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Well, let me see... Did you say the same premise? So basically the MC is a young guy of 18, living with his mother and his two sisters. Lil' sis is a sweetheart and big sis is a bitch. Hu-ho, this one isn't in high school anymore? Shit! Will he try to corrupt his entire family and all the girls around while exploring the city? Duh, what else would he do? play Majong online maybe? I don't know how many there are on F95 and even other platforms, but it's probably one of the most common premises in the Western AVN world. hundreds only on F95?
Well, to your credit, you were aiming pretty close to the target with BB, at least regarding the premise of the game, except that here, no hornet in the hive to NTRing all the girls into your harem.

Oops! sorry sis, I thought it was Eric the hornet
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In defense of Faerin - while the origin story is tropy as hell (I didn't know that at the time of playing), it's in the execution where it differs from other games. Usually these games will have you glued to the family members instead of going out and discovering locations - and I felt the locations were just as much a part of the charm. While the landlord and tenant are somewhat standard, other characters are definitely not. Pam and officer Daisy are definitely outliers that shape the bigger story, while your household three are out doing yoga on the roof...
 
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It depends a bit on how the OS handles it or the software that's used to open the archive.
Since the native integration of zip into Windows it can handle zip quite well, as if the file was a directory. They even called it a compressed directory even if it was nothing else than a zip file.
I suggested someone to run a game from a uncompressed zip file that had many thousand single files and took four times as much space on HD than the sum of file sizes.
Now with 7z and RAR integrated, Windows 11 should behave similar.
I also tried with several games (Ren'Py and Unity) to open the archive with Windows file explorer, then choose "run", but the files do not seem to launch. Maybe it would work if I unzip the archive and then archive it again with 0 compression? But I guess this will definitely cause errors during execution.

In defense of Faerin - while the origin story is tropy as hell (I didn't know that at the time of playing), it's in the execution where it differs from other games. Usually these games will have you glued to the family members instead of going out and discovering locations - and I felt the locations were just as much a part of the charm. While the landlord and tenant are somewhat standard, other characters are definitely not. Pam and officer Daisy are definitely outliers that shape the bigger story, while your household three are out doing yoga on the roof...
Ok ok, Don't bite me, kay? :ROFLMAO:
But let's not go into the specific details of the games which are specific to them. I was just talking about the premise, and generally what you can read in "overview". Mal protag 18 years old, living with mommy and so on. You also have the premise with always the same 18 year old guy, but with the variation that he lived with his father. The father being deceased - for a practical reason of the game - comes back to live with his mother. We could almost speak of an arc-premise. Fortunately, games - but certainly not all - have their own development and some Devs don't just do a sort of copy/paste from start to finish. We must also take into account that Faerin was a precursor in the AVN world with "MotH", at the time of the creation of the game, so I consider that his model and his mechanism have been largely plagiarized by other Devs.
I agree. Exploring around the map and in different locations is definitely a plus in a game like this. Fortunately, nowadays we find exploration and free roaming more often. Luckily, we've moved beyond playing games behind closed doors to get a little more puss... Um... I mean adventure :p . Character development is very important too. Not just with a different physique, but their personality, their occupations, their past. But I'm going to stop there before forming a wall
 
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We must also take into account that Faerin was a precursor in the AVN world with "MotH", at the time of the creation of the game, so I consider that his model and his mechanism have been largely plagiarized by other Devs.
I wouldn't know about the exact timeline but this phenomenon of course exists. Somebody creates something with an idea which just works - so others copy it, adapt it a little, and it may become so ubiquitous that the original seems the most formulaic piece ever. Over at TV Tropes it used to be called "Seinfeld is unfunny" because said TV series introduced a lot of new ideas, now it is found under (warning, TVT is a massive time sink and a browser capable of handling dozens of tabs would be needed).
 

