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Imagine where we would be if nobody had ever come up with this now tired comparison.
All I see is "blah blah blah people wasting their money upsets me I should be telling them what to do with their money blah blah blah" whenever that M word is used.

I think we all knew the content polls death knell for this game.
 
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hiongazn

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Seems like he's still developing MC but at a slower pace, and another game from him from what it looks. IDK if that's good or bad, but atleast we can expect something in the coming months
I don't get it. He's more active on his new project than the current one and doesn't even care about the demand and feedback his community/fans have and give.
This is utterly sad. I mean it s great being enthusiastic about beginning with a new project and focusing more on that one . But keeping the folks on hold while the interest on the current project is still there...
It's sad but genius at the same time. He knows that he s able to upset many of us but he still able to earn enough to not care about the loss. Eventually he knows that he will be able to win (back) patreon subscribers anyway. We are kind of in a stimulated situation which I bet he knows.
 

Flicky

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console command isnt working ? even the way that shows it isnt working, the website is down for some reason??? >.>
 

Syr96

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Well, This happens when you pledge too much money, either they become greedy or don't give fk at all. Shame I still want that Sara ending.:FacePalm:
Imagine if he would lose 5000 of his Paetrons. The next update would be there in 1 Month. Its sad that rly good Devs get much less than this greedy boy. At least we still have good Devs with a lot of income like DPC and Philly.
 

spas

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Well, This happens when you pledge too much money, either they become greedy or don't give fk at all. Shame I still want that Sara ending.:FacePalm:
I m 100% with you man the money they get the slower they update the games. I don’t want see someone respond with they’re good dev, if go back you see how much faster they deliver updates with more support become lazy and greedy and yes that’s included become rockstar, Being a dick . City of broken dreams i was with the few people who give money when they started but now i m done / 4 updates a year/ 20 to 30+ k $ a month = 250 k a year damm that not little people work for less in game development
 

PePeTheCoCk

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Does Ic do lobbyism on this plattform or why there is still not abandoned tag (not even onhold) don't get it.
 

Syr96

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I m 100% with you man the money they get the slower they update the games. I don’t want see someone respond with they’re good dev, if go back you see how much faster they deliver updates with more support become lazy and greedy and yes that’s included become rockstar, Being a dick . City of broken dreams i was with the few people who give money when they started but now i m done / 4 updates a year/ 20 to 30+ k $ a month = 250 k a year damm that not little people work for less in game development
DPC isnt working slower. If you watch the quality difference (renders) between DIK and Acting Lessons you can see that he improved it. And DIK is much more difficult if it comes down to coding. You have free roam, minigames, apps on the phone etc. It takes his time. And he is posting an update every week with infos about his work. And on the other hand, i dont want a dev to work 7 days a week with 10 hours or more. Many of them do that at the start, cause they need to create an income. But you cant do that over a long time. "that not little people work for less in game development" thats true but you have to consider, that most ppl are employers. They get less money, but they dont have any risk. And on Paetron it is up to you if you want to support someone.
 

Kinvarus

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There's a difference between being lazy and things taking longer to do as the quality of the game and the animations improves. Games like DIK, Become A Rockstar and Broken Dreamers takes time to deliver that quality. Not every VN can get out an update a month, some like Haley's Story can for the most part, even then the good devs give weekly or monthly updates, letting you know what's going on and keep you informed.

Then there are people like IC who simply get bored with a project, lose interest and then string people along and start other things instead with little updates. Case and point he comes back with a new game, talks all about it and then when it comes to Milfy, the game most people were supporting him for and want and update one, a game which according to him was 80% complete or something 6 months ago not a thing beyond Work will be a lot slower on it, whatever that means.
 
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daloo semoose

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I m 100% with you man the money they get the slower they update the games. I don’t want see someone respond with they’re good dev, if go back you see how much faster they deliver updates with more support become lazy and greedy and yes that’s included become rockstar, Being a dick . City of broken dreams i was with the few people who give money when they started but now i m done / 4 updates a year/ 20 to 30+ k $ a month = 250 k a year damm that not little people work for less in game development
You're obviously getting Philly and DrPink mixed up with Icstor. Philly's patreon is about $13k/month, so about $156k/year, BEFORE fees, tax and costs, which then brings it down closer to $80k - $90k/year. Most people who only have one role (ie: programmer OR animator OR level designer OR writer OR any other singular role) in a game studio make between $70k - $110k/year. Although its not what you'd call a AAA game but considering he's doing everything himself (coding, writing, rendering, animating, scene building, etc), his game updates are huge and high quality, how on earth can this be considered earning too much and him being lazy when there's literally only 1 or 2 other devs making larger updates of this quality? DrPink is maybe one of those devs making more renders.

