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dirtythiccboi

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My $5 contribution every thirty days isn't a large enough sum to make me feel milked. It's like buying a lottery ticket. I'm just throwing it out there hoping that it's the month I hit the jackpot. ;)
That's the type of mindset people essentially rely on to get rich on patreon. Everyone is thinking in singular terms. Problem is when you have 7,000 people going "oh it's the cost of a cheeseburger every month" all that adds up to essentially making the dev a millionaire. Guaranteeing slower updates/milking/etc. Individually supporters don't see it as a problem.
 

boxedjack

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Well he did see it for a while but he said in his post that he got so tired of all the negative comments that he doesn't bother reading any anymore and I don't blame him for that. All the work he puts into a free game and all he gets is a constant stream of bitching and moaning. I'd shut that out too.
The game isn't free though. He is not a generous samaritan blessing poor wankers with his creation. Working on the game is his full time job. He set the dates that he missed. The improvements he has yet to deliver on (faster updates, fully animated scenes) were layed out by himself.

I don't mind anyone supporting him but I also recognize that the reason the stream of bitching and moaning has become constant is because it is warranted.
 

Oriandu

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Sep 1, 2017
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Yeah people who aren't writers tend to... vastly overestimate just how much 5k/10k/50k words is.
As someone who is a writer, you're full of shit. The bible has roughly 800,000 words in it. You expect us to believe that a porn game has 8% of the content of the bible in it just for three characters? I'm sorry, but no. Most people have written essays, short stories and so on in their lives. We all have a general grasp on word count thanks to a crazy little thing called school. He's inflating the numbers and hoping no one will notice, and if he's not then he's wasting time puffing up the game with meaningless dialogue. It's a story about a family with women who all inexplicably want to fuck their extremely generic white guy son/brother. It would take a hell of a stretch for those figures to be accurate and not a massive waste of time.
 

trock230

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Oct 9, 2017
19
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This is just my opinion but I'm sure more than half the people complaining on here about the release haven't invested any money into this game. I get being let down by the creator taking so long with the release of the newest update (and constant delays) but ffs. I'd rather get a polished update than a buggy ass update (i.e. The Tyrant's recent updates). Dont get me wrong i hate having to wait for these games but I'd rather have no issues while playing it rather than the game suddenly crashing on me in the middle of a good part.
 

Zetta Man

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Guys I’m from the future, the update will drop on October 9 and all will be forgiven after y’all fap to glorious Caroline scenes. Also while I’m talking about the future let me tell you what happens next year: Trump re-elected, Iran War and small cryptocurrency are the way to gain some fast cash, bye and see ya in 2033.
 

Bill_Buttlicker

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Jul 13, 2018
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The game isn't free though. He is not a generous samaritan blessing poor wankers with his creation. Working on the game is his full time job. He set the dates that he missed. The improvements he has yet to deliver on (faster updates, fully animated scenes) were layed out by himself.

I don't mind anyone supporting him but I also recognize that the reason the stream of bitching and moaning has become constant is because it is warranted.

If you're getting the game here it's free.
 

RainbowRising

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Feb 11, 2019
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Guys I’m from the future, the update will drop on October 9 and all will be forgiven after y’all fap to glorious Caroline scenes. Also while I’m talking about the future let me tell you what happens next year: Trump re-elected, Iran War and small cryptocurrency are the way to gain some fast cash, bye and see ya in 2033.
October 9 is too early lol
 
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Hones

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If you're getting the game here it's free.
And?
Whether the game is free here doesn't mean anything, ICSTOR doesn't release the game for free you have to be a $10 patron to get the game unless you pirate it. boxedjack was replying to a comment where mt2007 said ICSTOR works hard to release a free game which is why boxedjack said the game isn't free.
mt2007 said:
All the work he puts into a free game and all he gets is a constant stream of bitching and moaning
boxedjack said:
The game isn't free though...
 

SubtleHustle

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May 11, 2017
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Was supposed to be in august, NOPE, then september, Big NOPE, now 10th October, lets see what other "obstacles" comes for the november delay. Seriously, when are his patrons gonna fucking open their eyes? Do they have a fetish for being milked or what? XD

Fetish... Kind of like how the e-thots on twitch refer to their supporters as "pay-pigs." Or Fin-Subs. :unsure:
 

Bill_Buttlicker

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Jul 13, 2018
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And?
Whether the game is free here doesn't mean anything, ICSTOR doesn't release the game for free you have to be a $10 patron to get the game unless you pirate it. boxedjack was replying to a comment where mt2007 said ICSTOR works hard to release a free game which is why boxedjack said the game isn't free.
Uh yeah....it was my comment as I'm mt2007 :rolleyes: And what I said was true. The people on this site who play the game are getting it for free. So I fail to see what all the complaining is about.
 
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Hones

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Uh yeah....it was my comment as I'm mt2007 :rolleyes: And what I said was true. The people on this site who play the game are getting it for free. So I fail to see what all the complaining is about.
hehe so you are I didn't even see you username ugh I really should get some sleep.
It's really simple people are frustrated by the delay so they complain, I don't see why the shouldn't.
This is a thread for people to discuss milfy city if people want to vent their frustrations about the dev or the delayed update... Why shouldn't they?
 
