggle the lock.
It means that after watching a horror movie with her, I go to sleep but I can't leave the door open but I have to close it right? Then the next day, at 10pm, do you have a good night?
 

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[QUOTE = "Sycho, bài đăng: 2175592, thành viên: 605587"]
Gợi ý của cô ấy là "Nếu tôi xem một bộ phim kinh dị với cô ấy, có lẽ cô ấy sẽ quá sợ hãi khi ngủ một mình". Vì vậy, hãy xem một bộ phim kinh dị với cô ấy lúc 19:00 sau đó đi ngủ với võ sĩ của bạn và cánh cửa đóng lại. Đặt đồng hồ báo thức cho 08:00. Sáng hôm sau, gợi ý của cô ấy sẽ thay đổi thành "Chúng ta hãy nói với cô ấy lời chúc ngủ ngon, trước khi cô ấy đi ngủ". Tới phòng của Ashley lúc 22:00.

Ngoài ra, đi vào bảng điều khiển cheat, nhấp vào "Max" trong tâm trạng sau đó bật khóa.
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Điều đó có nghĩa là sau khi xem một bộ phim kinh dị với cô ấy, tôi đi ngủ nhưng tôi không thể mở cửa nhưng tôi phải đóng nó lại phải không? Rồi ngày hôm sau, lúc 10 giờ tối, bạn có ngủ ngon không?
In English please..

Yes, watch the horror movie then sleep in your boxers and leave the door closed.

Sleep with the door closed = Ashley comes in
Sleep with the door opened = Claire comes in

Then go into her room at 10pm the next night.
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In English please..

Yes, watch the horror movie then sleep in your boxers and leave the door closed.

Sleep with the door closed = Ashley comes in
Sleep with the door opened = Claire comes in

Then go into her room at 10pm the next night.
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Thank you very much, I have done it. Let me ask another question, to the mother: from 8pm to 9pm in her room to check the laptop while she goes to take a shower. But I could not enter because the door of the room was always locked and closed, the instructions said that it was sometimes closed. So I have to do it every day until the door is opened, right?
 

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Thank you very much, I have done it. Let me ask another question, to the mother: from 8pm to 9pm in her room to check the laptop while she goes to take a shower. But I could not enter because the door of the room was always locked and closed, the instructions said that it was sometimes closed. So I have to do it every day until the door is opened, right?
No, it sounds like there is something missing that's not taken place for her door to be unlocked. It could be a bug, but let me check your save. I still have it on my hard drive.

EDIT:

Alright, her hint says, "Next time she comes into my room, while I'm sleeping naked, I'll give her a little show". So send MC to bed around midnight and set the alarm clock for 8am. Sleep naked with the door opened.

Remember:

Leave the door closed when you go to sleep for Ashley, leave the door opened for Claire. :)
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Hi. I just downloaded, newer and long-awaited version, but nevertheless Polish translations are missing. So, however, I will assure you that after each update (which is now very much waiting for a long time) I will wait for the translation in my language. So maybe a request from me, if anyone could, would anyone have a file or a document from a game that can be translated from English into Polish, or rather it is done, so that you need to configure the entire game, and the file is included or hidden in the game itself, if not in what files we receive. If it would be that I could translate from English and then write a document and play it in my own language it would be fun. And if not then it is only just waiting for me should be enough until the last threads from Debby at the station are corrected, and Claire when getting massage therapy from her as the last thread before thinking about the future.
 

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And Ren'Py gives you a free Mac version, and much easier to make Android version.
Pretty selfish from you saying that, considering that you get the game for free from a pirate site. :whistle:

Well, a game made in Ren'Py is a bad investment from a "classic" business point of view because Ren'Py gives you a free Mac, Linux version, and is much easier to port to Android.

Take into consideration, that many pirate and/or foreign websites sell unofficial/official Android version for their own profit without giving the original creator anything in return.

But who am I lecturing someone else about copyright on a pirated website.. I'm not better or worse as anyone else here.. :D

lots of people have issues with the resolution, or videos.
This is not a dev's fault, if players can't maintain their system properly or use hardware which is incompatible to each other.

