Ren'Py Completed Milfy City [v1.0e] [ICSTOR]

[Q Who]

He's getting under a tenth of the income of icstor probably because the models looks like they are made on paint.

Im not a icstor fanboy but milfy city is on another league compared to 99,99% of the games here , not only the render are crazy good but animations , story , characters developpement.

Comparing icstor work to this game is pretty much a comparison between a bike to a lambo , both can be used to travel from point A to B but its not the same finition

Only the renders are crazy good, the best available. The stories are not very good in this game, however. In fact, the story is complete garbage. The initial plot about his embarrassing confession proceeded and then... nothing. It then became updates about a single character and the resulting sex. A character is brought in, a bit of development, sex... gone. There is no real continuity, even Linda's character is not well done. And hers is the most developed character. The kissing animation is really good. The rest are not that great at all. This game could be a Lambo vs bike but instead is more like a half finished build. So it is a bike vs a Lambo up on blocks. The Lambo looks great but it just sits there.

I love the renders in this game(none better) but there is no humor, no development, and no replay value at all. So many games blow this one away in every category...except renders.

 

[Arthoneceron]

I was replaying Milfy City because I wanted to remember the game on it's full glory, but since I was playing lots of games since the latest release, I realized something: Milfy City is a engaging game with lots of memorable characters, but it's not the most well written game/visual novel ever. Being honest, there's some inconsistencies here and there, mainly involving the Linda/Judy relationship. It's not a bad thing, but it's too bad that the game takes too much time to receive an update. Maybe going back for the game after being with Dreams of Desire or Where the Heart is was a bad idea.

But, honestly, when I look again to Linda/Caroline/Sara, my poor heart melts and I think that this whole recovery time will work well for the game and for ICSTOR.

 

[Frank01]

Oh no. First Veqil, now icstore.

 

[meiiku]

I was replaying Milfy City because I wanted to remember the game on it's full glory, but since I was playing lots of games since the latest release, I realized something: Milfy City is a engaging game with lots of memorable characters, but it's not the most well written game/visual novel ever. Being honest, there's some inconsistencies here and there, mainly involving the Linda/Judy relationship. It's not a bad thing, but it's too bad that the game takes too much time to receive an update. Maybe going back for the game after being with Dreams of Desire or Where the Heart is was a bad idea.

But, honestly, when I look again to Linda/Caroline/Sara, my poor heart melts and I think that this whole recovery time will work well for the game and for ICSTOR.

Yeah I feel like this was a game which I have fond memories of and I still count as one of my favorites, but I wouldn't nescesarily consider it a writing masterpiece.

 

[Bruce_Wayne18]

Lol that has to be the lamest excuse ever to take a break I'm not buying the whole 'it's taken a toll on my health' shtick. People with real jobs can work without taking a vacation and getting sick.

I'd respect the dude much more if he'd said 'I want to take a break and enjoy some well-deserved vacation with the money I earned'. At least don't insult my intelligence

 

[goobdoob]

Lol that has to be the lamest excuse ever to take a break I'm not buying the whole 'it's taken a toll on my health' shtick. People with real jobs can work without taking a vacation and getting sick.

I'd respect the dude much more if he'd said 'I want to take a break and enjoy some well-deserved vacation with the money I earned'. At least don't insult my intelligence

Do you know how much time these guys spend doing this? It's a ton - like 80+ hours/week. That will take a toll on his health. Plus, who are you to assess what his mental state is?

 

[Walg]

Lol that has to be the lamest excuse ever to take a break I'm not buying the whole 'it's taken a toll on my health' shtick. People with real jobs can work without taking a vacation and getting sick.

I'd respect the dude much more if he'd said 'I want to take a break and enjoy some well-deserved vacation with the money I earned'. At least don't insult my intelligence

I'd suggest that you try being a dev on the side like most dev's here who still work full time jobs/full time study for a month and see what it takes to push out quality content if you think it's a lame excuse.