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Ok ok, Don't bite me, kay? :ROFLMAO:
But let's not go into the specific details of the games which are specific to them. I was just talking about the premise, and generally what you can read in "overview". Mal protag 18 years old, living with mommy and so on. You also have the premise with always the same 18 year old guy, but with the variation that he lived with his father. The father being deceased - for a practical reason of the game - comes back to live with his mother. We could almost speak of an arc-premise. Fortunately, games - but certainly not all - have their own development and some Devs don't just do a sort of copy/paste from start to finish. We must also take into account that Faerin was a precursor in the AVN world with "MotH", at the time of the creation of the game, so I consider that his model and his mechanism have been largely plagiarized by other Devs.
I agree. Exploring around the map and in different locations is definitely a plus in a game like this. Fortunately, nowadays we find exploration and free roaming more often. Luckily, we've moved beyond playing games behind closed doors to get a little more puss... Um... I mean adventure :p . Character development is very important too. Not just with a different physique, but their personality, their occupations, their past. But I'm going to stop there before forming a wall
Haha, I'm sorry if my reaction came off super stern. I should have opened with: We definitely agree on that MOTH (and most family-oriented games) really cuddle that original premise to death. Even the new one, to an extent, uses that original setup. I guess because it's so familiar or because it works so well? It also makes a lot of games seem too similar.

Totally agree, we're starting to see different kinds of bigger games built around the story-driven click games and that's VERY welcome. I actually had no idea how influential MOTH was to the industry, but I have seen devs lending that way of building a game a lot. Chaixas likes doing it, Perverteer as well to a certain degree. Jikei with Mythic Manor as well. It's cool to see that type of game building and expanding. I will say that there is such a thing as too big and cluttered which some games are now suffering from - but Faerin's games are usually a standout for me in terms of length and quality. Really lucky to have his games be the first games to draw me into this community.
 
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Really lucky to have his games be the first games to draw me into this community.
It was the same for me as well. One of the first games I played, actually. That’s when I discovered F95 and signed up for the first time on the site.
The second time - with this account - was when I belatedly discovered that my other half was also registered "secretly".
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Long story short, back in the day brossing the browser history...

Me: "Calling missus through the house:"Her name"!!! What the fucking jok???

Missus: OOPSY... Are you mad at me? :cry:

Me: You.... You were on this site? :censored:

Missus: "her face contorted with shame and nowhere to hide" crap crap crap

Me: Are you kidding me? It's awsome! Look! "brossing the site" It's my account here, naughty girl... :LOL:

Missus: W-WHAaaat??? No way o_O

What a memorable day it was. :giggle:
Now? We basically fight for the keyboard and play together, like two teenagers :ROFLMAO:
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As for MotH, it may not be the first, but probably one of the ones that took the AVN genre to the current level. At least, those who are in the same vein in terms of different kinks and tags. There are other development models depending on the type of kink the Dev wants to include in their game, although the basis remains very similar for most of them. I exclude the Japanese model which remains a genre in itself.
 
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Damn well congrats



I must be. i swear there was a highly popular game on here with a somewhat similar premise that got abandoned. In my head it was this one

EDIT: i figured it out. its Big Brother https://f95zone.to/threads/big-brother-v0-13-0-007-dark-silver.1519/

in fact the more i look at this page the more i realized i have probably played this to completion. (the phone uses the whatsapp text tone rigbht? or it did? sorry im at the point where ive played too many games from here now XD)
Sisterly Lust is pretty much this exact same game without the sandbox. Better endings though. ;)
It is also finished long time ago.
 

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It was the same for me as well. One of the first games I played, actually. That’s when I discovered F95 and signed up for the first time on the site.
The second time - with this account - was when I belatedly discovered that my other half was also registered "secretly".
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Long story short, back in the day brossing the browser history...

Me: "Calling missus through the house:"Her name"!!! What the fucking jok???

