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The Wicked One

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Oh wtf, it got abandoned??
Just to catch you up, and anyone else who may have wandered in late, quick synopsis: Early December, Nef makes his last Patreon post stating the usual "update is almost done, and sorry for not communicating more" and disappearing shortly after.
Around mid December of 2023, Nef began expressing family troubles on the official MLC Discord thread; something about them "taking advantage of him".
Mid January of 2024, he goes silent on Discord, but his Discord status fluctuated from idle to active during that time.
3 months later, still no correspondence on Discord, or the crowd funding sites, and Midlife Crisis is categorized as Abandoned as per the F95zone rules; however, his status is still online via Discord.
In May 2024, the Discord thread descends into silence from fans with the occasional conspiracy theories tossed about. And it appears someone tried calling him (not confirmed - as someone in the general thread said they tried calling him with no answer) via Discord. The next day, he is offline completely; no idle, no active, just gone.
 
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dp14153

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Watching this, Summertime Saga, and Milfs City's developments has changed the way I support these devs. Instead of a monthly patreon/subscribestar contribution, I just donate 20-25 bucks when they actually release a build.
Yep, this is like those restaurants where you pay when you order and they ask for a tip before you've gotten any service!
 

khaelin02

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Going to miss this one, been checking for updates for a while. I would have loved to have seen the mother join her daughters in sexy times. They teased it a bunch up until latest update, that and his sister with them... would have been fun. Kind of funny, even if she wasn't his daughter, I loved Jennifer the most.
 

PenguinFuhrer

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Aug 21, 2019
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Watching this, Summertime Saga, and Milfs City's developments has changed the way I support these devs. Instead of a monthly patreon/subscribestar contribution, I just donate 20-25 bucks when they actually release a build. We gotta stop rewarding people for no work and start rewarding progress instead. Too many games are falling into this bullshit.
Nothing compared to BlueCat though. 2 years later and still nothing and still has almost 150 people paying him.
He's getting like $120 a month from subscribestar alone and that's just 13 of those
 

Stil996

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In May 2024, the Discord thread descends into silence from fans with the occasional conspiracy theories tossed about. And it appears someone tried calling him (not confirmed - as someone in the general thread said they tried calling him with no answer) via Discord. The next day, he is offline completely; no idle, no active, just gone.
This "calling" theory confuses me... doesn't he have the option to block "calls"?
How does "calling" work on Discord anyway? is it like calling out on a CB Radio or more like dropping a voice message on your answer machine? (I guess receiving a bunch of abusive answer machine messages could do it)
 

The Wicked One

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This "calling" theory confuses me... doesn't he have the option to block "calls"?
How does "calling" work on Discord anyway? is it like calling out on a CB Radio or more like dropping a voice message on your answer machine? (I guess receiving a bunch of abusive answer machine messages could do it)
It's not a "theory". Someone in the thread tried calling him through Discord. They had asked the Discord moderator if he had called him, or heard anything from his personal email, and he said no. To which another user said he tried calling Nef on Discord, but he go no answer. The next day, Nefastus was completely logged off.
And it works like any other chat program that has a voice chat/call functionality.
Also, I am not going to assume he was receiving "abusive answer machine messages" (but knowing some of the people on that Discord channel I wouldn't doubt it), but if I were a developer, and someone crossed that line of anonymity and tried calling me, I would log off of Discord as well. That was fucking not cool.
 

Stil996

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It's not a "theory". Someone in the thread tried calling him through Discord. They had asked the Discord moderator if he had called him, or heard anything from his personal email, and he said no. To which another user said he tried calling Nef on Discord, but he go no answer. The next day, Nefastus was completely logged off.
And it works like any other chat program that has a voice chat/call functionality.
Also, I am not going to assume he was receiving "abusive answer machine messages" (but knowing some of the people on that Discord channel I wouldn't doubt it), but if I were a developer, and someone crossed that line of anonymity and tried calling me, I would log off of Discord as well. That was fucking not cool.
I didn't question that someone called him, I questioned the theory that this is the reason he cut contact!

