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Except there's nothing random about it?
All abandoned tags on this site mean nothing and this game is proof. It's been on this game before and then removed when the game was updated. It happens on a lot of games. It's a guess that doesn't mean anything.

I get that it's a tool to warn people that a game hasn't been updated in a while and the dev has been silent, but everyone treats the tag as gospel when it's anything but.
 

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Family Matters
Corrupted Love
Family Man
C-Plan
Buried Desires
My Sweet Neighbors
Lewd Story
My Lovely Sara
Love and Submission
Duality
The Roots of Lust
Wings of Silicon
Divergence BtS
Family Again
False Hero
Bad Teacher
My Model Daughter
Oopsy Daisy
Bad Days
Bloody Passion
A.O.A. Academy
Redwood
Stay True Stay You
New Life with My Daughter
Angel of Innocence

That's just a short list of the games I was actually following, playing and getting into. I just can't let myself get invested in these games anymore. They finish, or they don't.
Lots of good games on that list and it's sad to see it.

I think the subscriber business model is fundamental to this.

It has good a bad sides.

On the good side:
- a dev can get a bit of motivation money, this may make him stick around longer than if it were just a hobby
- us players can watch a story being built up and can interact with the dev and other players about that

On the bad side:
- At some point a dev may still lose interest, leading to abandonment of a game where people feel invested in, either as actual "investors" or just as players.

Overall I don't know. But I do know that at this moment, we have way more, and better, adult games than back in the days when only a handful of Japanese studio's were making them. I guess we actually (and reluctantly) have to thank Patreon for that...
 

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If you're a dev it's not that hard to avoid an abandoned tag, you literally just have to post somewhere (other than discord iirc), saying "yo, I'm alive there's difficulties, games not abandoned" and boom the tag is avoided.

3 months of silence is more than enough time for the abandoned tag, I don't think this is abandoned yet but, it won't be the first case of a dev biting off more than he can chew story wise gets frustrated and throwing the baby out with the bath water, nor will it be the last.
And then you have some devs like timepants with Exiles who used to post here and on patreon up until a year ago saying the game's not abandoned. He's still posting on discord but the game will be 3 years without an update in May.
 
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Pedrocas77

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And this is why i stopped supporting devs until the *COMPLETE* tag is up, or they can be trusted to follow though to the end.

RIP, my first and fav game from this site.

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Ive learned that lesson well, the 4 games ive supported as high tier only 1 was completed. Never again, thats why i lmao when a white knight comes and says REEEEEEEEEE you cant complain because you're getting it for free ...
 

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I, of course, am also upset that the game was labeled “abandoned,” however, there have already been examples of the game being revived, so it may be too early to put an end to this game. Well, I hope so, because the product, although without animations, is not bad at all.
 
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Just my 5 cents here. It seems we're seeing more and more of these games being abandoned. Quite a few that I've been following have met that fate as of late. Common thread with all of them is that as good as they start out pretty soon there are too many choices, too many path options, this is avoidable and that is avoidable. As great as all of that might seem at some point it has to become a developmental nightmare that leads to frustration and burn out and the dev walks away. For most of the creators here it's a side gig not a full time job so I get why updates sometimes take months to come about and lets not forget, sometimes life just happens.
 

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Just my 5 cents here. It seems we're seeing more and more of these games being abandoned. Quite a few that I've been following have met that fate as of late. Common thread with all of them is that as good as they start out pretty soon there are too many choices, too many path options, this is avoidable and that is avoidable. As great as all of that might seem at some point it has to become a developmental nightmare that leads to frustration and burn out and the dev walks away. For most of the creators here it's a side gig not a full time job so I get why updates sometimes take months to come about and lets not forget, sometimes life just happens.
It's only abandoned according F95's rules. Nef have done this before (albeit last time he was in the hospital). It's way to early to write this of as abandoned.
 
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It's only abandoned according F95's rules. Nef have done this before (albeit last time he was in the hospital). It's way to early to write this of as abandoned.
I agree it's too early to really consider it abandoned. That said IIRC Nef had personal issues>writer's block>non-canon episode>radio silence leading to abandoned tag. Which to me is a pattern that flashes the warning lights. (that we might not see Jennifer and Amanda applying cocoa butter to each other's preggo bellies)
 

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Being a dev is hard. It's a lot of work for not a lot of gains. It can really take a toll on your mental health. So I understand where Nef is coming from and I wish him good health.

I worked my ass off for 18 months on my game. It was basically a second job. All that work for barely 30 patrons and 150 $ a month. For the last update, I barely did anything else with my free time. Then it came out, and I kept reading "Only 400 renders?" Like all this was easy and I worked on it full time. I busted my ass on some scenes and ladies I was sure would get a mention, but nothing. Some people who played the game for free suddenly said the game sucked because the character they liked said something they thought she shouldn't have said. Not to mention answering the same inane questions each update or seeing the number of patrons go down two weeks after release, while seeing notorious milkers generate incredible income.

It's my own fault really, I had very high expectations. Like another poster said, I made a way too complex game, especially for my first one. I also thought that if I worked hard, engaged the community, and had a good concept, I could at least work part-time on the game soon enough. How wrong I was.

I understand that players don't want to invest in a game they don't know will be completed. I also understand developers who are tired of all the mostly unpaid work just to be rewarded with negativity and moaning from people who never gave us a cent. The AVN community became a snake that eats its own tail.

Now I'm making a much smaller game at my own pace. I focus on making the best game possible for an eventual Steam release. My patrons are duly warned that I make enough money with my real job to finish the game without any support and that they are doing it because they want to. I'm much happier for it.

Anyway, it's only my two cents. I truly hope this game will have an ending!
 

HornyyPussy

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I agree it's too early to really consider it abandoned. That said IIRC Nef had personal issues>writer's block>non-canon episode>radio silence leading to abandoned tag. Which to me is a pattern that flashes the warning lights. (that we might not see Jennifer and Amanda applying cocoa butter to each other's preggo bellies)
Could be but I prefer to stay hopeful. At least until we hear something definite.
 
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