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I mean, it is a pity really. If the Dev just put in the effort he would have made more money. complete this game and work on others. Intentionally dragging out things out gives you short term boons, sure, I get it. But putting in the leg work will gift you more money in the long run. It's a shame, really, that short term greed often consumes some developers.
Well he's already made 7 figures off his games and is still pulling in over 6 figures a year. He's probably already set for life and doesn't need more money, and even if he's not now he will be by the time his patreon ever truly dies. So at this point he'd probably rather just never do any work and have endless free time than make more money. And if his patreon ever drops he'll just send onyxdime or someone else to go try and convince people to resubscribe, if that doesn't work he can always actually do some work and release some updates, and if that doesn't work and his patreon does die for good then he won't care because he hasn't worked in years and will never have to work again. You are right he could make even more money long term, but he doesn't need it and clearly prioritizes his free time over even more money.
 

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F.I.L.F. is basically the same, the story is much more simple, but the game mechanic is exactly the same. And, as a bonus, the dev is consistent, active and doesn't waste time. Is also available on STEAM.
meh, iccreations is by far less scammy than ICSTOR but he has also had LOONG pauses with silent treatment. Also his games have become buggy as hell which is quite annoying
 

Lupin the 3rd

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Even as late as the middle of March he was still claiming that the update would be out in March.
No he said it is possible to come out in March IF he would get the renders in time. But Lazy Icstor hasn´t done that so Onyx said that April is more likely. But I think Icstor fucked up yet again. You can´t give the writer the fault IF he didn´t get the Renders in time, that´s the artist fault (Icstor and the "Team" who helps with the renders).

If it was supposedly so close to being completed it would be out in 2 weeks, then how are we going into may with no release in sight? How did it go from 2 weeks until release in mid March, to the update only being 70% completed a month later? But even though he said it was 70% completed he still said it’d be released in April? But just like March, that obviously didn’t happen.
Maybe it´s Icstors Work that´s missing here. They said that they hired People to help with the renders. Maybe the Renders from the other people are done and Icstors Renders are missing because of his laziness. That would be a typical Icstor Issue.

He was just working for incstor trying to make people feel like the game was alive again so that they’d resubscribe to the patreon.
Yes that could be the case. But otherwise Onyxdime said multiple times to NOT subscribe and to wait until the previews and the games got leaked. He openly said to wait for leaks in regard of Icstor. So it´s a 50/50 if he did it for Icstors Favor or not.

Onyxdime actually praised Icstor because as he said he paid him well in the past.
Onyx praised Icstor back in 2018 when the Game was still rolling good. The Quote that someone mentioned was from 2018. We don´t know for sure if Onyx has the same opinion nowadays.
 
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Xumeey

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Is there any actual recent evidence that the April deadline is real? Like, actual communication from ICSTOR? As far as I can tell this is probably just second-hand trolling from the discord.

That being said-- Yeah, fuck milkers. But-- I love how everyone wants to be a socialist and declare we should have 4-day work weeks and 90 days of paid vacation for everyone, but when the indy developer they give $5/mo to wants to take some time off they turn into Ebenezer Scrooge McDuck and start cracking the whip.
You should have probably stopped at "fuck milkers"
 
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No he said it is possible to come out in March IF he would get the renders in time. But Lazy Icstor hasn´t done that so Onyx said that April is more likely. But I think Icstor fucked up yet again. You can´t give the writer the fault IF he didn´t get the Renders in time, that´s the artist fault (Icstor and the "Team" who helps with the renders).



Maybe it´s Icstors Work that´s missing here. They said that they hired People to help with the renders. Maybe the Renders from the other people are done and Icstors Renders are missing because of his laziness. That would be a typical Icstor Issue.



Yes that could be the case. But otherwise Onyxdime said multiple times to NOT subscribe and to wait until the previews and the games got leaked. He openly said to wait for leaks in regard of Icstor. So it´s a 50/50 if he did it for Icstors Favor or not.



Onyx praised Icstor back in 2018 when the Game was still rolling good. The Quote that someone mentioned was from 2018. We don´t know for sure if Onyx has the same opinion nowadays.
Why would he give a release date when he’s still waiting for incstor to finish his work? He knows incstors history, he knows there’s a very good chance incstor won’t follow through, yet onyxdime made it a point to tell people the game will be coming out and that he’ll see it through to completion. Why would you insist on that for a known liar like incstor?

