VN Ren'Py Abandoned Midlife Crisis [v0.34 - v0.1 Dark] [Nefastus Games]

[preglovr12]

and this why 3 month rule is garbage - fucking mandatory 2-4 pages of necrologue what always follows

What should it be then, and how would that difference in time make is so there's any less "necrologue"? If you can't post anything to Patreon for a quarter of a fucking year, why shouldn't you get a tag denoting that?

 

[Cartageno]

Sure, dude. And when this or some other game gets the tag and gets updated is it suddenly un-abandoned? Or was it never abandoned in the first place?

And if a game is programmed in the woods, and nobody downloads it, is it even a game?

 

[c3p0]

And if a game is programmed in the woods, and nobody downloads it, is it even a game?

And what if Schröedinger's Cat make a game?

 

[Cartageno]

And what if Schröedinger's Cat make a game?

Then it would get the furry tag. Or not. We will only find out if we open the box.

 

[Dark Silence]

Could be but I prefer to stay hopeful. At least until we hear something definite.

I think whoever tagged it abandoned is jumpin the gun just slightly. Hell, some of these devs get 6 months before the tag hits. They need to be consistent with this shit.

 

[Deleted member 313508]

What should it be then, and how would that difference in time make is so there's any less "necrologue"? If you can't post anything to Patreon for a quarter of a fucking year, why shouldn't you get a tag denoting that?

Honestly? The tag should be something else. Like Inactive or something. A tag implying things have gone dark and may or may not be resumed as opposed to assuming they KNOW it'll never be resumed. Saying something is abandoned is like trying to prove a universal negative. A Dev could go silent for months and then suddenly update his game or he/she may never touch it again. The people of this site will never know.

 

[Ciaran8023]

Honestly? The tag should be something else. Like Inactive or something. A tag implying things have gone dark and may or may not be resumed as opposed to assuming they KNOW it'll never be resumed. Saying something is abandoned is like trying to prove a universal negative. A Dev could go silent for months and then suddenly update his game or he/she may never touch it again. The people of this site will never know.

Honestly, this is pretty spot on.
There have been a lot of times where I've checked on a game that had the abandoned tag, only to have it be updated a week later, while a different game with the same abandoned tag was last updated like 3 years ago.
It's hard to tell at a glance, maybe do something like <6 or 8 months inactivity should be tagged "Inactive" while >6 or 8 months is tagged as "Abandoned" if no other communication has been given.

 

[preglovr12]

Honestly? The tag should be something else. Like Inactive or something. A tag implying things have gone dark and may or may not be resumed as opposed to assuming they KNOW it'll never be resumed. Saying something is abandoned is like trying to prove a universal negative. A Dev could go silent for months and then suddenly update his game or he/she may never touch it again. The people of this site will never know.

Nothing would change though, it'd mean the same thing then as it does now, just with a possibly more accurate name. People would still whine about everything else, which was what I was actually asking about.

 

[Deleted member 313508]

Honestly, this is pretty spot on.
There have been a lot of times where I've checked on a game that had the abandoned tag, only to have it be updated a week later, while a different game with the same abandoned tag was last updated like 3 years ago.
It's hard to tell at a glance, maybe do something like <6 or 8 months inactivity should be tagged "Inactive" while >6 or 8 months is tagged as "Abandoned" if no other communication has been given.

I personally would get rid of abandoned altogether if it were my call. There is an implied finality in that tag and a LOT of people read that into it. Inactive allows the users to make up their own minds relative to how long the game has been inactive or if they have contact with the Dev by some other means.

There's just no way to ever know when/if a game has truly been abandoned short of the Dev saying "I'm done"

 

[Deleted member 313508]

Nothing would change though, it'd mean the same thing then as it does now, just with a possibly more accurate name. People would still whine about everything else, which was what I was actually asking about.

I disagree. As I said a second ago. Abandoned has implications of finality. Inactive does not. People would read into it differently.

Would it keep them from being upset? Maybe not, but the implication of the tags is different.

