Kulman

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I don't come on to this forum to read posts about people not liking the game or saying they'll unpledge. Yes he does not communicate very well but the two month gap did turn into a double update.
I mean, did it? I still see nothing on the patreon...

Also I mostly just stated facts here. You have all the right to ignore them, but shutting your ears everytime you hear something you disagree with... well good luck with that.
 

Krynh

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I mean, did it? I still see nothing on the patreon...

Also I mostly just stated facts here. You have all the right to ignore them, but shutting your ears everytime you hear something you disagree with... well good luck with that.
Not the upcoming update, the previous one.
 

Spfjolietjake

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Heh there's another of that in the other thread and so much that the mods have put an official warning.
that i must have missed, which thread has an official warning? (i'm guessing i'm gonna feel a fool when you tell me)
I was wrong I thought you was referring to the giant thread ban warning on dual family x. That thread is toxic already. not saying any is warranted or not just stating it is a dumpster fire of a thread
 
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does this game need a walkthrough coz Im playing on android and The66's post was not labeled to be modded with the wt or the incest patch so I think it is not... just asking
 

mazul

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Sooo, how much is the '48 hours' getting delayed before we get some updates on the overall release delay.
 

The Wicked One

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So I guess I will do the TL/DR first since it is the most applicable. Had some issues, update is about 90% so should be out in next day or two. Also I am still 100% committed to doing 12 updates this year, so should be coming a little more often until I get back on track. That's all most of you need, so the rest is going to be a bit of a long winded explanation so no need to read further.
Most of you know I recently went through a break up. A good, much needed break up, but a break up none the less. Well part of this is due to my obsessive privacy issues, but last year my kid moved out for college as well. I got custody when they were 5, and kinda made my life all about them until I felt they were ready for me to start seeing people. Needless to say a more than a decade long break from the dating pool kinda threw a wrench in my love life, so I was maybe a bit too accepting of faults with my now ex because it was just nice to have someone intimate again.
Anyway, this marked the first time I lived actually alone in almost 20 years. At first I was thrilled, I barely had to wear pants haha. But somehow, still not even sure how, I just started to get less and less energetic. I eventually even did something very stupid and got in a spot of trouble, then people near me found out what I did and I felt even worse. I just kinda of slowly stopped everything. I quit showering, didn't really eat much, couldn't stay asleep for more than a couple of hours. It was my first brush with anything like this, so I honestly thought I was 'fine' even while I skipped my shower for the 20th day in a row and watched videos about shit I have no interest in. Last night marked the first time in a few weeks I actually slept 8 hours rather than small increments throughout the day. Woke up feeling refreshed, sun is shining and it has warmed up enough I actually got my walk in as well. I have to be vigilant of course, now that I know there is a precipice there, but I am going to try to be more active on discord and post weekly updates here just to keep me connected. Those updates may be one or two sentences just saying all is well, but I think it will help me stay focused. I understand a bunch of folks didn't get discord invite, so I will post an invite here. I truly appreciate those of you who had enough faith to stick around, I was basically mute for an entire month so I have my work cut out to make it up to everyone. Also I will be answering all the messages soon, I want to get the update out first.
 

