Volgar1991

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I can't discuss any content unfortunately. However, did you ever see the original Caroline storyboard?

ICSTOR and I planned out her character arc and it includes some (very) early renders of Caroline and alternative clothes that we were debating to put on her.

I do have to STRESS that we are still working on content as fast as we can, so please don't give up on our project; I promise we're not gonna let you down.

Nice The video is so fucking aweosome
 
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Ennoch

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It is so weird people expecting a set date while the guy can't even keep up with a fix schedule of releasing a single preview render :sneaky: Icstor is as reliable and trustworthy as your friendly neighborhood burglar.

:unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure:

I mean he will reliably steal stuff from you if you trust him and i guess that makes him more reliable than Icstor so i apologise from all burglars for besmirching their good reputation as dedicated criminals! (y)
 

hotnloaded

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It is so weird people expecting a set date while the guy can't even keep up with a fix schedule of releasing a single preview render :sneaky: Icstor is as reliable and trustworthy as your friendly neighborhood burglar.

:unsure::unsure::unsure::unsure:

I mean he will reliably steal stuff from you if you trust him and i guess that makes him more reliable than Icstor so i apologise from all burglars for besmirching their good reputation as dedicated criminals! (y)
I think he also used one of his writers to do damage control for him. I haven't been so active in this thread but it seemed like there were a lot of "Man, we are making SO much progress" statements that came up in particular for this March "release".
 

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No change from the last update I gave in comment #68,071


Only thing I'm waiting on being sent across to me is the renders for Sara/Lily and Liza/Yazmin.
I wish it took so much time to release the final version
Add the harem/marriage section to the game(for game end)
And the game after the end of the last quest, instead of ending and going to the main menu, with the opening of features and relationships like the open world games, like Grand Theft Auto, and the scenes can be repeated again.
 

Dogorti

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I can't discuss any content unfortunately. However, did you ever see the original Caroline storyboard?

ICSTOR and I planned out her character arc and it includes some (very) early renders of Caroline and alternative clothes that we were debating to put on her.

I do have to STRESS that we are still working on content as fast as we can, so please don't give up on our project; I promise we're not gonna let you down.

as i said before i don't think you're a scammer, but don't you think it's a bit of bad taste to rickroll someone? especially in this context, it makes you look bad imo
 

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I think he also used one of his writers to do damage control for him. I haven't been so active in this thread but it seemed like there were a lot of "Man, we are making SO much progress" statements that came up in particular for this March "release".
And i believe that. I do believe there has been progress. But does that translate into an accurate projection of release date? Not at all. It will come at some point. Soon i'd say.

Icstor follows the exact same pattern of how he is doing these sort of things, i'd say he is running the same circle so if you know this circle you can tell easly where he'll be X time later not because you are a seer but because a circle is a predictable course. You know where people will be eventually when they are taking a jog on it.

Icstor will finalize Milfy City. This means work had to be done and thus work is being done. Once this is finished, there will be some time before Maffia will launch but it will launch. From there, the cycle will repeat itself :) It did 3 times out of 4, 4 out of 5 with Milfy City, before. Why would it be any different with the next.

But finished Milfy City will be and that time is apparently now. That it took several years? That doesn't change anything, only the circle got longer. Still the same circle.

Onyx wouldn't be receiving renders to write for. That is, Icstor wouldn't be working unless he is ready to finish this. There is the possibility that Onyx is making this all up, but again, some of us know better. This isn't Icstor's first time, it is his 5th game and the 4th time he is pulling this exact approach the exact same way with the exact same outcome. It took much longer this time. He earns so much more than before. He could afford to drag it out longer.

Just as a side note. Damage control is always nice and personally i appreciate that it isn't Icstor himself. The guy sucks at PR. I'd much rather chitchat with Onyx. Although he is into tentacles so he has his flaws :LOL:
 

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Icstore reach 90% again in Milky City, so sad that there is so many dumb people that support him
I never really followed the amount of patreon supporters but wasn't he once close to completing the stage for having full animations (no more 1,2 second animation loops) which is currently level 6of7 ? Apparently current patreon numbers make up for only 2% of that goal which means he would need more than 200,000 patreons to fullfill this goal if the paying average of patreon supporters stays the same. This guy is such a joke, really anyone still supporting him must be stupid as f*ck.
 

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And i believe that. I do believe there has been progress. But does that translate into an accurate projection of release date? Not at all. It will come at some point. Soon i'd say.

Icstor follows the exact same pattern of how he is doing these sort of things, i'd say he is running the same circle so if you know this circle you can tell easly where he'll be X time later not because you are a seer but because a circle is a predictable course. You know where people will be eventually when they are taking a jog on it.

Icstor will finalize Milfy City. This means work had to be done and thus work is being done. Once this is finished, there will be some time before Maffia will launch but it will launch. From there, the cycle will repeat itself :) It did 3 times out of 4, 4 out of 5 with Milfy City, before. Why would it be any different with the next.

But finished Milfy City will be and that time is apparently now. That it took several years? That doesn't change anything, only the circle got longer. Still the same circle.

Onyx wouldn't be receiving renders to write for. That is, Icstor wouldn't be working unless he is ready to finish this. There is the possibility that Onyx is making this all up, but again, some of us know better. This isn't Icstor's first time, it is his 5th game and the 4th time he is pulling this exact approach the exact same way with the exact same outcome. It took much longer this time. He earns so much more than before. He could afford to drag it out longer.

