Ren'Py Completed Milfy City [v1.0e] [ICSTOR]

[S4nd M4n]

Looks like Milking money project syndicate.

 

[Boopeeman]

Very shortly, ICSTOR will be sending me Liza and Yazmin's renders.

At that point I will have every single render, and the rest of the team will be waiting on me to finish writing them.

I think I should be held accountable for the pace of my progress, so I update it on here.

Have you finished writing for all the other characters?

 

[Teaber]

Ah, that makes sense. Well.. not sense, as I agree the whole morality policing re: fiction is absolutely senseless.

Years ago, when Patreon really started cracking down on "immoral" content and forcing devs to edit their games or heavily alter their ongoing projects, I remember thinking not just how dubious, intruding, and arbitrary it was, but also how obviously hypocritical and potentially unfair it would be.

For example, I guess pretty much everyone is familiar with George R. R. Martin's work, either through his books or the very popular TV adaptation of A Song of Ice and Fire. Both the books and the show include not one but several incestuous relationships. Those are not casual, background occurrences involving minor characters—they are an integral part of the main plot and pivotal elements for several main characters' narrative arcs. Non-consensual sex and (very) underage relationships are also hinted at and sometimes explicitly exposed. There are several passages that are actual medieval fantasy porn worthy of being included in any game available on the F95 zone. In essence, I think we could assume George is quite the perv.

What's interesting to me is thinking of Patreon, say, trying to contact Martin's representatives if he happened to desire to use the platform to kickstart one ASOIAF short story collection, calendar, etc. It's unlikely that might be needed, of course, but let's assume it could happen. Would Patreon go like: "Hey, George, you know that stuff about the Targaryens, man? Yeah, well, it has to go. You see, payment companies, banks and such. Could you make those siblings, dunno, roommates or something? Like, please?" I don't think so.

It's not just Patreon—I know Kickstarter bans people for even less (just for political sympathies, in some cases), and Indiegogo, which seemed a safer alternative, has started to indulge in such shenanigans too. These platforms are both hypocritical and servile, strong and unrelenting with the weak, and pliant and subservient to the powerful.

 

[Orgitas]

iirc mastercard are really putting the pressure on sites that allow NSFW content. So certain standards have to be met.

 

[GandalfTheGrey91]

So any criticism ends up being deleted now?

 

[Chazz1239]

Years ago, when Patreon really started cracking down on "immoral" content and forcing devs to edit their games or heavily alter their ongoing projects, I remember thinking not just how dubious, intruding, and arbitrary it was, but also how obviously hypocritical and potentially unfair it would be.

For example, I guess pretty much everyone is familiar with George R. R. Martin's work, either through his books or the very popular TV adaptation of A Song of Ice and Fire. Both the books and the show include not one but several incestuous relationships. Those are not casual, background occurrences involving minor characters—they are an integral part of the main plot and pivotal elements for several main characters' narrative arcs. Non-consesual sex and (very) underage relationships are also hinted at and sometimes explicitly exposed. There are several passages that are actual medieval fantasy porn worthy of being included in any game available on the F95 zone. In essence, I think we could assume George is quite the perv.

What's interesting to me is thinking of Patreon, say, trying to contact Martin's representatives if he happened to desire to use the platform to kickstart one ASOIAF short story collection, calendar, etc. It's unlikely that might be needed, of course, but let's assume it could happen. Would Patreon go like: "Hey, George, you know that stuff about the Targaryens, man? Yeah, well, it has to go. You see, payment companies, banks and such. Could you make those siblings, dunno, roommates or somethings? Like, please?" I don't think so.

It's not just Patreon—I know Kickstarter bans people for even less (just for political sympathies, in some cases), and Indiegogo, wich seemed a safer alternative, has started to indulge in such shenanigans too. These platforms are both hypocritical and servile, strong and unrelenting with the weak, and pliant and subservient to the powerful.

What about SubscribeStar, how are their policies ?

 

[Deleted member 795684]

Will there be harem ending at all?

 

[Teaber]

What about SubscribeStar, how are their policies ?

I haven't personally used that one, but based on what I've seen, they seem much more open and less intrusive. That being said, Indiegogo seemed to be a good alternative, too, until they weren't. One major problem seems to be, like someone said in a previous post, payment companies exert pressure, but I doubt that tells the whole story. More likely, it's just a convenient excuse to shield the (ideologically motivated) actions of people employed by the platforms themselves.

 

[Deleted member 6087941]

I've been on SubStar for a couple of years now with no content issues at all and no "pre-patched" games and the devs are free to pretty much release what they want. They don't do PayPal or anything just straight credit card subs. It buries Patreon in a lot of ways and you'll get very little worry or backlash about dev and game content

 

[Ennoch]

Will there be harem ending at all?

Nope. Obviously nobody wanted a harem ending and instead wanted to have nice big scenes with obscure side characters

Don't ask such silly questions like why spending all the time on those instead of doing a massive extended all out harem fuckery because nobody fucking knows ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Ennoch]

Addition to my above statement, just to make things clear.
I know exactly why, i just don't like it.

