Ren'Py Completed Milfy City [v1.0e] [ICSTOR]

[RomanHume]

I've tried saying the same thing ... just get a bunch of facepalms without any actual rebuttal to what I've said. 100+ pages of people jerking each other off with dev hate for something they get for free is just sad.

To be fair, I typed it knowing I'm not going to change any minds. The lines are clearly drawn and no one is going to budge. Just felt like clearly marking my own position in the debate.

Either way, I'll keep throwing Icstor money. Maybe I'll get an update, maybe I won't. At the end of the day, I don't miss that cash, and I have plenty of other things that keep me occupied. My days don't revolve around Milfy City or any other game (except my own, but that's a different obligation and a project of passion).

Besides, why spin circles in the mud over Milfy City when you have an entire website full of other games to try! I have no doubt in the pages and pages of F95Zone's threads there is another gem waiting to be discovered.

And when/if the Milfy City update does come, I'll be sitting happy with a steak, cigar, and fresh bottle of scotch ready to salivate at whatever debauchery is coming my way. Salute mate!

 

[RomanHume]

Hmmm... do I go with the "you all keep saying writing is easy, wish you'd all applied when I was hiring writers at my workplace, woulda made the search a whole lot simpler" sarcastic response or instead the "as a professional writer myself, I look forward to having so many talented writers join the profession and show us how easy it really is" approach?

If you're serious, shoot me some deets in dm. I'd love to hear what this job is you speak of.

Is there a Linda in your office? Though, if there is a Bob, I must decline any offers of employment.

 

[terroralpha]

I've tried saying the same thing ... just get a bunch of facepalms without any actual rebuttal to what I've said. 100+ pages of people jerking each other off with dev hate for something they get for free is just sad.

i was his patreon supporter for over a year, until i stopped last spring. a lot of people here still are. i'm currently supporting 7 devs who actually deliver. i can complain all i want. don't project on to other people just because you're a freeloader

 

[JaredRayne]

All I Give a shit about is the Celia Content, Blackmailing her into doing Lewd stuff is a Turn on for me, the rest doesn't do it for me. I know that the content may be small but I dont care as long as I get it i'm gonna whine on this thread if I have to.

 

[kisasasa]

rip 0.7 & 0.8

 

[blahmeister]

i was his patreon supporter for over a year, until i stopped last spring. a lot of people here still are. i'm currently supporting 7 devs who actually deliver. i can complain all i want. don't project on to other people just because you're a freeloader

Great, you cancelled your sub! You did the only thing that matters.

Do you think complaining here is going to make him release 0.6 any faster? Do you think complaining here is going to stop the other 7k+ subs to his Patreon? Do you just complain to get thumbs up from other people complaining?

What do you hope to accomplish by complaining in this thread? What's the goal?

 

[Vordertur]

Do you think complaining here is going to stop the other 7k+ subs to his Patreon?

Isn't that the point of any communication? To impart information and therefore to sway other people's opinions?

Granted, given that most people don't base their decisions on logic or reason but instead go with whatever instinct tells them to do (and note, this is not an insult - people need to be trained to reflect on their decisions and to critically examine information imparted to them. They don't do it by default,) that's difficult.

But again, to answer your question, yes.

A well-reasoned argument that is presented properly should theoretically be able to convince someone else. Assuming, as always, one can get past that baseline stubbornness that makes people instinctively resist anything that doesn't come from inside their own head.

I won't deny there are people who whine for the sake of whining. Just like there are people who zealously defend a position they know is untenable simply because they detest the idea of being seen as weak if they change their mind. I find both extremes distasteful. I would hope most people do.

 

[chimichangajones]

October 9 is too early lol

Unlike that other guy, I’m actually from the future. Here’s what really happens:

- Congress decides to settle the Trump impeachment thing with a high stakes pie eating contest involving all members of both houses, but it degenerates into a massive barf-o-rama when AOC pre-game chugs a bottle of castor oil to get back at Nancy Pelosi.

- Vladimir Putin promotes a bunch of white supremacists into his government and decides to save western civilization by nuking Germany and Western Europe. Trump nukes large portions of Africa and South America in an attempt to get revenge on the white supremacists.

- Despite dangerous levels of vomit and nuclear holocausts, ICSTOR manages to release a Milfy City Halloween special with approximately six minutes of playtime. The October release is, naturally, delayed for this.

- The release is rescheduled for late November, but is postponed to release a Thanksgiving mini-game involving Bob, the gremlin, and a turkey baster.

- Trump, acting on advice from his son Barron, tweets angrily at ICSTOR and, in a phone call with Italy’s new PM Salvini, threatens to put tariffs on Italian exports unless his government investigates the recurring delays in the Milfy City release. Democratic primary candidates respond heatedly, with Warren commenting “Me pay heapum big wampum in Patreon subscription”, Sanders screaming about “fatcats smoking cigars while young twin sisters struggle” as he flails his arms, and Biden making excited groping motions with his hands whenever Sara is mentioned.

