People think it'll be punitive somehow, as though tagging the game as "abandoned" will lead to an immediate mass exodus of patrons and money from the dev. This in turn will somehow lead to increased development speed and thus more free faps for them.I fail to understand why so many of you want it so bad that the thread is marked as abandoned. What difference does it make? This is a pirate site and the vast majority are not here to find new devs they'd like to support
Besides, this thread has been negative towards ICSTOR and the game for the whole of 2020, if this makes you interested in supporting ICSTOR then yeahhh ...
short story, this dude been making excuses for the game for 3 years, 1.) health 2.) gf left him after finding out about his porn business 3.) family - - - EVERYONE knows he is full of shit, especially when reason 4) i want to make a new game / / came along - - he only posts on his private discord to his master cucks now, to preserve reputation, i'd assumeDoes anyone know the reason why the dev is not posting anything on patreon since May 23 2020...i seriously hope this game is still going...i love this game
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Does that mean this game is still going or he left it in the middle or as you said again taking a break...? i'll tell you i'm not a patreon to him but i love this game i've been waiting for update or some post if not i'll delete it i've already completed it to the point where this update ends...short story, this dude been making excuses for the game for 3 years, 1.) health 2.) gf left him after finding out about his porn business 3.) family - - - EVERYONE knows he is full of shit, especially when reason 4) i want to make a new game / / came along - - he only posts on his private discord to his master cucks now, to preserve reputation, i'd assume
Not everyone, it seems. 6,737 people (as for now) still didn't get the memo.[...] EVERYONE knows he is full of shit [...]
Still going. Just don't be expectant about the update. Play it then shove it aside for a year or so then enjoy other games.Does that mean this game is still going or he left it in the middle or as you said again taking a break...? i'll tell you i'm not a patreon to him but i love this game i've been waiting for update or some post if not i'll delete it i've already completed it to the point where this update ends...
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You are wrong in your diagnostic though... it's not the first time nor the first project he has done this with... he is just lacking any prefessionalismI believe this phenomenon would be called Dunning–Kruger effect . It's basically a psychological bias where one person can overestimate their talent which lead to an issue where upon gaining experience, the realization of how much there's yet to learn and do dawns on them. So self-perception changes its sign to "minus" and you get bad work practices which lead to inefficient/stressing work and burn outs.
Again he is among the more experienced Devs in the genre, haveing already completed several smaller and equal projects... however in the later times you can only call them "completed" as he set a screen with "the end" while several story arcs remained open or hastily endedIt's very common in lewd games, where most new devs have no experience in game-making which often lead to horribly designed gameplay mechanics, over-ambitious goals, poor writing, lack of general creativity, improper work ethics (People don't know how to properly debug, design their workflow and such, which lead to increase dev times and more development difficulties).
likely because threads with the "abondened" tag tend to be far less frequented... toning down the repeated wining about ICStor's Patreons being to rich and stupid to live a normal day and stuff I supposeI fail to understand why so many of you want it so bad that the thread is marked as abandoned. What difference does it make? This is a pirate site and the vast majority are not here to find new devs they'd like to support
Besides, this thread has been negative towards ICSTOR and the game for the whole of 2020, if this makes you interested in supporting ICSTOR then yeahhh ...
Never. Ure welcome.it's been a year, why aren't you updating this game?
somebody tell me
Again, if the dev drops the game or puts it on indefinite hold, I wouldn't mind helping to pick it up. Now it's out there.It's a sad thing to see that the dev doesn't seem to be on rails anymore. Between very long periods of silence and an obvious lack of work done for a long time despite an arguable success, it's clear to me that the dev isn't capable of handling the game anymore.
I believe this phenomenon would be called Dunning–Kruger effect . It's basically a psychological bias where one person can overestimate their talent which lead to an issue where upon gaining experience, the realization of how much there's yet to learn and do dawns on them. So self-perception changes its sign to "minus" and you get bad work practices which lead to inefficient/stressing work and burn outs.
It's very common in lewd games, where most new devs have no experience in game-making which often lead to horribly designed gameplay mechanics, over-ambitious goals, poor writing, lack of general creativity, improper work ethics (People don't know how to properly debug, design their workflow and such, which lead to increase dev times and more development difficulties).
It's one of the reasons that despite being an actual indie game dev, i choose to not (yet) dedicate time on a new lewd game since i know the implications of game-making (and i'm waiting for my other game to be fulfilled before starting a new one). Something many new naive devs forget and fall into when they see the success of a handful of lewd game.
may as well start. this dev just greenlit this to be abandoned. just look at his track recordA question for anyone able to answer.
If we can get the dev to admit he has halted the game - is anyone here capable of picking it up and finishing it? I don't mind helping with the writing/editing part, seeing as I lack any other experience required.
The game is something of a gem, and as a poster earlier today said it, the dev has probably overestimated himself and is now suffering the stresses of an inefficient workflow. His post says it better and I have to agree, seeing as I've been a writer on games before, I can confirm this happens quite frequently in smaller dev teams.
Again, if the dev drops the game or puts it on indefinite hold, I wouldn't mind helping to pick it up. Now it's out there.
It's not really paradoxical. Ideally, a dev having a large income from patreon should mean that they can devote more time to development and more money to better/faster equipment. That's the gripe people have with ICSTOR. He's making a SHIT TON of money, yet he's obviously doing no work to justify that income. He has no motivation to work, because that massive income flows regardless of what he does. That's why people hope for him to lose patrons, because they (probably rightly) assume that if enough people stop paying him, he'll have an incentive to work to get those patrons back.It's paradoxical, really, because the same crowd will often crow that because a dev gets more money on Patreon then it should also lead to faster development times. Basically there's no monetary situation under which a dev is allowed to work slower![]()
Normally to get abandoned tag it needs to be around 5-6 months here on f95 if i remember well and only gets it if the dev doesnt show any proof of living (lack of communication), its true it shouldnt be getting abandoned tag atleast not yet.Its just funny how people keep saying this should be abandoned.
A title gets the abandoned prefix when the Dev's last post over its respective site, which ofte means patreon, happened more than 3 months ago OR if the Dev made it clear that he or she gave up on the title.
Icstor's last post was made by May 22 and it was definitely NOT about giving up on this title. That was two months ago. The earliest convenience for the staff to actually consider giving it the prefix is still a month away. This isn't some haphazard decision. It has a simple, clear format. Has nothing to do with certain Devs questionable work ethics and/or real or imaginary mental hygiene issues. Some titles don't get it as early as 3 months because nobody alerts the staff by that time. It gets forgotten sooner than that by the community really.
Some other titles are given some leniency out of common sense. But this one is well within the time limit.
You would be very incorrect about your numbers here...The average income he's been making for the last few years is ~$8 per patron. With 6741 patrons, that's $53,928 per month, or $647,136 per year (that he's still earning now). Now take into the account Patreon takes 5% of that, he's left with $614,779. Doing what exactly? ...well....it would seem, not a fu**ing thing (not this year at least). The dude deserves an applause for his scheme. Incredible to scam so many people who continue to support his BS on monthly basis.Jesus Christ $16,000 per month? Okay fuck this asshole and fuck his game. Everybody that's subbed right now drop it. Bleed this asshole dry. There is absolutely no excuse for not having biweekly updates at a minimum when you're making $192,000 per year minimum.