 

[Deleted member 795684]

Addition to my above statement, just to make things clear.
I know exactly, i just don't like it.

Well, maybe 3some with mom&Sara/Violet? Little bit of hope. My favoruite kind of 3some.

 

[wdadwwadawd]

Release date ?

 

[kcaldw]

Release date ?

between now and never. People have been asking that same question for a couple of years now.

 

[MurkyTurtle]

I haven't personally used that one, but based on what I've seen, they seem much more open and less intrusive. That being said, Indiegogo seemed to be a good alternative, too, until they weren't. One major problem seems to be, like someone said in a previous post, payment companies exert pressure, but I doubt that tells the whole story. More likely, it's just a convenient excuse to shield the (ideologically motivated) actions of people employed by the platforms themselves.

In all corners of life, money overrides ideological concerns nearly every time. One or two zealots might join up to someplace like Patreon with fanatical goals of ridding it of smut, but in the end the people in charge will always accept legal money. The payment processors are the same way: for years, Visa, Mastercard, Paypal, and so on cheerfully processed payments to Pornhub, Xvideos, and many other openly pornographic websites.

What changed was the scope. Patreon got big enough to attract the attention of governments and moral activist groups who weren't thrilled about legally-iffy topics like incest, bestiality, and the like. Everybody loves money, but nobody loves law enforcement attention, major media articles, or Congressional subpoenas. The NY Times expose on Pornhub's shitty moderation allowing revenge porn to stay up (again at the behest of an anti-porn group) furthered this chill and caused the payment processors to think twice about working with adult content. Given the choice between taking a stance and having the larger business threatened, they'll always side with the business. It's also why Tumblr, Imgur, and (soon) Reddit are moving away from porn, because investors in their upcoming IPOs don't want any unwanted attention from anti-porn groups either.

TL;DR: You don't fuck with the money. If smut fucks with the money, smut loses.

 

[Orgitas]

Release date ?

No evidence anything is actually coming out. Last release was 3+ years ago. So a release date? I think we'll likely colonize mars before another update of this comes out.

 

[Aki0349]

Are you really sure that this game, which even its producer abandoned and which has come up with a ton of alternatives as time progressed, is a work that is good enough to talk about for pages every day to continue?

 

[Teaber]

In all corners of life, money overrides ideological concerns nearly every time. One or two zealots might join up to someplace like Patreon with fanatical goals of ridding it of smut, but in the end the people in charge will always accept legal money. The payment processors are the same way: for years, Visa, Mastercard, Paypal, and so on cheerfully processed payments to Pornhub, Xvideos, and many other openly pornographic websites.

What changed was the scope. Patreon got big enough to attract the attention of governments and moral activist groups who weren't thrilled about legally-iffy topics like incest, bestiality, and the like. Everybody loves money, but nobody loves law enforcement attention, major media articles, or Congressional subpoenas. The NY Times expose on Pornhub's shitty moderation allowing revenge porn to stay up (again at the behest of an anti-porn group) furthered this chill and caused the payment processors to think twice about working with adult content. Given the choice between taking a stance and having the larger business threatened, they'll always side with the business. It's also why Tumblr, Imgur, and (soon) Reddit are moving away from porn, because investors in their upcoming IPOs don't want any unwanted attention from anti-porn groups either.

TL;DR: You don't fuck with the money. If smut fucks with the money, smut loses.

Completely agree. In fact, that kind of external influence, and worse, is pretty much pervasive nowadays (ESG system). The thing is, what we are saying is not mutually exclusive. The cultural context is what it is, and what it has been for years now. The fact that those "motivated" actors I was talking about are even accepted, or tolerated after some time, speaks volumes. I mentioned Indiegogo and Kickstarter because I'm a comic book fan who's been pretty much forced to buy either indie comics or manga, and I've seen the way those platforms have been acting against certain authors who happen not to be perfectly aligned with the dominant intersectional approach to fiction. No spicy stuff, no extreme violent content—just regular superhero action and fantasy, yet, at best, their campaigns get shadowbanned and, at worst, they are booted from the platform.

The political and media pressure you described so well is a major direct factor, but it also had the unfortunate side effect of empowering certain kind of activist who might be able to find his/her way into a position of power at a company. When that happens, you can be sure they will act. And they will be both thorough and petty beyond belief.

 

[BOBBINO122045]

Very shortly, ICSTOR will be sending me Liza and Yazmin's renders.

At that point I will have every single render, and the rest of the team will be waiting on me to finish writing them.

I think I should be held accountable for the pace of my progress, so I update it on here.

Onyxdime u got Liza and Yazmin's renders yet?

 

[Onyxdime]

Have you finished writing for all the other characters?

Every character is complete and sent to the programmer for coding with the exceptions of:
Lily and Sara: Currently writing these.
Violet: I'll start her story as soon as I complete Lily and Sara.
Liza and Yazmin: I'm waiting for ICSTOR to send these renders across.