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Took them two years tho. lolFinally the tag has been put.....
More like 200 renders every 1.5 years right ?Icstor said he has 8,000 new renders made
if he releases 200 renders every 3 months he will milk money for 10 years in mify city
like icstor was in any rush up to now...Finally the tag has been put.....hopefully the game is completed at some point and without any rush.
true. and bayern munich = betterIf he is telling the truth, he will have a more than 8000 and there will be an update every two weeks until the end of the year, but I can't believe him now, not after all that has happened
This doesn’t belong in to this thread, take it to off-topic thread.apparently calling someone a molester just for being banned After Saying That he didn't know him before Or Why He Was Banned is OK on the Server!!!!NICE |afterwards trying to change the subject to "unicorns and sparkles" View attachment 1291655 View attachment 1291657
Speaking as that specific "other guy," when people have a certain song or album they like they listen to it over and over again, right? Same goes with books or movies, maybe even video games too, right? So why not this? And don't be an ass in this thread, there's enough here as it is.Yep, but what i was talking with the other guy was that doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity, not that he is wrong in any possible way, was more a joke than anything.
I was offensive with you? If i joking about you playing the same content over and over was offensive, i'm sorry. I'm not being an ass, i never talked anything in this pool of shit, the only thing that i have talked was "was abandoned after 1 year and 8 months".Speaking as that specific "other guy," when people have a certain song or album they like they listen to it over and over again, right? Same goes with books or movies, maybe even video games too, right? So why not this? And don't be an ass in this thread, there's enough here as it is.
Yeah, I'm with you. I take mental health very seriously but if he/them wanted the community to take them seriously they would have suspended the payments as I've seen other developers do when they're not working. So the fact that they didn't do so does very little to support their claim of mental health issues. This coupled with all the broken promises and excuses creates a very poor image of the person/group.This is true.... until you factor that he leeched off money knowing that he wasn't doing anything, and that he wouldn't for a long time, and you may say/defend that he still needed money and whatev, he could allow only the minimum pledge, still plenty of money for doing nothing, he could come down clean about doing nothing but he lied, i'm not saying that he wasn't affected by a mental illness, just as you, i have no way to prove/disprove this, but you just can't defend the LYING, he would have way more progress if he done anything at all during this time; Mental illness is a serious and delicate issue, not an excuse to lie, do not mistake your preconceptions with the real (and indisputable) issue here, rookie mistake.
As someone who deals with a very harsh case of bipolar schizoaffective disorder and has survived more than a dozen OD and suicide attempts, I can relate to him if that is case of what's wrong. I don't want to question, since no one questions me, so I give ICSTOR the benefit of the doubt. It might be my only other reason for me to be sticking around this game hoping for a good outcome.Yeah, I'm with you. I take mental health very seriously but if he/them wanted the community to take them seriously they would have suspended the payments as I've seen other developers do when they're not working. So the fact that they didn't do so does very little to support their claim of mental health issues. This coupled with all the broken promises and excuses creates a very poor image of the person/group.
I see. I'm sorry you have to go through that, man. Life's hard for most people but it's the hardest for some of us. I've had my share of mental issues over the years, but nothing as debilitating as this so although I can't relate I like to think I somewhat understand. And I believe that it IS possible that he/them had mental issues. Maybe even serious ones. And maybe, among all those promises were some or all done so with the intention of keeping it.As someone who deals with a very harsh case of bipolar schizoaffective disorder and has survived more than a dozen OD and suicide attempts, I can relate to him if that is case of what's wrong. I don't want to question, since no one questions me, so I give ICSTOR the benefit of the doubt. It might be my only other reason for me to be sticking around this game hoping for a good outcome.
What I deal with is oven debilitating on the worst of days, where my mood is either hostile, manic, or well, sometimes much worse than depression to where sometimes I don't get out of bed for a few days at a time. What I am saying is, I can relate. I've been to psych ward and I've been through hell, but I'm still here. I hope, if he does have something even minutely related to what I have, that he takes care of himself. If the game gets done, great, if not, that's how it'll be.
I agree on not letting people know, and ghosting for however long of a period it was. Make a statement, a single paragraph like you just did, could've possibly saved a lot of headaches for a lot of people, including himself. I get it that devs get burnt out, or have health issues, or other life responsibilities, but this genre of game is unlike anything else, especially on this forum.I see. I'm sorry you have to go through that, man. Life's hard for most people but it's the hardest for some of us. I've had my share of mental issues over the years, but nothing as debilitating as this so although I can't relate I like to think I somewhat understand. And I believe that it IS possible that he/them had mental issues. Maybe even serious ones. And maybe, among all those promises were some or all done so with the intention of keeping it.
BUT what I can't condone is that even taking the possibility of all of that (which would mean that they aren't milking jerks) they just wouldn't be honest about it. I mean, they have/had a large fanbase and it would mean a lot for some of them and in some cases I can even see an increase in patronage with some of the following possible posts:
"Hey guys, I'm sorry for the lack of updates but I had a very serious breakdown and I just had to completely stop working for a while and distance myself from it all. Although I understand that this is disappointing to you all, I'm trying to be as honest as I can here to keep it fair since you guys are all supporting me in one way or another. Unfortunately I depend on the patreon money to keep myself and I'm very much in need of it at the moment for my treatment, so I can't suspend the payments. While I do understand that some of you will stop supporting me, I hope that others can see that this is a very serious issue and I aim to come back as soon as possible. To not leave you guys hanging I'll contract a third party developer to take after a part of my work for a few months while following the outline I left it. This will at least keep the game in development and keep at least a small update per month released."
You see? That wasn't hard. And I can think of at least a dozen more ways of coming clean with the community about his/their condition and not having to suspend the payments (in case they were really needed - bc the more "honest" thing to do would be suspending it).
On another note, while I was writing my patreon speech I just remembered that there was a developer a few years ago that said he would take a break from all of this because he was addicted to porn and so he had to distance himself from development for some time. Wasn't that ICSTOR?
I'm with you there Mark, but don't forget that you could just as easily get a big piece of coal.I feel like I'm a kid again, waiting for Christmas, not knowing if my mother or my grandparents got me the one present I really wanted for that year. This is exactly what it feels like. Yeah I know all about the promises and the missed opportunities and whatnot with this game but that still does not alleviate the anxiety.
I've been a thorough supporter of this game in this thread and even despite my cynicism at times, I haven't given up the sliver of hope I have to see it done.
I know my friend and I am ready for that, but there will still be some disappointment, despite the many months of nothing happening and no real news for most of that time.I'm with you there Mark, but don't forget that you could just as easily get a big piece of coal.