Grubb

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So I guess I will do the TL/DR first since it is the most applicable. Had some issues, update is about 90% so should be out in next day or two. Also I am still 100% committed to doing 12 updates this year, so should be coming a little more often until I get back on track. That's all most of you need, so the rest is going to be a bit of a long winded explanation so no need to read further.
Most of you know I recently went through a break up. A good, much needed break up, but a break up none the less. Well part of this is due to my obsessive privacy issues, but last year my kid moved out for college as well. I got custody when they were 5, and kinda made my life all about them until I felt they were ready for me to start seeing people. Needless to say a more than a decade long break from the dating pool kinda threw a wrench in my love life, so I was maybe a bit too accepting of faults with my now ex because it was just nice to have someone intimate again.
Anyway, this marked the first time I lived actually alone in almost 20 years. At first I was thrilled, I barely had to wear pants haha. But somehow, still not even sure how, I just started to get less and less energetic. I eventually even did something very stupid and got in a spot of trouble, then people near me found out what I did and I felt even worse. I just kinda of slowly stopped everything. I quit showering, didn't really eat much, couldn't stay asleep for more than a couple of hours. It was my first brush with anything like this, so I honestly thought I was 'fine' even while I skipped my shower for the 20th day in a row and watched videos about shit I have no interest in. Last night marked the first time in a few weeks I actually slept 8 hours rather than small increments throughout the day. Woke up feeling refreshed, sun is shining and it has warmed up enough I actually got my walk in as well. I have to be vigilant of course, now that I know there is a precipice there, but I am going to try to be more active on discord and post weekly updates here just to keep me connected. Those updates may be one or two sentences just saying all is well, but I think it will help me stay focused. I understand a bunch of folks didn't get discord invite, so I will post an invite here. I truly appreciate those of you who had enough faith to stick around, I was basically mute for an entire month so I have my work cut out to make it up to everyone. Also I will be answering all the messages soon, I want to get the update out first.
As far as Nefastus goes, I was never under the impression he was doing anything scummy (the possible double meaning of my milk carton joke was lost on me hahah). I was honestly worried something happened regarding the breakup, the thought "holy crap did she break into his house or something" crossed my mind for a second heh. Anyway in all seriousness, good to know he's back to not being a mute.
 

The Wicked One

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As far as Nefastus goes, I was never under the impression he was doing anything scummy (the possible double meaning of my milk carton joke was lost on me hahah). I was honestly worried something happened regarding the breakup, the thought "holy crap did she break into his house or something" crossed my mind for a second heh. Anyway in all seriousness, good to know he's back to not being a mute.
As a patron, I am severely disaapointed how Nefastus handled last month...
As a being that somewhat resembles a human; however, I do hope he is well, and sorts his mental health out. Not showering for "the 20th day" is indicative of some other issues that he needs to resolve before trying to continue on with a porn VN. Taking care of one's mental health is paramount.
 

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As a patron, I am severely disaapointed how Nefastus handled last month...
As a being that somewhat resembles a human; however, I do hope he is well, and sorts his mental health out. Not showering for "the 20th day" is indicative of some other issues that he needs to resolve before trying to continue on with a porn VN. Taking care of one's mental health is paramount.
It sounds like he's suffering from undiagnosed Clinical Depression. It's hard for people who haven't either dealt with it themselves or witnessed a loved one go through it, but doing something as simple as posting an update can be an impossible task when someone is in the throes of a low point.

I hope people go easy on him. He's been a pretty reliable dev for the duration of his game. Sure, he misses deadlines here and there, but on the whole, he's one of the most reliable devs out there. It sounds like he's gotten blindsided by some big changes in his life that were largely negative. That could exacerbate a predisposition to depression or take minor symptoms and make them major, which sounds like what happened here.

It may take him a while for him to get back on his feet. Personally, I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt, even if he goes dark again. It sounds like he has a lot on his plate and he needs support, not criticisms right now.
 

The Wicked One

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It sounds like he's suffering from undiagnosed Clinical Depression. It's hard for people who haven't either dealt with it themselves or witnessed a loved one go through it, but doing something as simple as posting an update can be an impossible task when someone is in the throes of a low point.

I hope people go easy on him. He's been a pretty reliable dev for the duration of his game. Sure, he misses deadlines here and there, but on the whole, he's one of the most reliable devs out there. It sounds like he's gotten blindsided by some big changes in his life that were largely negative. That could exacerbate a predisposition to depression or take minor symptoms and make them major, which sounds like what happened here.

It may take him a while for him to get back on his feet. Personally, I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt, even if he goes dark again. It sounds like he has a lot on his plate and he needs support, not criticisms right now.
Believe me, I understand the depression part.
I know I stated previously that I was going to lower what I give him on Patreon, but I decided to keep it at 5 bucks. I am also giving him the benefit of the doubt, since he has good credibility.
 

HornyyPussy

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It sounds like he's suffering from undiagnosed Clinical Depression. It's hard for people who haven't either dealt with it themselves or witnessed a loved one go through it, but doing something as simple as posting an update can be an impossible task when someone is in the throes of a low point.