Just as a side note. Damage control is always nice and personally i appreciate that it isn't Icstor himself. The guy sucks at PR. I'd much rather chitchat with Onyx. Although he is into tentacles so he has his flaws :LOL:
I agree with most of what you said. It just feels like this is the first time where I see his writer so active on his thread, highlighting all these positives about the "upcoming" update. It just comes across like he IS doing PR for ICSTOR and seems disingenuous.
But I wouldn't put the majority of the blame on him, it's ICSTOR who is at fault.
 
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Onyxdime

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All we have for Onxydime is speculation on whether he is in on the scam or not. I won't label him as such because he could be an unknowing participant. Maybe he is truly trying to right the ship, who knows.

It is no secret that Icstor's numbers were on a steady decline, then Onyxdime comes here talking about work being done and the numbers immediately climbing back up. Others have posted it before but I'll do so again.

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Notice that it hit the lowpoint at the beginning of October 2022, then we have Onyxdime's first post in the thread since August of 2021 talking about work being done and then we see an uptick higher than the previous 2 months.
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Like I said, Onyxdime could be on the up on the up so I won't say one way or the other, but fools and their money are easily parted with these patreon subscribers. The fact that anyone would subscribe to Icstor's patreon just after hearing about an update is about the dumbest thing you can imagine. Will the update come out eventually? Probably, definitely not this month. Will it come out in April? Who knows, but considering the previews have already stopped it is not looking good.
In case I haven't been clear enough in my complete financial disconnect to the Patreon so far:

There is no point in subscribing to the Patreon.

This is literally a pirate site. You can steal a copy for free on the first page.
 

Onyxdime

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Well, it's definitely not a coincidence, that's for sure. Incstor is only active again because, like you showed, his support was falling. He wants to keep the money rolling in so he started working on the game again. Onyxdime works for Incstor, supposedly on commission (i.e. he writes the scenes and dialogue for X amount of renders for Y amount of money). So does working for Incstor on commission make you a part of the scam? I'd say no, because at the end of the day if Onyxdime refused to take commission work from a scammer, then the scammer would just go to someone else. So you can fault him for that if you want, but in my opinion it's not a big deal, whatever, go make your money.

However, I don't think it's that simple. Because like you showed, as soon as the patreon hit it's low point in October 2022 all of a sudden Onyxdime is back here posting in the thread. And that doesn't necessarily mean anything, because why not pop in and let people know the games back on? But that's not all Onyxdime did/is doing. He's doing much more than that. He's been very active in this thread giving people updates, answering peoples questions, and basically just acting as an ambassador of Incstor/Milfy City to the community. He's playing a very active role in getting people interested in the game again.

So if Onyxdime's financial stake in this game starts and ends with the flat commission fee Incstor is paying him, then why is Onyxdime so persistent and seem so concerend with getting people interested in this game again and salvaging the games reputation? What does he care about that, what is he getting out of it? You don't see the coder or other artist doing that... And you don't see them doing that because that's not there job, it's Incstor's, since Incstor is the one who is making money from the patreon and is the one who benefits from seeing the patreon grow, not the comission workers. So if you're just a comission worker, why are you doing PR for Incstor?

So it's for those reasons I think Onyxdime isn't being entirely truthful, or is misleading people, about his financial stake in this game. I imagine that the more money Incstor makes on patreon, the more money Onyxdime makes as well, which is why he's so interested in playing these PR games.

So I definitely think it's fair to say Onyxdime is in on the scam. Only the most delusional of paypigs think that Incstor is anything but a liar, scammer, milker, or whatever other name you want to call him. Only the most delusional of payings think that what's going on now is anything more than just Incstor doing some work to get his finances back up so that he can go back to spending the next 2+ years collecting fat checks for nothing. And Onyxdime isn't stupid, he seens like a smart guy. So he should know who Incstor really is, in fact, given how his working relationship with Incstor he should know better than anyone who Incstor really is and what he's really doing. He's not some unknowing participant ignorant of what's really going on and what's been going on for years.

He knows that Incstor isn't turning over a new leaf and isn't going to start being honest and fulfill his promises. He knows that Incstor will eventually disappear again after a couple of updates (if he even puts out any) after his patreon support has recovered. And despite knowing this he is actively helping it grow by trying to get people interested again. So yes Onyxdime is definitely in on the scam because he's so active in helping this scammer. And he's probably so active because the more money the scam makes, the more money he makes. Like I said before, you don't see the coder or other artist doing what Onyxdime is doing, because true commission workers have no incentive too.

And once the game is dead again, Onyxdime will disappear. And then years later when Incstor comes back and decides it's time to give the pigs another feeding, Onyxdime will come back right along with him and go out there on the front lines to try and get more pigs into the slaughterhouse so he can get more bacon.
In all fairness, I've been posting on here even when ICSTOR wasn't around.

Take a look at my comments back in 2020/2021. I was saying that I hadn't heard from ICSTOR or that contact had been infrequent with no news about the game.

Only here now because I actually have progress to share on the writing side of the business.

And when I don't have any progress to share, I've been telling people that to. e.g. I'm still waiting for Liza/Yazmin and Sara/Lily before I can finish.
 

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I much prefer just having the patreon to support with a few goody extras and make the actual game free. Win win all round. Probably what I will do when my first release comes around in a few months!
 
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