PinkGoddess

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cancelled my patreon after giving $30, some people may have it worse, but i think i could've spend that money for another creator with completed game instead.

learned my lesson.
If u have my honest opinion, there are a ton of great devs here, as Kthulian (Ataegina) or Belle (Long live the princess) and I think these devs are sooooo underrated for the quality and constant of their work. I put only a pair of examples, but there are too much srsly, only u need watch the forum and see the signatures from others users, u can discover a great diamonds here :D
 

Ennoch

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I just find it funny how he repeates exactly what he did with Incest Story. Not just closely, not more or less.. but exactly. Its very interesting. He fell apart exactly at the 5th update. Just like here. Exactly after 1.5 half years. He struggled some but then it was done. Here, the fifth update was the crucial one as well. He started to struggle greatly with that. Since then its just a struggle. The only reason why he added a 6th update, and now tries another, is that he now earn huge wads of cash while he didn't back then. It basically forces him to try and continue but its plain to see he is raping himself now with the game and i'm certain, without a shadow of a doubt, that he would have quit after 0.5 otherwise. If not for the money.

Its like i'm seeing the Incest Story: Revamp (Same Results Edition)
 

Dave98424

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We don't know anything about his situation, except that he obviously doesn't feel well. He might have a family that rely on his income or whatever. That doesn't make it right, but it might be a good enough reason for him to care less about patrons who apparently are happy enough to keep paying.

No matter how you look at it, paying is voluntary. People spend their money on all kinds of pointless shit, and getting upset about it won't help.

Why do so many people on here assume that when Icstor said he is not feeling well or is burned out that he is telling the truth. This may come as a surprise to some of you but people can lie and scammers often lie allot.
 

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Sorry Midnight Paradise's mom signature totally stopped me from reading your post Hahaha...

I just find it funny how he repeates exactly what he did with Incest Story. Not just closely, not more or less.. but exactly. Its very interesting. He fell apart exactly at the 5th update. Just like here. Exactly after 1.5 half years. He struggled some but then it was done. Here, the fifth update was the crucial one as well. He started to struggle greatly with that. Since then its just a struggle. The only reason why he added a 6th update, and now tries another, is that he now earn huge wads of cash while he didn't back then. It basically forces him to try and continue but its plain to see he is raping himself now with the game and i'm certain, without a shadow of a doubt, that he would have quit after 0.5 otherwise. If not for the money.

Its like i'm seeing the Incest Story: Revamp (Same Results Edition)
 

Johnysilver771

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he is earning more than 20,000$ with so much money he should work even when he is tired or pause the patronage if he cannot work on the game even tho i don't think he is tired he is milking his patrons like a pro scammer imo.
the biggest milking machine from devs is Summertime saga creator . 60k per month . with these resourses he could start second high quality project .
 

Microtom

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the biggest milking machine from devs is Summertime saga creator . 60k per month . with these resourses he could start second high quality project .
No one is milking anyone. The creators don't decide how much money they receive. If they receive a lot, it's simply because the supply for this kind of content is low. It's a good thing, because it's an incentives for developers to increase the supply.
 

Johnysilver771

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No one is milking anyone. The creators don't decide how much money they receive. If they receive a lot, it's simply because the supply for this kind of content is low. It's a good thing, because it's an incentives for developers to increase the supply.
so u dont agree that with 60k per month he could do more than just one update in 3-5 monhts
 
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No one is milking anyone. The creators don't decide how much money they receive. If they receive a lot, it's simply because the supply for this kind of content is low. It's a good thing, because it's an incentives for developers to increase the supply.
In a perfect world, I would agree with you. Unfortunately, the world is full of idiots, and ICSTOR definitely takes advantage of this fact.
 

Microtom

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so u dont agree that with 60k per month he could do more than just one update in 3-5 monhts

The value of something isn't set according to your perception of how much work is required. It's rather set by demand and supply. There's a lot of demand for these porn games but not a lot of quality supply, so these devs reaps all the cash. It's a very good thing, because it's an incentive for other devs to start making quality porn games.
 

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Just as a matter of interest, what makes a game qualify as quality to you?

The value of something isn't set according to your perception of how much work is required. It's rather set by demand and supply. There's a lot of demand for these porn games but not a lot of quality supply, so these devs reaps all the cash. It's a very good thing, because it's an incentive for other devs to start making quality porn games.
 

Johnysilver771

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The value of something isn't set according to your perception of how much work is required. It's rather set by demand and supply. There's a lot of demand for these porn games but not a lot of quality supply, so these devs reaps all the cash. It's a very good thing, because it's an incentive for other devs to start making quality porn games.
i agree, top quality games i can count on one hand . i am following for like 15 projects. Mostly only garbage come out here every day
 

D-Two

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No one is milking anyone. The creators don't decide how much money they receive. If they receive a lot, it's simply because the supply for this kind of content is low. It's a good thing, because it's an incentives for developers to increase the supply.
The only problem I see with ICStor and phenomena like these is that a lot of that money could have been put to better use with other developers who deliver better quality. Two years ago this game was top notch for the genre, today it's a bit above average, but nowhere near the top. The last release was actually mediocre to say the least.

As it is now, many creators struggle while consistenly pushing out better things, but they don't get the backing that would mean they could improve even more.
 

Elinan

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he is earning more than 20,000$ with so much money he should work even when he is tired or pause the patronage if he cannot work on the game even tho i don't think he is tired he is milking his patrons like a pro scammer imo.
Yeah, or he could even hire some people working for him and didnt have to do shit and still do good.
 
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Ginger6409

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the biggest milking machine from devs is Summertime saga creator . 60k per month . with these resourses he could start second high quality project .
People support DC because he does the opposite of what ICSTOR does. DC regularly updates his patrons and discord with progress on the project with streams and a legitimate progress bar (Art, Posing, Writing, Coding, and Bugs). Plus, hand-drawn takes much more time to make than 3D animation, and yet the updates are consistently good with metric buttloads of content. Also, it took nearly a year for ICSTOR to release one lackluster update, but DC managed to chug out several in the same amount of time.
 
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