RobertoSuarez

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Nov 19, 2023
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I love the game but there seem to be two things that are worrying from a point of view of quality (and that makes me think that the creator works his ass off on this and some things could be simpler):
- The creator doesn't seem to know how to use dynamic lists (everything is fixed size: two kids, the amount of slaves, the books in existance, etc.)
- There seems to be a lot of manual repetition, that leads to disconnected things: the schedule of the businesses, sexual acts that create wear but don't provide sexual experience, the travel times, to name a few.
 

RobertoSuarez

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Nov 19, 2023
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Are we really intended to wait like 5 game years to have sex with Laika? I get that it's better to play it safe but it has to be one of the longest blueballs in any porn game I've ever played. I know that you can age her up but it seems like such a cheat.
Talk to her and you can age her up.
 

Kavalor

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That is why the main part of the game - the household is currently reworked from the ground up - as the game has become a lot more than was initially intended
 

Gunner Rey

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Are we really intended to wait like 5 game years to have sex with Laika? I get that it's better to play it safe but it has to be one of the longest blueballs in any porn game I've ever played. I know that you can age her up but it seems like such a cheat.
Well, the reason you can have sex with her now when she comes of age and that there's renders is because I played those five years and wanted her as a reward to myself. I'm hardly the only one who has played five or more years in one run.
 
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Porrvald

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Well, the reason you can have sex with her now when she comes of age and that there's renders is because I played those five years and wanted her as a reward to myself. I'm hardly the only one who has played five or more years in one run.
I'm curious, how you spend those years?

I'm guessing you must have run out of quests in the first year and then mostly just spend a few months training a single girl before moving on to the next?
 

Porrvald

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About the selling price of slave.

For nearly all attributes, the sell price goes up by some hundreds if you managed to train it to over X0 (30, 40 ...), usually the value is X00 (100, 300, 500, 1000..., 1200 at most), in short, more capable, higher price.
If you want to know the details, read the codes part below.

If you sent her to school for many days for a higher sell price, then it's completely not worthy.
Her fearness should be low.
She should not be a whore (with high oral, pussy or anal wear).

Besides, you have some explicit directions to go.
1, Beautiful
It's not worthy to apply a plastic surgery to slave if you cannot increase her beauty to 75 with wearings, accessories and piercings. But if her beauty can reach 75 and even 78, do plastic surgery for her, the best beauty value is 88.

2, Younger
Usually age 18 is the best, a little older will decrease her price by a lot.

3, Obedient
The lower the willpower, the higher the sell price, it applies to all slaves, best is <= -3.

4, Virgin
virgin, capable, obedient, low corruption, but oral xp can go higher.
An obedient, young and not corrupted virgin's price goes up by $5000

5, PURE trait value >= 70
capable, obedient, low corruption, but oral xp can go higher.

6, Corrupted
It's an otherwise case, if you cannot make her a pure one, increase her corruption as possible.

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I believe that you get a lot of bonuses for selling at the slave market (world position; wopos = 93), such as increased price for slaves with willpower as low as -15.
 

Tastetester12

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I want to make sure I'm not missing something: There's no way to make mercenaries/slaves start in melee range like you can with high skills? Bug, or WAI?

Also, noticed that random slave market girls seem to cost more when I'm bidding on them than when I let the auction go along without taking part. This makes me wonder if there's a skill roll involved in bidding or something. Anyone know what goes into determining the price when you buy a girl?
You're not the only one whose noticed that, but at least it seems the prices don't go up as high anymore. I once purchased a girl in a previous update for about 12-15k because the prices just kept going up and up, and when I checked to see how much she would be worth if I were to sell her back, it was actually less than what I bought her for. Which, was funny because now she's a demonically corrupt slave and famous escort who also possesses a genius level intellect, military level discipline, academic and science skill requirements surpassing the requirements to teach as a professor (speaking of which, I think a career that benefits from both would be good, perhaps the private tutor for a noble or something), and about 50 medicine skill.
Girl has incredible sexual prowess, a master scholar education and the technical and medical knowledge needed to be support type quatermistress (her combat stats aren't that high since I mostly use non-slave followers), and she's valued less than she was when I got her for some reason. And she's only aged a year.
 
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Gunner Rey

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I'm curious, how you spend those years?

I'm guessing you must have run out of quests in the first year and then mostly just spend a few months training a single girl before moving on to the next?
Training slavegirls for the most part. Taking the forts on Marston Ave and Stokke Hills every time the bandits show up, for both training, faction building and monetary purposes. I want to build perfect little slavegirls, 100+ Dex, Acrobatics, Dancing, and all sexual skills plus 70 or so Strength, Performance, Kindess, Respect, and at least one or two more skills. 120 Stamina is first though, and at least basic combat skills with some of them 100+ combat stats Warrioresses, whether they started with it or not.

I don't mind the 'grind' as much because I like (in my mind) living in Raana. I like thinking of going to bars to play cards with naked teenagers crawling around on the floor getting their bellies filled. Or winning a hand and going downstairs to whip, fuck and blow down the throat of a helpless naked slut. I like knowing that after a hard days fight taking back the fort in Stokke Hills for the umpteenth time that Ansel, Bud, the Space Marine and I will be gangfucking our lovely teammate Rebecca into submission and she'll just love it. Every other Friday Roo and Walton and I take turns spit-roasting little Dakota so they don't mind as much that I went into business with a competitor.