Of course Icstor is scamming and has lost motivation but to try tar good devs like Philly and DrPink with the same brush is ridiculous. You all want AAA level games but don't want devs to make enough to produce them because of a couple bad eggs, yet you're happy to play Ubisoft's and EA's buggy as fuck games that get even more broken every patch while they make millions off you. Yes, Icstor = bad, but that doesn't mean all other devs automatically = bad.
 
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D-Two

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You all want AAA level games but don't want devs to make enough to produce them because of a couple bad eggs, yet you're happy to play Ubisoft's and EA's buggy as fuck games that get even more broken every patch while they make millions off you. Yes, Icstor = bad, but that doesn't mean all other devs automatically = bad.
Ever considered that one of the main reasons these games have so few bugs is that they're barely games by any definition of the word? Extremely linear visual novels if a better description. As for comparing a couple of hundred static renders and a handful of three second animations using standard Daz3D models with a AAA title, well, let's just say that they play in totally different leagues. Sure, it's impressive what some of these one-man-shows can actually pull off, but these games have more in common with the 8-bit games released in the late 80's than they have with today's big titles.
 

daloo semoose

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Ever considered that one of the main reasons these games have so few bugs is that they're barely games by any definition of the word? Extremely linear visual novels if a better description. As for comparing a couple of hundred static renders and a handful of three second animations using standard Daz3D models with a AAA title, well, let's just say that they play in totally different leagues. Sure, it's impressive what some of these one-man-shows can actually pull off, but these games have more in common with the 8-bit games released in the late 80's than they have with today's big titles.
LOL! You've taken one sentence I've said out of context and twisted it into something its not, trying to put words in my mouth or think I'm talking just about VN's. A couple hundred static renders and handful of 3 second animations in Philly's and DrPink's games? Get of the crack kid, there's thousands in there games and dozens if not hundreds of animations in them too. Read my post again, I even say they're not AAA games. Having said that there are plenty of real 3D open world games in Unity and Unreal where the Dev is doing it all by themselves, once again, I'm not calling them AAA games so don't confuse yourself again.

And you've completely missed the point as to why there aren't any AAA level porn games, there's simply not enough money in the industry for that kind of level of production. Go have a nap and come back when you're awake enough to read ;)
 
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Despite my hatred for the author of the game and his constant mood swings, I give it credit, he makes money on what not everyone thinks of. He was able to promote his game, create the appearance of a quality product that is about to be released. To be honest, the author of the game behaves like a character. Let me remind you that the main character set up his father for the sake of profit. The author substitutes all the wankers and masturbators who save their last money for donations. To sum up, the author is a scoundrel, I will be fucked by horses
 

D-Two

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And you've completely missed the point as to why there aren't any AAA level porn games, there's simply not enough money in the industry for that kind of level of production. Go have a nap and come back when you're awake enough to read ;)
Ah, and here I thought you were serious when you started crying about putting words in your mouth. You almost had me there. :D
 
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Echoesinthedarkness

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lol comparing literally any patreon game to literally any aaa game is ridiculous. these guys gets attention only because big companies dont want to be connected with porn, hence this field is left unexplored. i would like to see how these games (ie patreon numbers) perform in japan for example where there are shitload of studios producing porn games since dawn of time. so yeah pissing yourself over couple of static renders by philly or drpink or literally anyone else is not the smartest thing.
 
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lol comparing literally any patreon game to literally any aaa game is ridiculous. these guys gets attention only because big companies dont want to be connected with porn, hence this field is left unexplored. i would like to see how these games (ie patreon numbers) perform in japan for example where there are shitload of studios producing porn games since dawn of time. so yeah pissing yourself over couple of static renders by philly or drpink or literally anyone else is not the smartest thing.
Meh, censored porn is like non alcoholic beer. And the constant crying of someone who sounds like a ten year old being raped just grates on me.
 
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