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Yup this game has been abandoned for 3+ years and no, substantial, evidence has been provided that it will be released any time soon. Despite having asked for such by multiple people.
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Reluctant sex and sexual assault are definitely not okay with Patreon.
They demanded that we explicitly redesign every sleeping scene to have the girl wake up, give consent to pretending to be molested while she slept, and then continue the scene.
Completely and utterly ludicrous in my opinion. Fiction and fantasies are =/= reality.
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Yes, they're all getting proper conclusions that tie up their stories.
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Another delay the update was meant to be march then may and now it says coming soon which is probably gonna be august if we lucky or September….
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Very shortly, ICSTOR will be sending me Liza and Yazmin's renders.
At that point I will have every single render, and the rest of the team will be waiting on me to finish writing them.
I think I should be held accountable for the pace of my progress, so I update it on here.
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yeah about 4 years ago. Didnt you get the news?? It was everywhere in the news. He is living on the moon together with DarkCookie
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Ah, that makes sense. Well.. not sense, as I agree the whole morality policing re: fiction is absolutely senseless.
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I haven't played since the Patreon issue, so forgive me for not knowing how the sleeping scenes were handled, but it would be nice if the sleeping scenes were kept in pretty much as is condition except with them waking up to consent and the incest patch just so happened to skip the waking sections of the scene. Probably make Patreon happy and it just means the original version would feel a little weird because of the extra text.
Assuming this isn't all more of a scam I'm curious if ISTOR will actually make the game free. When I was a patreon years ago he promised it would be free at least to everyone that had supported him up until that point since it was taking so long. I guess we'll see if he was honest about something.
I'm happy we *may* be getting an update, but I'll never give them another cent. Releasing the game doesn't even set the scales back to zero, but at least it would be something.
I'm happy we *may* be getting an update, but I'll never give them another cent. Releasing the game doesn't even set the scales back to zero, but at least it would be something.
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what do you mean free? youre on f95zone, every game is free.
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If it is free to those who supported him then it isn't free - as you paid him as a supporter. The man likes money and has dragged this final edition on for 3+ years. With no actual proof it is coming. If a final version does come it will be heavily modified due to patreon. With all the fan favourite things either watered down or removed.
I doubt it will change the public perception of Icstor if he did release it. He'd have to make a decent game from start to finish and keep to his promises for that to change.
Years ago, when Patreon really started cracking down on "immoral" content and forcing devs to edit their games or heavily alter their ongoing projects, I remember thinking not just how dubious, intruding, and arbitrary it was, but also how obviously hypocritical and potentially unfair it would be.
For example, I guess pretty much everyone is familiar with George R. R. Martin's work, either through his books or the very popular TV adaptation of A Song of Ice and Fire. Both the books and the show include not one but several incestuous relationships. Those are not casual, background occurrences involving minor characters—they are an integral part of the main plot and pivotal elements for several main characters' narrative arcs. Non-consensual sex and (very) underage relationships are also hinted at and sometimes explicitly exposed. There are several passages that are actual medieval fantasy porn worthy of being included in any game available on the F95 zone. In essence, I think we could assume George is quite the perv.
What's interesting to me is thinking of Patreon, say, trying to contact Martin's representatives if he happened to desire to use the platform to kickstart one ASOIAF short story collection, calendar, etc. It's unlikely that might be needed, of course, but let's assume it could happen. Would Patreon go like: "Hey, George, you know that stuff about the Targaryens, man? Yeah, well, it has to go. You see, payment companies, banks and such. Could you make those siblings, dunno, roommates or something? Like, please?" I don't think so.
It's not just Patreon—I know Kickstarter bans people for even less (just for political sympathies, in some cases), and Indiegogo, which seemed a safer alternative, has started to indulge in such shenanigans too. These platforms are both hypocritical and servile, strong and unrelenting with the weak, and pliant and subservient to the powerful.
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