 

[Cartageno]

People would read

And yet, your info says you've been here since 2017, and are still a hopeless dreamer

 

[Lerd0]

...damn u dudes care too much about what the name of the tag is......doesn't matter what the name is......same reactions will happen....u dum dums.....
...fuckin hell....go fap....touch some grass.......

 

[Deleted member 313508]

...damn u dudes care too much about what the name of the tag is......doesn't matter what the name is......same reactions will happen....u dum dums.....
...fuckin hell....go fap....touch some grass.......
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LOL. Quite the opposite. I'm just tired of seeing pages and pages of people suddenly going apeshit over the abandoned tag when it doesn't mean what the tag says. I honestly thing this site just loves the drama for the traffic it brings and does this stuff on purpose.

 

[Lerd0]

LOL. Quite the opposite. I'm just tired of seeing pages and pages of people suddenly going apeshit over the abandoned tag when it doesn't mean what the tag says. I honestly thing this site just loves the drama for the traffic it brings and does this stuff on purpose.

....why u care tho......u can just walk away....and do smth else....
...it's been what 2 pages....of arguing....tag bad.......

 

[Deleted member 313508]

And yet, your info says you've been here since 2017, and are still a hopeless dreamer

The eternal optimist? lol

 

[The Wicked One]

I personally would get rid of abandoned altogether if it were my call. There is an implied finality in that tag and a LOT of people read that into it. Inactive allows the users to make up their own minds relative to how long the game has been inactive or if they have contact with the Dev by some other means.

There's just no way to ever know when/if a game has truly been abandoned short of the Dev saying "I'm done"

For inactive games, there is an "on hold" tag that signifies that the Dev is still around, they just don't have time to work on the game. As for the "Abandoned" tag, I don't see it as an apocalyptic finality but as a "quick glance of the eye" way to see if a game has been updated while you're scrolling the site. Or a way to see if the developer has gone silent about it. I wish I could say the Abandoned tag helps with the classic "Update When?" question, but I've been surprised more than once on this site.
As for the Dev saying "I'm done", there are so many other games on this site where their silence for months and years speaks volumes.
MLC may not be dead as disco, but by F95zone rules, the dev has been gone for 3 months.

 

[Deleted member 313508]

For inactive games, there is an "on hold" tag that signifies that the Dev is still around, they just don't have time to work on the game. As for the "Abandoned" tag, I don't see it as an apocalyptic finality but as a "quick glance of the eye" way to see if a game has been updated while you're scrolling the site. Or a way to see if the developer has gone silent about it. As for the Dev saying "I'm done", there are so many other games on this site where their silence for months and years speaks volumes.
MLC may not be dead as disco, but by F95zone rules, the dev has been gone for 3 months.

You're basically saying what I've been saying. You and I know the Abandoned tag doesn't actually mean abandoned. But there are many who take it as face value and it causing endless gnawing and nashing of teeth, many times for no reason when the game gets an update a week or a month later.

All I'm saying is change the name of the tag so that fewer people read too much into it.

And "On Hold" is different. That one is actually accurate because it's the Dev saying "I'm on a break" Will they ever come back? Who knows.

 

[c3p0]

LOL. Quite the opposite. I'm just tired of seeing pages and pages of people suddenly going apeshit over the abandoned tag when it doesn't mean what the tag says. I honestly thing this site just loves the drama for the traffic it brings and does this stuff on purpose.

And yet posting one post after another into a game thread and discussing about the prefix "Abandoned" is right, wrong or wahtever.
@ all, this goes most likely against rule 2 of the general rules.

 

[Uthuriel]

dev will come back or not... do something else in the meantime... go touch grass... get married... get divorced... join a cult...
so many options... like bruh...

 

[Deleted member 313508]

And yet posting one post after another into a game thread and discussing about the prefix "Abandoned" is right, wrong or wahtever.
@ all, this goes most likely against rule 2 of the general rules.

Yeah, but now that the rant is out of my system, I feel better.

And I'll patiently await the F95 stazi to blow the whole conversation into the ether.