Missus: OOPSY... Are you mad at me? :cry:

Me: You.... You were on this site? :censored:

Missus: "her face contorted with shame and nowhere to hide" crap crap crap

Me: Are you kidding me? It's awsome! Look! "brossing the site" It's my account here, naughty girl... :LOL:

Missus: W-WHAaaat??? No way o_O

What a memorable day it was. :giggle:
Now? We basically fight for the keyboard and play together, like two teenagers :ROFLMAO:
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As for MotH, it may not be the first, but probably one of the ones that took the AVN genre to the current level. At least, those who are in the same vein in terms of different kinks and tags. There are other development models depending on the type of kink the Dev wants to include in their game, although the basis remains very similar for most of them. I exclude the Japanese model which remains a genre in itself.
This story, haha! It basically belongs in an AVN, that's how funny it is. Well, I'm glad you both have similar interests!


Sisterly Lust is pretty much this exact same game without the sandbox. Better endings though. ;)
It is also finished long time ago.
Hmmmm... I can see what you're getting at. SL has the corruption with the sisters and the mother. Although the endings might be better in SL (due to the pregnancies, weddings, etc.) - MotH definitely takes the cake in terms of worldbuilding and extra content. SL and MotH are some of the first games I played and they're awesome in their own right. I prefer Faerin's style of writing, although with TFTUV Perv has totally stepped up his game.

They both deserve remakes in my opinion. I think MotH is the better 'game' because there's just so much to do. SL might be a better story - albeit there are some stupid things in SL.
 
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Sisterly Lust is pretty much this exact same game without the sandbox. Better endings though. ;)
It is also finished long time ago.
Hmmm, I tend to disagree here - since tastes differ of course. While SL is an enjoyable read, the pacing is very different (pacing is important to me), SL is extremely fast paced, especially with some non-sisters, and while also having an adoring little sis and a bratty bigger sis, (plus as an extra a naive even older sis), the family dynamic feels completely different to me as well. I also consider it more rough in the development (of the relationships, not the game). Granted, I may have rose tinted glasses for this one since it was my first major adult game (as compared to some 3 LI short VNs I discovered earlier), even though not the one that brought me here, nor anybody else in my home (nice story btw), but I think these two games are quite different apart from the general setting of "boy moving in and having fun". Also MotH MC seems more mature (-ish) to me than the guy from SL.
 
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Hmmm, I tend to disagree here - since tastes differ of course. While SL is an enjoyable read, the pacing is very different (pacing is important to me), SL is extremely fast paced, especially with some non-sisters, and while also having an adoring little sis and a bratty bigger sis, (plus as an extra a naive even older sis), the family dynamic feels completely different to me. I also consider it more rough in the development (of the relationships, not the game). Granted, I may have rose tinted glasses for this one since it was my first major adult game (as compared to some 3 LI short VNs I discovered earlier), even though not the one that brought me here, nor anybody else in my home (nice story btw), but I think these two games are quite different apart from the general setting of "boy moving in and having fun". Also MotH MC seems more mature (-ish) to me than the guy from SL.
I think I played Moth first - in any case there was not a big time difference between these two games - and I tend to agree. They are both good in their own ways, but storywise quite different. In SL I didn't like that the ending was so focused on pregnancy, it's not that easy.
MotH is also a lot more lighthearted, focused on fun, some pranks and so on, there's almost no drama at all. I would definitly not say they are the same game.
 

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This story, haha! It basically belongs in an AVN, that's how funny it is. Well, I'm glad you both have similar interests!
Heh, sorry if I get a little carried away sometimes, but when we chat or debate or whatever here, things get confusing quickly without explaining who the fucking nuts ♂Brout&Minou♀ are, since we both engage in conversation in different threads. So we chose to do it with humor, by telling some of our anecdotes, either which link us to the site, or to the storyline of the thread game. And yes! We are two nutcases and a very open-minded couple with not much to hide.
You are not the first to make this remark, though. I have to say that we often find inspiration here, for our own new adventures, but it could be the other way around, for sure. However, we don't have what it takes to throw ourself and make our own AVN. The time, the patience, the knowledge required.
I know I know. I'm still blabering, heh? :p
Btw, Im Brout. I'll let you guess who's missus

 
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Heh, sorry if I get a little carried away sometimes, but when we chat or debate or whatever here, things get confusing quickly without explaining who the fucking nuts ♂Brout&Minou♀ are, since we both engage in conversation in different threads. So we chose to do it with humor, by telling some of our anecdotes, either which link us to the site, or to the storyline of the thread game. And yes! We are two nutcases and a very open-minded couple with not much to hide.
You are not the first to make this remark, though. I have to say that we often find inspiration here, for our own new adventures, but it could be the other way around, for sure. However, we don't have what it takes to throw ourself and make our own AVN. The time, the patience, the knowledge required.
I know I know. I'm still blabering, heh? :p
Btw, Im Brout. I'll let you guess who's missus

Well met Brout, as long as it's passion energy it's always good for me!