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RomanHume

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That's the type of mindset people essentially rely on to get rich on patreon. Everyone is thinking in singular terms. Problem is when you have 7,000 people going "oh it's the cost of a cheeseburger every month" all that adds up to essentially making the dev a millionaire. Guaranteeing slower updates/milking/etc. Individually supporters don't see it as a problem.
I think the real problem is having a thousand people getting something for free and blaming patrons and Icstor for them not getting it. People often forget they're entitled to nothing. I can't think of anything that's more draining as a developer than a bunch of people whining at you.

Add to that a large number of people who care way to much about how other people choose to spend their money and you have all the pieces you need for a big fuck-off sandwich.

I think the reason I don't see it as a problem is because I don't care about it as much as others here do. It'll come out when it comes out, if it comes out. Whatever. I have so much other shit to do with my time I don't have to stand here in the terminal waiting for a plane that might not come. But you know what, it's my money, I worked for it, and I'll spend it how ever the hell I want. If I want to wad up $20 bills, wipe my ass and flush them down the toilet, it's my business and no one else's. Cheers mate!

As someone who is a writer, you're full of shit. The bible has roughly 800,000 words in it. You expect us to believe that a porn game has 8% of the content of the bible in it just for three characters? I'm sorry, but no. Most people have written essays, short stories and so on in their lives. We all have a general grasp on word count thanks to a crazy little thing called school. He's inflating the numbers and hoping no one will notice, and if he's not then he's wasting time puffing up the game with meaningless dialogue. It's a story about a family with women who all inexplicably want to fuck their extremely generic white guy son/brother. It would take a hell of a stretch for those figures to be accurate and not a massive waste of time.
I goddamned promise you that if the writers of the bible had access to a word processor and a printer, that fucking book would be a lot goddamned bigger than 800,000 words! If I was hand writing this shit, I have no doubt I'd be cutting corners all over the place. As it is, I can type out a shit ton of content in a short period of time.

If you're a writer who can't produce 5k words in a day, then you seriously need to spend some time developing your trade craft. Cause when you have a story in your head ready to go, a strong grasp of language, and can type like a mother fucker, 60k ain't shit.

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Exactly right. Bet anything that guy has never been to college before. Probably just a flunk out who sits at home writing "novels" that will never be published and believes it is some holy grail. I'm not trying to take away from writing, as I think it probably requires some effort, but no where near what everyone blows it up to. I wouldn't pay a writer as much as I'd pay a coder which is infinitely more difficult. Those who believe writing is so difficult clearly is either just horrible at writing and has no creativity at all, which seems to be like 95% of the community... or has impaired English.
While I generally agree, I put writing and coding on the same level. Excellent coding requires a knack for efficiency and simplicity. Good writing requires an active imagination and a command of language that doesn't make you sound retarded.

But I agree, it's not as hard as everyone makes it out to be and when you can type fast, and have your plot and plan ready to go, everything falls onto the page fast and before you know it, you've laid down a lot of text in an afternoon.
 
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fried

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As someone who is a writer, you're full of shit. The bible has roughly 800,000 words in it. You expect us to believe that a porn game has 8% of the content of the bible in it just for three characters? I'm sorry, but no. Most people have written essays, short stories and so on in their lives. We all have a general grasp on word count thanks to a crazy little thing called school. He's inflating the numbers and hoping no one will notice, and if he's not then he's wasting time puffing up the game with meaningless dialogue. It's a story about a family with women who all inexplicably want to fuck their extremely generic white guy son/brother. It would take a hell of a stretch for those figures to be accurate and not a massive waste of time.
I wrote an obituary earlier this week in a half-bio/half-story style, took me less than an hour. It was 915 words and I've received rather positive feedback since (fortunately).

Over the course of a couple nights where I had some free time 2-3 months back, I wrote a potential game outline in a variation of standard play format and it came to almost 6K words. This thing will grow greatly when I get full dialogue and scene cues/details in there.

ICSTOR's writer has been engaged for more than a few hours on this installment.

Although you can claim bs on something which you haven't even seen, I can also find it reasonable to accept what has been offered: IMHO, ICSTOR gains nothing from lying at this time. It's mostly the pirates and bystanders complaining, anyway - his patron Discord channel is rather serene.
 
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blahmeister

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I think the real problem is having a thousand people getting something for free and blaming patrons and Icstor for them getting it. People often forget they're entitled to nothing. I can't think of anything that's more draining as a developer than a bunch of people whining at you.

Add to that a large number of people who care way to much about how other people choose to spend their money and you have all the pieces you need for a big fuck-off sandwich.

I think the reason I don't see it as a problem is because I don't care about it as much as others here do. It'll come out when it comes out, if it comes out. Whatever. I have so much other shit to do with my time I don't have to stand here in the terminal waiting for a plane that might not come. But you know what, it's my money, I worked for it, and I'll spend it how ever the hell I want. If I want to wad up $20 bills, wipe my ass and flush them down the toilet, it's my business and no one else's. Cheers mate!
I've tried saying the same thing ... just get a bunch of facepalms without any actual rebuttal to what I've said. 100+ pages of people jerking each other off with dev hate for something they get for free is just sad.
 
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