I hope people go easy on him. He's been a pretty reliable dev for the duration of his game. Sure, he misses deadlines here and there, but on the whole, he's one of the most reliable devs out there. It sounds like he's gotten blindsided by some big changes in his life that were largely negative. That could exacerbate a predisposition to depression or take minor symptoms and make them major, which sounds like what happened here.

It may take him a while for him to get back on his feet. Personally, I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt, even if he goes dark again. It sounds like he has a lot on his plate and he needs support, not criticisms right now.
Yeah, i couldn't care less if we get the update today or in 3 months. The ONLY thing that matters is that Nefastus is ok, everything else is just window dressing...
 

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Believe me, I understand the depression part.
I know I stated previously that I was going to lower what I give him on Patreon, but I decided to keep it at 5 bucks. I am also giving him the benefit of the doubt, since he has good credibility.
My apologies that I made it seem like I was calling out what you said. I was just piggybacking off of your comments. I actually agree with you when it comes to reducing support on Patreon for non-communication. I do the same. I've been supporting him at the $1 level but will upgrade to the $5 level now that I have the full context. I'm doing that primarily as a gesture of confidence but also because I really should have been at that level considering how much I love his game and how reliable he's been in the months that I've pledged him.

My comment was really aimed at the larger community because I know people's tendency to pile-on in these threads and, since I understand what he's dealing with, I'd like people to think twice before doing so.
 

The Wicked One

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My apologies that I made it seem like I was calling out what you said. I was just piggybacking off of your comments. I actually agree with you when it comes to reducing support on Patreon for non-communication. I do the same. I've been supporting him at the $1 level but will upgrade to the $5 level now that I have the full context. I'm doing that primarily as a gesture of confidence but also because I really should have been at that level considering how much I love his game and how reliable he's been in the months that I've pledged him.

My comment was really aimed at the larger community because I know people's tendency to pile-on in these threads and, since I understand what he's dealing with, I'd like people to think twice before doing so.
Hey, hey, hey. No offense taken, handsome.
It is a strange thing to support, and or gain adoration for, an artist making games.
I know I tend to piss people off with with my cynical outlook, and my criticism for developers, but even I can have a change of pancreas. Honestly, I just hope the silly-bastard is ok. Depression fucking sucks.
 

Shiva0067

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-FAKE- Silly Grumblings -FAKE-

Oh how HORRIBLE Nefastus has been. How can I continue to support a Dev that will NOT give me my GLORIOUS Chocolate Chip Cookies. What will happen next?? Will this game suddenly have Pro-Pancake Propaganda??? Will EVIL Oatmeal Raisin Cookies be added to TORMENT me?? -Sigh- Well at least the game IS fun. Hmm, there is VERY good SEXY fun. OK, I'll continue support for now (if Oatmeal Raisin Cookies show up I MAY have to rethink). :)

-End of Fake-

As stated in my silly rant I LIKE this game. GOOD story, humor, and SEXY fun. Nefastus take care of yourself first. Then work on the game. Then add the Chocolate Chip Cookie content darn it. :) Oh, also do something fun like watching paint dry err maybe fishing or playing a game. :)

Take care everyone, stay safe and healthy. Also, join me in fighting for Chocolate Chip Cookie content. :)

Just a thought
 

Grubb

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As a patron, I am severely disaapointed how Nefastus handled last month...
As a being that somewhat resembles a human; however, I do hope he is well, and sorts his mental health out. Not showering for "the 20th day" is indicative of some other issues that he needs to resolve before trying to continue on with a porn VN. Taking care of one's mental health is paramount.
Oh without question, if it's that bad, he should seek help immediately. It's not something that goes away with a sudden burst of happiness. And yes, he mishandled the past month, as it wouldn't have taken much effort to say "yo, shit's bad for me".

Still I believe he isn't malicious in any way, unlike some milkers that pull in dozens of thousands a month we have around here. So he might deserve the benefit of the doubt for his patrons. Of course, that's to be decided by everyone paying him.

For me to say I care about this guy's well-being is something incredibly rare. I truly hope he gets some help and quick. If he's really suffering from that, it's not going away by itself.
 
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