On the official MotH Discord channel you can see that patrons have less problems with the game as people in this thread. The same goes for people who ask for help (walkthrough etc.). The majority of people who request help are non-patrons. ;)
 
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As a professional c++ developer, I would have done MotH in Ren'Py.
Well, that's possible is developer (in this case you) has decent command of Python... I have never asked Faerin about his skills in Python, but I know he is very good with C#.

There is nothing in MotH that requires the power of Unity. Ren'Py is simply better (IMO, of course) at VNs than Unity. This game is a sandbox VN. Look at the support burden - lots of people have issues with the resolution, or videos.
RenPy is made fro VNs, as it's name says. But still, this is works fine. Most problems with resolution etc are due to game being optimized for 16:9. As for us Linux and Mac users... well... we are running Windows game on Linux, through compatibillity layers, it's always tricky.

And Ren'Py gives you a free Mac version, and much easier to make Android version.
I guess you mean native. Portability is not issue with Unity. He didn't have time to maintain 4 versions. As for Unity and Android, 90% of games on Android are made with Unity... issue here is, that game is optimized for computer screens. Only portability advantage of RenPy is video support (this concerns Linux users most, as built in Unity player plays only webm and ogg on Linux. This was due licence issues). Anyway, I think Mac versions can appear in some time... sooner than you expect.

PS, about RenPy and Anroid... well, judging from most comments there is tonn of bugs around. There is also problem, depending on architecture, there should be actually two Android versions... and again, game would still be optimized for large screens. Not to mention privacy issues with playing adult game on Google built and tracked OS.

My bottom line would be:
1) RenPy needs decent knowledge of Python. You can see lot of issues with games here...
2) Renpy is indeed better for Visual Novels, but this isn't pure Visual Novel. Faerin will probably explain more about his engine, when talking about new game.
3) Unity actually has decent portability. RenPy, as open-source has better portability, but still there is lot of issues with Android... I would guess similar would go for IOs, due to same limitations of small screens.
4) Most of issues people have here would exist in RenPy. Some would be avoided, but porting this game to RenPy, would be a lot of tedious work... and game already runs fine on Windows, and even on Linux, Mac (I have strong hunch this would work on OpenBSD, FreeBSD etc..)
 
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Pretty selfish from you saying that, considering that you get the game for free from a pirate site. :whistle:
Free, as in no work, not free as in no money. It's literally "click a check box on the screen you're on anyway". And oh yeah, free Linux version bundled with the Windows version. Unless the dev is an idiot and unchecks the default "Win + Lin" and checks "Win".

This is not a dev's fault, if players can't maintain their system properly or use hardware which is incompatible to each other.

On the official MotH Discord channel you can see that patrons have less problems with the game as people in this thread. The same goes for people who ask for help (walkthrough etc.). The majority of people who request help are non-patrons. ;)
You can't expect the unwashed masses :p to understand any of that. Remember, these are the same people who post the same issues over and over - they can't even figure out how to use the search, to see the question answered 100 times before in this thread. Or find the tech support thread without being pointed to it, even though it's linked in the OP. Never mind reading the install guide that's in the download. "No tech support needed" is better.

I believe this game would have been easier to do in Ren'Py, with some significant benefits. Am I advocating Faerin switch MotH to Ren'Py? Not at all - there would be significant issues and time needed to do this; the game is simply too far along.
 
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Ok, I just loaded your main save (not the auto) and noticed that Veronica's stats are at 80/80/90.

So if you're trying to get the second set of pics with Veronica and Ashley together in the bathroom again, it's too soon for that. You'll need to progress a little further with Veronica first. I think you need to have her at 100/100/100 to get that option when you talk to her in her room.
Looks like I had to date her first. Since that option appeared after that. Thanks bud :)
 
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If I had rated this game when I first started playing this game, I would have given it a four or a five. Since the developer has been doing these two week updates, I would now rate it a two. I appreciate the effort it takes to get an update out every two weeks and still keep the game looking great. It just seems to me that it has become more like watching porn than playing a game or going through a visual novel. A visual novel has a story and let's be realistic there has never been a story. It's a game where the player has complete specific tasks to move the relationships with various women to the next level. Since the relationships with the main characters have been maxed out, it seems like we have just been getting patches to the game to add additional sex scenes. Some of the updates have required a few achievements but not to the extent that the game required up through the dinner with Claire. Perhaps Faerin is moving toward the end of the game and that would be unfortunate because I think there is a lot more that could be done with this. Even though many of the relationships are maxed out, they could be maintained.