- ICSTOR promises a December release as global media begins a concerted campaign against “incestcels” and their online campaign of misogyny and racist terrorism.

- After a series of mass shootings during the holiday season, before which the perpetrators posted anti-ICSTOR manifestos on the online hive of villainy and terrorism known as F95, Patreon pulls the plug on all erotic games, including Milfy City, just days before ICSTOR’s scheduled release. ICSTOR is extradited from Italy and forced to testify in front of a Congressional hearing, while the evil website F95 is seized and shutdown by the Department of Justice and the FBI conducts raids on its most prominent posters.

- Merry Christmas. See you in 2020!

 

[Winterfire]

Both fake, any true time traveller would know that Milfy City 0.6 is released on 3rd October 2019.

 

[sorajan]

This for Dev. I know nobody like to get force but i think everybody waiting for every update because i think this game is very amazing. And now i will encourage you to make good new update for us. I will support.

 

[blahmeister]

Isn't that the point of any communication? To impart information and therefore to sway other people's opinions?

Granted, given that most people don't base their decisions on logic or reason but instead go with whatever instinct tells them to do (and note, this is not an insult - people need to be trained to reflect on their decisions and to critically examine information imparted to them. They don't do it by default,) that's difficult.

But again, to answer your question, yes.

A well-reasoned argument that is presented properly should theoretically be able to convince someone else. Assuming, as always, one can get past that baseline stubbornness that makes people instinctively resist anything that doesn't come from inside their own head.

I won't deny there are people who whine for the sake of whining. Just like there are people who zealously defend a position they know is untenable simply because they detest the idea of being seen as weak if they change their mind. I find both extremes distasteful. I would hope most people do.

I have seen very little well reasoned arguments, but I agree with your point - the only issue is that a large portion of his subscribers probably don't frequent this site, so the messages here aren't being heard anyways.

There are other people in this thread, who are subbed to ICSTOR, have already said they don't care about their monthly contributions and there are others who have cancelled their subs because they don't agree with what he's doing. I'm pretty sure people have already made up their minds at this point on whether they're going to support him or not .. the rest is just noise. If they haven't made up their minds, there's 1400 pages to read and make a choice - I don't think anything else can be said that hasn't already.

 

[DatBoit]

What I don't understand is how the fuck ISCTOR could say "I hope to be able to release the game in August", when he can't even do it in September. That is the worst fucking estimation I've ever seen. It should have been abundantly clear that there was no chance of that ever happening. Of course, people are going to get upset by those shitty attempts at making a deadline.

But then he still proceeds by going around and playing the victim; "Oh, look at poor me, receiving negative comments", when he has no one else to blame but himself and his lazy development team. It's extremely obvious that if you set certain deadlines you aim for, people are going to expect you to hit them, or at least just miss by a small margin. ICSTOR, though, misses by one and a half months. Naturally, people are going to call you out on in, when you give no fucking hint whatsoever at why it has happened.

And then you see a bunch of people defending him, or rather; excusing him, because of the update size or "quality before quantity". Well, here's the fucking thing; you don't manage deadlines by cutting quality, rather by managing scope. He could have said "Fuck the neighbour content, I'll chuck it in the next update, which of course will take longer, but at least my paying patrons will have something to entertain themselves with until then". But no, instead he keeps putting himself in an awful position to succeed, and then has the audactiy to complain about perfectly reasonable criticisms of how he has handled this.

I will NEVER be a patron of ICSTOR again. This has been so unprofessional of him, and I find it extremely provoking that he shows no sign of empathy for the people that have supported him month after month, just looking for a simple explanation for what's going on. That's my opinion anyways. Don't @ me.

 

[SubtleHustle]

Unlike that other guy, I’m actually from the future. Here’s what really happens:

- Congress decides to settle the Trump impeachment thing with a high stakes pie eating contest involving all members of both houses, but it degenerates into a massive barf-o-rama when AOC pre-game chugs a bottle of castor oil to get back at Nancy Pelosi.

- Vladimir Putin promotes a bunch of white supremacists into his government and decides to save western civilization by nuking Germany and Western Europe. Trump nukes large portions of Africa and South America in an attempt to get revenge on the white supremacists.

- Despite dangerous levels of vomit and nuclear holocausts, ICSTOR manages to release a Milfy City Halloween special with approximately six minutes of playtime. The October release is, naturally, delayed for this.

- The release is rescheduled for late November, but is postponed to release a Thanksgiving mini-game involving Bob, the gremlin, and a turkey baster.