As far as the stories go, don't hesitate to put ideas or inspiration on paper. If anything, there is a surplus of talented technical people who can create technical frameworks for games or graphics with beautiful avatars. There is more than enough room for compelling, even average stories. Most games are passable at grand storyline level, but totally dip into shit when things get detailed. No wonder so many games are using tropy situations and porn dialog where the developer just randomly mashed buttons on the keyboard to figure out a response. :LOL: Trust me, a good story wil stay relevant longer than computer graphics ever will.

That's also something I admire about Faerin's way of approaching the game. There is always a story within a story, and often times even a small story within that. For example:

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Well met Brout, as long as it's passion energy it's always good for me!

As far as the stories go, don't hesitate to put ideas or inspiration on paper. If anything, there is a surplus of talented technical people who can create technical frameworks for games or graphics with beautiful avatars. There is more than enough room for compelling, even average stories. Most games are passable at grand storyline level, but totally dip into shit when things get detailed. No wonder so many games are using tropy situations and porn dialog where the developer just randomly mashed buttons on the keyboard to figure out a response. :LOL: Trust me, a good story wil stay relevant longer than computer graphics ever will.

That's also something I admire about Faerin's way of approaching the game. There is always a story within a story, and often times even a small story within that. For example:

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Oh we already thought about it, and even wrote a few drafts, but it turned out to be very difficult for several reasons. Having an already busy life, the time factor is predominant. Then, the "adventures" from which we could draw inspiration to give, are for the most part intertwined with our private life and our profession, which itself consists of two lines of work, both requiring the greatest discretion, i.e. to the various contracts that we honor, or out of ethics towards our clients/patients. Names, places, brands cannot be revealed. So, a full-time job to first write this down in a draft, and then do several proofreadings in order to make it into fiction. But maybe one day we will have time, who knows?

As for what you say next, I'll try to keep it short for once. We are certainly in the 25% of people who like small stories within big ones. Even though we greatly appreciate very light games with silly characters that are made to relax, the ones that give us the most satisfaction are those that reveal their mysteries hidden behind all different NPCs. I said it in another post, I had started this game in its first versions, and it was only recently that I discovered that it was finally completed, and that we were able to replay it completely with great pleasure. Not only has he not aged too much, but he is a good example of how it should be done.
Oops, I said I was going to keep it short and I keep blabbering on and on :giggle:

Hmmm, the signs around your username kind of give it away, don't they? Also, while I never heard "Minou" as such before it is similar enough to some female (nick)names to let me venture an educated guess ;)
Hmmm :unsure: I think your assumptions are correct. As for the nickname, there is a story that goes back quite a long way behind it, and it is not a story for children, as you might imagine. Not sure if this thread is the ideal place to reveal this mystery, but it could perfectly be the basis of a plot. Brout, refers to the verb “graze”. BrouMinou - which was initially my nickname before discovering that missus was also in the party, refers to the nickname that - girls to be more precise - had given me at university (I heard that I 'excelled orally, and not just in studies). Minou is also the nickname I always gave to Missus. It has two meanings. The first refers to a cute little cat, as I could call it honey. The second, how could I put that.. Hehehe. yes that's exactly what you're thinking ;)
 
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The content itself is incest but there is an incest patch. Can someone explain it to me?
Sycho probably has a better answer for this - but I played a version of the game where the girls were your roommates, you all were tenants and the woman was your landlady. I'm thinking the patch will change the way the game addresses the women.

Actual screenshot from the version I played:

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