He knows incstor will probably fail to deliver like he always does, so why put your own reputation at risk for him? Why try to convince and reassure people the game is coming out soon when he knows incstor will most likely fail to deliver? There are 2 reasons why someone would do that. Either that person is an idiot who doesn’t realize the truth about incstor, which we know is not the case for onyxdime, or that person is working for incstor to try and convince people the game is alive because he knows that’ll get people to subscribe to the patreon. Pretty clear it’s the latter.

If onyxdime was genuine he’d let people know what’s going on, where the renders are, why they were late, when they’ll be here, etc. But notice how he’s stopped posting here? It’s because he was always full of shit and was just paid to shill here.
 
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You should have probably stopped at "fuck milkers"
Yeah. I started going on a not-actually-on-topic rant and it was read as defending icwhatsisnuts here, which was definitely not the intent. Don't drink & post, kids.
 

7empest5teele

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I am guessing that this game is complete, but how does that work with having no abandoned tag?
Obviously, there is still a connection to the community, and if it's not finished, why hasn't there been anything new since the last time I came in here maybe last year?
No need to grill me on it, I have no idea when I was here last, its just been an incredibly long time.
 

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I am guessing that this game is complete, but how does that work with having no abandoned tag?
Obviously, there is still a connection to the community, and if it's not finished, why hasn't there been anything new since the last time I came in here maybe last year?
No need to grill me on it, I have no idea when I was here last, its just been an incredibly long time.
Game isn't complete, sadly. However the Dev did say a complete version would be released by now. A few times in fact. How ever every time his patreon levels dip he releases a preview, or something like that, and his patreon count rises again. So it is the general consensus that they are, purposefully, milking money from their subscriber base and doing the very bare minimum (working at a very slow snails pace) to get the product finished. If they ever do decide to do that.
 
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1. why is a freelance writer having anything to do with a hiring process of something outside his scope of specialties?
2. onyx praised icstor this year for paying him well and avoids any questions about the morality of working for a scammer.
3. onyx was here doing dmg control as a distraction and continuing scamstors lies with 0 proof of any truth to his claims.
4. The forum presence of onyx and his claims are enough for some sheep to believe and resub even if he is not outright promoting scamtors patreon, he is promoting it by association and his claims, regardless of him saying he doesn't promote it.
5. onyx coincidentally took a "vacation but not a vacation" at a very coincidental/crucial time for the games release.
6. why the fk are you sticking up for onyx? do you have any proof of any of his claims? can you prove he didn't get said renders yet, that you are passing the blame off to scamstor or new said employees?
7. how much is onyx paying you? nothing? then you might want to get off his D.
He paid me for my game,

Maybe he's been busy playing Sexbot this whole time, never know :geek:
 

7empest5teele

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Game isn't complete, sadly. However the Dev did say a complete version would be released by now. A few times in fact. How ever every time his patreon levels dip he releases a preview, or something like that, and his patreon count rises again. So it is the general consensus that they are, purposefully, milking money from their subscriber base and doing the very bare minimum (working at a very slow snails pace) to get the product finished. If they ever do decide to do that.
Ah so he is a milker...going by how this has been in production for over 5 years... I'd say it's working just fine for him.
When WAS the last update, I installed new NvME drives last year, then consolidated, so it's been a VERY long time, yet this still hasn't been abandoned or listed as such.
 

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I am guessing that this game is complete, but how does that work with having no abandoned tag?
Obviously, there is still a connection to the community, and if it's not finished, why hasn't there been anything new since the last time I came in here maybe last year?
No need to grill me on it, I have no idea when I was here last, its just been an incredibly long time.
The consensus (cough for most cough) is that ICSTOR is a scammer. As Orgitas said, the dev updates for the most part only come when Patreon numbers are looking low. Along side that, we've been promised an update repeatedly throughout the time since the last update yet it never came and obviously still hasn't. Last I heard the "update" was 90% finished but there's really no telling if that's true or not outside of images with months of time in between them. Also, if memory serves anyway, ICSTOR has a history of abandoning all his (their?) projects. And what do you mean by no abandonded tag?
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