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cavaemon

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May 29, 2018
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ppl who ask " when will..." bleh I cant no... just wait like everyone else and read their main page in the description. or play dark souls I don't know lol me im playing whatever that gets the hours to minutes.
 
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Squark ⚧❤️

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Jun 16, 2017
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what if he never gets in the mood for a particular character then?
There are so many characters that have been neglected because of those damn polls. Eventually, every character will be updated. I don't think we have to worry about that too much. ICSTOR will work on whomever he feels like now, and that's the way it should be.
 

Aldnoah Zero

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Apr 29, 2018
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what if he never gets in the mood for a particular character then?
Probably that was the mistake from the beginning ..(too much mood for a particular character)
Certainly the game would have advanced and other characters would have entered the scene (like the neighbor and the classmates).
Maybe even the game would be in the final stages now, the amount of requests and donations involved ended up in this ..
Dev did not have a chance, previous work shows that he does not like games that are too time-consuming (prefers short games, rests a while and does the second chapter) ..
Worst of all is how this has been affecting moods and spread to other games ..
 

lo0u

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Jun 26, 2018
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An update will be in 3-4 months. 1-2 month break, then 2 months (give or take a week or two) for the completion of the update if he goes at his ~16% progress or so a month he was doing before the break. So, its gonna be a one hot summer when Caroline arrives :love: .
I haven't been following the thread for quite some time. But, is it going to another update for Caroline?
 

Vordertur

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Probably that was the mistake from the beginning ..(too much mood for a particular character)
Certainly the game would have advanced and other characters would have entered the scene (like the neighbor and the classmates).
Maybe even the game would be in the final stages now, the amount of requests and donations involved ended up in this ..
Dev did not have a chance, previous work shows that he does not like games that are too time-consuming (prefers short games, rests a while and does the second chapter) ..
Worst of all is how this has been affecting moods and spread to other games ..
That's part of the problem of this kind of "off the cuff" style of development. Who knows whether or not the cast was originally meant to be this large? Or if it was, maybe a lot of these side characters that got popular weren't intended to be introduced so soon into things.

Now the thing is, I get it: I know how tempting it is to just sort of sit down and do stuff. Start writing, start creating, whatever. And if that means a whole bunch of new characters get generated, or the plot goes off in a direction you didn't expect, well, you just deal with it. But it also leaves you really vulnerable to writing yourself into a corner. Or, in cases like this, dumping a cast that's far too large to manage into your lap and leaving you unable to develop them all properly.

As much as I've never liked the idea of having an "outline" of major plot events from the get-go, there's good reason for people to do that. It keeps you from overextending yourself. At the very least, keeping a "series bible" so you know what major story events are going to happen, roughly where they're going to happen and who's going to be involved, so you know what characters to introduce, when they need to be active in the narrative and all that... well... yeah, keeps you from ending up with a kludgy mess like this.

But again, all that involves a lot more thinking ahead than was probably involved here. And it's just not in keeping with everyone's M.O., either.
 

jamdan

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Sep 28, 2018
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The 3 main girls are Caroline, Linda and Sara. He should focus on those 3, the other characters are all side-girls. Now, obviously the side-girls will get their own content and need it but they aren't as important as the trio IMO.

The best way to update is probably to do a little of everything, maybe 1 scene with each main girl and something with a side girl. Would make good progress, probably won't get burned out and everyone gets a little something.
 

Demonius

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Oct 28, 2018
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That's weird, since we already had an update for Caroline, even though it was pretty bad. I was hoping to see more of Sarah. It's been so long since her last upate.
thats because people kept voting for Caroline in the polls, but i believe ICSTOR has said that hes not gonna be doing any more polls and hes just gonna work on the characters he feels liek working on and this next update
 

Storm4n

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I just can't fucking understand why people keep supporting these devs, they take huge benefits and keep milking the cow and of course now that's a 5 month holiday...

This fucker has 5300 patrons, being $1 the lowest bid which almost nobody pledges and $10 to $15 the most common except for a few guys dropping $50 or more this guys could be potentially making easily $15k-$25k a MONTH.

Even if Patreon took HALF that's plenty to fucking organize yourself, invest in new hardware, invest in hiring help in order to finish these games... I still can't fucking wrap my mind around the idea of people not demanding their money back from these "devs" after hiatus like these.

EDIT:
Just to clarify if I can I always support the games I like/liked, I supported games like Strive for power, Dreaming of Dana and so on... what I refuse to do is be someone that pays $15 each month for a year, I always try and be fair, I considered these games to be priced at maybe $50 so once I reach that quota I take the payment out. There's no reason for me to keep paying $15 each month for 2 years to a total of $360 for a 6 hour game or a short adventure one. That's preposterous... this whole "keep paying for life til I feel like finishing the game" model is just so damn wrong.
 
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