- Trump, acting on advice from his son Barron, tweets angrily at ICSTOR and, in a phone call with Italy’s new PM Salvini, threatens to put tariffs on Italian exports unless his government investigates the recurring delays in the Milfy City release. Democratic primary candidates respond heatedly, with Warren commenting “Me pay heapum big wampum in Patreon subscription”, Sanders screaming about “fatcats smoking cigars while young twin sisters struggle” as he flails his arms, and Biden making excited groping motions with his hands whenever Sara is mentioned.

- ICSTOR promises a December release as global media begins a concerted campaign against “incestcels” and their online campaign of misogyny and racist terrorism.

- After a series of mass shootings during the holiday season, before which the perpetrators posted anti-ICSTOR manifestos on the online hive of villainy and terrorism known as F95, Patreon pulls the plug on all erotic games, including Milfy City, just days before ICSTOR’s scheduled release. ICSTOR is extradited from Italy and forced to testify in front of a Congressional hearing, while the evil website F95 is seized and shutdown by the Department of Justice and the FBI conducts raids on its most prominent posters.

- Merry Christmas. See you in 2020!

I love it!

You really had me at “Me pay heapum big wampum in Patreon subscription”

 

[trynd]

Hmmm... do I go with the "you all keep saying writing is easy, wish you'd all applied when I was hiring writers at my workplace, woulda made the search a whole lot simpler" sarcastic response or instead the "as a professional writer myself, I look forward to having so many talented writers join the profession and show us how easy it really is" approach?

writing is easy, its just a shit profession and you need pretty good luck to make it big writing. why be a writer when you can work in law medicine or economics? more people write as a hobby than a job.

 

[fffffffffffk]

As someone who is a writer, you're full of shit. The bible has roughly 800,000 words in it. You expect us to believe that a porn game has 8% of the content of the bible in it just for three characters? I'm sorry, but no. Most people have written essays, short stories and so on in their lives. We all have a general grasp on word count thanks to a crazy little thing called school. He's inflating the numbers and hoping no one will notice, and if he's not then he's wasting time puffing up the game with meaningless dialogue. It's a story about a family with women who all inexplicably want to fuck their extremely generic white guy son/brother. It would take a hell of a stretch for those figures to be accurate and not a massive waste of time.

60K words for 2K renders means 30 words for every render. I hate to break it to you, but that's not even a full ren'py textbox. He's writing a porn game about a tenant fucking his landlady and roommates, not a scientific tractate.

 

[Dooble]

I don't think anyone cares for neighbor content. It you did care at some point you probably don't now. At least you could have added some bonus scenes with a main girl, there's probably some teases but you could straight up replace the neighbors crap with development of other characters. Bite my tounge if there is, but just take out that cliche neighbor crap. The neighbors are gonna end up being some weird pervy family (not unlike the MC) and the MC is gonna catch em doing weird crap and join them or some crap...over done plot line....unless I'm wrong then correct me so.

 

[Evangelion-01]

60K words for 2K renders means 30 words for every render. I hate to break it to you, but that's not even a full ren'py textbox. He's writing a porn game about a tenant fucking his landlady and roommates, not a scientific tractate.

Gotta admit I am not happy about the next announcement of delay and even less for this excuse which includes a shorting of content...
But let's wait for destroying how little to nothing there actually is about these scenes.
I suspect that some or more renders are actually planned for 2-3 pic animation, which means no text for several renders.
I doubt we'll get a whole novel with the Update, but we'll see how little it is WHEN it arrives (sadly I am not to confident it actually happens in duo time)

I don't think anyone cares for neighbor content. It you did care at some point you probably don't now. At least you could have added some bonus scenes with a main girl, there's probably some teases but you could straight up replace the neighbors crap with development of other characters. Bite my tounge if there is, but just take out that cliche neighbor crap. The neighbors are gonna end up being some weird pervy family (not unlike the MC) and the MC is gonna catch em doing weird crap and join them or some crap...over done plot line....unless I'm wrong then correct me so.

The neighbors mom already proofed she is into spanking and make her daughter eat her out later... so yeah rather kinky that one.
Also he probably only announced the neighbor content to justify his previous delay report

 

[Ventry]

Boy, if I have a coin for every complain I read in this TOPIC...

 

[Evangelion-01]

Boy, if I have a coin for every complain I read in this TOPIC... View attachment 412484

And here I thought you'd claim something like "I'd be the highest tier Supporter of ICStor"
But a BJ is always better... so who cares

 

[Agent York Morgan]

My $5 contribution every thirty days isn't a large enough sum to make me feel milked. It's like buying a lottery ticket. I'm just throwing it out there hoping that it's the month I hit the jackpot.

I really don't think that people are mad because of the money.

It doesn't matter if it's $5 or $50 a month, a cheeseburger or a lottery ticket.

It's a matter of principle.

People appreciate honesty and transparency. That goes a long way. Had he been more open, there would be less backlash.
But he doesn't like to communicate much, that's fine. He should be able to deal with the negative comments then, or at least understand them.