Telling me it works like any other chat program doesn't help me dude, I don't use chat programs, much less use one to call anyone, that's why I asked. I imagine it's like in-game voice chat, where if you speak and if nobody is listening... it's gone forever!, so if he mutes chat then it's like it never happened... But if it's persistent like a answer machine message that could be a different kettle of fish (particularly if you can't filter strangers who shouldn't be trying to call you from Friends and Family who should).

You seriously think logging off for someone crossing the line by trying to contact you is reasonable?... Can you elaborate why?
Is this is a better option than just Banning/Blocking the offending member? (it's your forum after all, if someone has to go it should be the other guy)
or removing talk privileges from people who shouldn't have it? (My limited experience with Discord has shown some forums block certain functionality unless you have a specific rank, it doesn't seem like a leap to imagine you can block "calls" from everyone who hasn't earned it)

I have to believe there are things that can be done, but maybe there are flaws in the system that removes these as a viable options... Hence the entire reason for my question.

BTW you mentioned that he gave an ETA on the next release, do you know if that was a "firm" ETA or a hopeful ETA, the last post from him that I recall mentioned that he was suffering from writers block (hence the dark route currently in the OP)... Writers Block can be a real bitch to get over and it never seems to go away for long (particularly if there is other drama going on in your life).

Again for clarity's sake this post is made purely to try clear up confusion, No judgment on anyone, No sarcasm or ill will, just seeking comprehension!
 

The Wicked One

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I didn't question that someone called him, I questioned the theory that this is the reason he cut contact!

Telling me it works like any other chat program doesn't help me dude, I don't use chat programs, much less use one to call anyone, that's why I asked. I imagine it's like in-game voice chat, where if you speak and if nobody is listening... it's gone forever!, so if he mutes chat then it's like it never happened... But if it's persistent like a answer machine message that could be a different kettle of fish (particularly if you can't filter strangers who shouldn't be trying to call you from Friends and Family who should).

You seriously think logging off for someone crossing the line by trying to contact you is reasonable?... Can you elaborate why?
Is this is a better option than just Banning/Blocking the offending member? (it's your forum after all, if someone has to go it should be the other guy)
or removing talk privileges from people who shouldn't have it? (My limited experience with Discord has shown some forums block certain functionality unless you have a specific rank, it doesn't seem like a leap to imagine you can block "calls" from everyone who hasn't earned it)

I have to believe there are things that can be done, but maybe there are flaws in the system that removes these as a viable options... Hence the entire reason for my question.

BTW you mentioned that he gave an ETA on the next release, do you know if that was a "firm" ETA or a hopeful ETA, the last post from him that I recall mentioned that he was suffering from writers block (hence the dark route currently in the OP)... Writers Block can be a real bitch to get over and it never seems to go away for long (particularly if there is other drama going on in your life).

Again for clarity's sake this post is made purely to try clear up confusion, No judgment on anyone, No sarcasm or ill will, just seeking comprehension!
Hey, didn't mean to confuse you, compadre.

First part - Apologies, I should have clarified, but I am not sure the why/theory he cut contact. All I know is the day before he left, someone stated they called him.

Second - Sorry for assuming you had any other chat program; messenger, facetime, Discord, cellphone, but yes, you can make audio/voice calls via Discord like making a Telephone call. Someone simply said they tried to call him via Discord. I assume Nef on the other end either got the call via his phone, or PC, and was like "WTF?"

Third - Because of the anonymity. And because if one or two "fans" on a Discord try calling, more than likely more will try. If I were Developer behind an anonymous name to protect my privacy, and someone(s) called me from a Discord thread filled with people I don't actually know, instead of wasting my time blocking them all I would just log off to end all communication via any channel on Discord; whether it be messages, video call, or audio call.

Last - His usual ETAs were always just an incredibly vague "soon" or "almost done", or whatever. And long time fans knew that "soon" could either mean 3 days, 3 weeks, or 3 months. He never said, and I never said, there was an ETA. And with as long as he has been gone now, I would not hold your breath on a release anytime soon... but he could return and prove me wrong.
 
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dorleans

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Nothing compared to BlueCat though. 2 years later and still nothing and still has almost 150 people paying him.
He's getting like $120 a month from subscribestar alone and that's just 13 of those
I don't know why everybody talks about this sort of thing like it's the dev's fault. All those payments are 100 percent voluntary. If, after two years of nothing, someone still hasn't bothered to click "unsubscribe", that's entirely on them.
 