What if Claire was snippy to the kids at dinner and when MC visited her for sex was told that Claire was not in the mood. MC talks to all the family members and while every one has noticed that something is wrong no one knows what it is. Has something happened at work? MC overhears Ashley talking to Sophie about her interest in a teacher (no NTR.) Concerned MC talks to Sophie and learns that Ashley is tired of being treated as a kid, MC arranges a sophisticated evening. He has to get theater tickets, get some one to help him pick out an elegant dress for Ashley, and find an appropriate gift for a young WOMAN.

Date nights could be double dates. I don't know how difficult it would be to have two relation bars, but you might have to go through the dates four times to get all the outcomes. Fail with both girls get a twosome not including you. Succeed with one girl and not the other, twosome with the girl with whom you were successful. Finally, success with both girls, threesome. There could just be dates with characters that you have not dated like Sophie or additional dates with already dated characters, how about it's Veronica's birthday.

Anyway, I would just like to see fewer updates and more substantial content. I would rather wait six or eight weeks and have a more satisfying experience than wait two weeks and get though the entire update in less than ten minutes. Others may feel differently.
 
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If I had rated this game when I first started playing this game, I would have given it a four or a five. Since the developer has been doing these two week updates, I would now rate it a two. I appreciate the effort it takes to get an update out every two weeks and still keep the game looking great. It just seems to me that it has become more like watching porn than playing a game or going through a visual novel. A visual novel has a story and let's be realistic there has never been a story. It's a game where the player has complete specific tasks to move the relationships with various women to the next level. Since the relationships with the main characters have been maxed out, it seems like we have just been getting patches to the game to add additional sex scenes. Some of the updates have required a few achievements but not to the extent that the game required up through the dinner with Claire. Perhaps Faerin is moving toward the end of the game and that would be unfortunate because I think there is a lot more that could be done with this. Even though many of the relationships are maxed out, they could be maintained.

What if Claire was snippy to the kids at dinner and when MC visited her for sex was told that Claire was not in the mood. MC talks to all the family members and while every one has noticed that something is wrong no one knows what it is. Has something happened at work? MC overhears Ashley talking to Sophie about her interest in a teacher (no NTR.) Concerned MC talks to Sophie and learns that Ashley is tired of being treated as a kid, MC arranges a sophisticated evening. He has to get theater tickets, get some one to help him pick out an elegant dress for Ashley, and find an appropriate gift for a young WOMAN.

Date nights could be double dates. I don't know how difficult it would be to have two relation bars, but you might have to go through the dates four times to get all the outcomes. Fail with both girls get a twosome not including you. Succeed with one girl and not the other, twosome with the girl with whom you were successful. Finally, success with both girls, threesome. There could just be dates with characters that you have not dated like Sophie or additional dates with already dated characters, how about it's Veronica's birthday.

Anyway, I would just like to see fewer updates and more substantial content. I would rather wait six or eight weeks and have a more satisfying experience than wait two weeks and get though the entire update in less than ten minutes. Others may feel differently.
I disagree on that what you're saying you want to make the game more grindy and annoying because you have to up their moods that's just annoying no fun in that and the thing is the game is going to end you have the max out of the game of course i still wish that we can have fun with all the girls who we haven't fun with like coffeshop girl, secretary etc. or a scene with Amy alone without veronica I love veronica but it feels like Amy is only interested in veronica not the mc and the thing with not getting a scene because you fail something is annoying too because you have to play the game then more than one time or have to make many saves and that is something that I hate the most to many devs are doing stupid things like that I don't know why devs destroying a good game with decisions that let you not see every scene and something like that I don't want to play games more than one time and that is with all games besides of course sandbox games because there you do what you want and start something new but story driven games should never have bullshit like decision that prevent you having all scenes but this is just my opinion on it
 

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I would rather wait six or eight weeks and have a more satisfying experience than wait two weeks and get though the entire update in less than ten minutes.
Do you know play every two weeks isn't mandatory, don't you? I mean, you can wait and play 2, 3 or more updates at one go. The experience may be different for you.
 
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