During the day I train, at night I fight--and do the above. I like playing that way.
 

heerwa2

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Apr 14, 2020
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Hello goody sir. recently i meet (Not-sure-if-a-bug), i released a slave because there was no room, although i gave her adquite money, weapons and armors. She still weeped and said will live somewhere on the street under the freaking eaves until i changed mind & bring her back again! So, why on the street/ under the eaves? Was she intending to make her lovely young master ashamed? This is truely amused me. Yea, what an idea if your slave doesn't want to leave but you forced her to be a homeless, guess what the public and other nobles will say? Will this makes you lose face? Even more, if she had friends & enemies among your slaves, guess what other slaves would think of you? Will they by chance aid her or else? Is there a way to show a slave's life after you drove her out? The possible bug i meet was, when i decide to take her back, she is no where to be found. By the way, is it possible to release slaves to make them supporting your businesses? For example there was a pair of sisters who was running a store in a very dangerous area, they hired guards, why not to hire your released slaves instead? And there was a poor girl you saved from Asian laundry, you gave her money to update her house but she gaves you nothing, why not to make her running a whorehouse using her own house and your released slaves? Anyhow, Thank you so much for such a wonderful game, it feels almast alive, the possiblilty of this game is unlimited, you are a maker of a world!
 
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Kavalor

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That will be possible in the next version. In the current version, I think with the exception of Michelle - slaves which are sold are deleted. Grimdark is just in the process to overhaul the Slave/NPC Framework as well as the household ... public release expected at somepoint in Q1 2024. After that it should be possible to recapture/ hire back your NPC's
 
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Porrvald

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| Time of day and in game days spent
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So there are 2 values that deal with days spend in the game
The days variable and the daycount, daycount seems to be what really matters in the code.

JavaScript:
days // starts at 1 and tracks the amount days the player spent ingame.
daycount // starts at 82, it's use is not clear.
Time behaves in 6 minutes intervals like this:
8:00 = 80
8:30 = 85
11:00 = 110
11:30 = 115
23:00 = 230

In order for the changes to take effect you need to switch screens in an menu, or travel to an other location.
JavaScript:
// sets the ingame day spent to 100, the effect this has on daycount is unknown
SugarCube.State.active.variables.days = 100

// Set time to 11:00
SugarCube.State.active.variables.gameDate.setHours(11)
SugarCube.State.active.variables.gameDate.setMinutes(00)

// Set time to 15:30
SugarCube.State.active.variables.gameDate.setHours(15)
SugarCube.State.active.variables.gameDate.setMinutes(30)
Force the use of an clock display, use the menu to do this please.
JavaScript:
// Use proper time format like 15:00
SugarCube.State.active.variables.clock = 3

// Use improper time format like 3 pm
SugarCube.State.active.variables.clock = 2
Hmm...

Let me try to clarify the daycount vs displayed time.

daycount is the actual game time, which is invisible to the player, and it works like this:
1 = 00:06 (6 minutes after midnight)
2 = 00:12
5 = 00:30
10 = 01:00
20 = 02:00
70 = 07:00
120 = 12:00 (lunchtime)
180 = 18:00
239 = 23:54 (6 minutes before midnight).
240 = 24:00 (midnight)

There is also a displayed time to let the player know what time it is, because humans are less confused if told that the time is 11:00 PM or 23:00 instead of 230.

This display time is unfortunately not automatically synchronized, so the player needs to adjust it manually, if changing the game time (daycount) and also wanting to see the correct game time in the game.

And that is done like this:
// Set time to 15:30
SugarCube.State.active.variables.gameDate.setHours(15)
SugarCube.State.active.variables.gameDate.setMinutes(30)

TLDR:
Daycount is the actual game time, which has an effect on game play.
setHours and setMinutes only adjusts the time which is shown to the player, but it doesn't affect game play.
 

Daba

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Hmm...

Let me try to clarify the daycount vs displayed time.

daycount is the actual game time, which is invisible to the player, and it works like this:
1 = 00:06 (6 minutes after midnight)
2 = 00:12
5 = 00:30
10 = 01:00
20 = 02:00
70 = 07:00
120 = 12:00 (lunchtime)
180 = 18:00
239 = 23:54 (6 minutes before midnight).
240 = 24:00 (midnight)

There is also a displayed time to let the player know what time it is, because humans are less confused if told that the time is 11:00 PM or 23:00 instead of 230.

This display time is unfortunately not automatically synchronized, so the player needs to adjust it manually, if changing the game time (daycount) and also wanting to see the correct game time in the game.

And that is done like this:
// Set time to 15:30
SugarCube.State.active.variables.gameDate.setHours(15)
SugarCube.State.active.variables.gameDate.setMinutes(30)

TLDR:
Daycount is the actual game time, which has an effect on game play.
setHours and setMinutes only adjusts the time which is shown to the player, but it doesn't affect game play.
So, to change time you need to change 3 variables, daycount and displayed hour and minutes?
For exaple, if I wanted to change time to 12:00, would it go like this?

SugarCube.State.active.variables.days = 120
SugarCube.State.active.variables.gameDate.setHours(12)
SugarCube.State.active.variables.gameDate.setMinutes(00)
 

Porrvald

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So, to change time you need to change 3 variables, daycount and displayed hour and minutes?
For exaple, if I wanted to change time to 12:00, would it go like this?

SugarCube.State.active.variables.days = 120
SugarCube.State.active.variables.gameDate.setHours(12)
SugarCube.State.active.variables.gameDate.setMinutes(00)
Yes, you almost got it :giggle:

SugarCube.State.active.variables.daycount = 120
SugarCube.State.active.variables.gameDate.setHours(12)
SugarCube.State.active.variables.gameDate.setMinutes(00)
 
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Bell Lance

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Also, how do I increase stealth? there is a value of it in my character sheet but in wiki it says through increasing dexterity.
 
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