Zerek244

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I don't know why everybody talks about this sort of thing like it's the dev's fault. All those payments are 100 percent voluntary. If, after two years of nothing, someone still hasn't bothered to click "unsubscribe", that's entirely on them.

I know right, BlueCats merge was supposed to be done 3 and a half years ago. PenguinFuhrer is confused with the one "OH GOD THE SUBSCRIBERS ARE LEAVING" update he did a few years ago.


Still, there are some retards still paying BlueCat. That truly is on them. How fucking stupid can you be?

Edit: 4->3 misclick corrected.
 

Wlms

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I don't know why everybody talks about this sort of thing like it's the dev's fault. All those payments are 100 percent voluntary. If, after two years of nothing, someone still hasn't bothered to click "unsubscribe", that's entirely on them.
Well, sort of isn't, but also sort of is....

A dev wanting to be 100% fair with the people backing them, in case they know they won't be able to work and update their project for a long or indefinite period of time, could suspend the payment until the time they're able to hop back on the project.
Quick and easy enough to do, and some people I do support have in fact done it, because they have some kind of morals, you know.

But well, you can also just "forget" about this possibility and, well, you get money every month so that's nice, right?

So I my view the fault goes both ways : the supporters who forget about their subscription or are willing to burn money for nothing, and the devs/creator that "forget" to put payements on hold while they're away from their project.
 

PenguinFuhrer

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I don't know why everybody talks about this sort of thing like it's the dev's fault. All those payments are 100 percent voluntary. If, after two years of nothing, someone still hasn't bothered to click "unsubscribe", that's entirely on them.
I know right, BlueCats merge was supposed to be done 3 and a half years ago. PenguinFuhrer is confused with the one "OH GOD THE SUBSCRIBERS ARE LEAVING" update he did a few years ago.


Still, there are some retards still paying BlueCat. That truly is on them. How fucking stupid can you be?

Edit: 4->3 misclick corrected.
Has it been that long already? Damn. I just used the last "update" as reference to the time.

Either way, it is also "the dev's fault". Sure, it's the subs that are idiots in the first place, but an honest dev would either pause payments or shut it all down. Sadly that's not the world we live in though.

There are some exceptions of course, like Killer7 who has paused payments multiple times despite the shit they have gone through
 

dorleans

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Well, sort of isn't, but also sort of is....

A dev wanting to be 100% fair with the people backing them, in case they know they won't be able to work and update their project for a long or indefinite period of time, could suspend the payment until the time they're able to hop back on the project.
Quick and easy enough to do, and some people I do support have in fact done it, because they have some kind of morals, you know.

But well, you can also just "forget" about this possibility and, well, you get money every month so that's nice, right?

So I my view the fault goes both ways : the supporters who forget about their subscription or are willing to burn money for nothing, and the devs/creator that "forget" to put payements on hold while they're away from their project.
I think tech jargon terminology these sites use confuses the issue. Take "backer" - it's a word otherwise used exclusively to refer to an early investor in a new commercial enterprise. There's a whole slew of implied obligations and rights that simply don't exist in this context.

What you're really doing is tossing money into a busker's hat. If they leave the hat behind and you keep putting money in it, that's entirely your affair.
 

sean givens

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May 23, 2018
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to bad the creator isn't logging in and saying what's going on. i enjoyed playing this game and did pay a few times and if he finishes this i will pay again.
 
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gorgetoflinen

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Usually I try to always grab the patches. However, when I first played this I somehow missed the patch for it. The "2 young women who stay in my house" was a little odd, but I quickly got over it and saw them as people looking for a safe home to rent near school.

It wasn't until many hours later I had the re-realization that they were actually the daughters in the patched version. Not going to lie, I felt a little dumb about that. But the fact that the story seemed to hold up without it I think is a pretty big plus.

I really liked this one and I do hope the dev does get around to finishing it.
 

Pornfather 3000

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I read a book once. I mean how hard can it be to write a f'n book? It's just some paper (or a computer) and the ability to punch buttons on a keyboard or use a pencil. Any trained monkey can do it.

Does make you wonder why we all aren't successful novelist doesn't it?

Anyway. I really like this game. Hope Dev is okay and can pick it back up.
 
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