 

[Bruce_Wayne18]

Do you know how much time these guys spend doing this? It's a ton - like 80+ hours/week. That will take a toll on his health. Plus, who are you to assess what his mental state is?

How do you know how many hours a week 'they' are putting in? ICSTOR isn't one of the most transparent developers out there. And I didn't talk about his mental state and neither did he. So you are assuming on both counts.

If the dude really has mental issues I don't blame him for taking the time off to solve them. From his statement he makes it sound physical which to me seems kinda far fetched.

 

[Bruce_Wayne18]

I'd suggest that you try being a dev on the side like most dev's here who still work full time jobs/full time study for a month and see what it takes to push out quality content if you think it's a lame excuse.

Yeeeeaaaaah... I'm not going to do a job that I don't enjoy AND makes me physically ill so: no thanks

Plus in my line of work, I won't take someone's money if there's a big chance I won't be able to deliver. That's just me though.
My point being: The guy makes it sound like he's tired from mining for uranium in the 1950's

 

[goobdoob]

How do you know how many hours a week 'they' are putting in? ICSTOR isn't one of the most transparent developers out there. And I didn't talk about his mental state and neither did he. So you are assuming on both counts.

If the dude really has mental issues I don't blame him for taking the time off to solve them. From his statement he makes it sound physical which to me seems kinda far fetched.

He said this:
"(For example no more character polls. I’ll create updates for characters that I’m in the mood for writing about. This should help me avoid getting burned out again.)"

Burned out. Mental state.

As for time, look at the images. You can't get images of that quality by throwing some poses together in Daz, then letting the computer crank them out while you lounge by the pool. That quality takes a lot of time posing, then rendering, then a ton of time in post. And did you notice I said "these guys", not "ICSTOR"? Other devs have posted about how much time they put in, and the ones who make quality renders are saying 80-100 hours of job + game dev. I'm assuming ICSTOR is spending a similar amount of time.

 

[Deleted member 15555]

stop advertising games here guys, this thread is to talk about icstor games or milfy city, not to advertise any other good developer.
you can have signatures for that if u want, but coming here to trash talk a dev and advertise another is plainly rude.

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[Bruce_Wayne18]

He said this:
"(For example no more character polls. I’ll create updates for characters that I’m in the mood for writing about. This should help me avoid getting burned out again.)"

Burned out. Mental state.

As for time, look at the images. You can't get images of that quality by throwing some poses together in Daz, then letting the computer crank them out while you lounge by the pool. That quality takes a lot of time posing, then rendering, then a ton of time in post. And did you notice I said "these guys", not "ICSTOR"? Other devs have posted about how much time they put in, and the ones who make quality renders are saying 80-100 hours of job + game dev. I'm assuming ICSTOR is spending a similar amount of time.

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None of the definitions relate to 'mental state'. More like he's bored of it from the way he's put it, hence why he'll be making the decisions for character content going forth.

I know how much time developers are putting in, so skip the lecture. And again you are speculating on the time he puts in. Not that I mind or blame him for slacking or anything of the sort. His work speaks volumes for itself. But neither you or I can know how much time he puts in, or his mental state.

I don't really care about that. What I do care about, is the fact that the dude really seems to be making half-assed excuses whereas if he'd been honest like I said before, I wouldn't mind at all.

 

[Deleted member 15555]

His work speaks volumes for itself. But neither you or I can know how much time he puts in, or his mental state.

I don't really care about that. What I do care about, is the fact that the dude really seems to be making half-assed excuses whereas if he'd been honest like I said before, I wouldn't mind at all.

you are contradicting yourself in that same post

you say you dont know his mental state or no one knows yet you call a fact what you consider "half assed excuses"

 

[Bruce_Wayne18]

you are contradicting yourself in that same post

you say you dont know his mental state or no one knows yet you call a fact what you consider "half assed excuses"

'half-assed excuses' is my own personal opinion based on what he said. I'm not assuming they are half-assed. I know they are by reading what he said. He never said anything about his mental state nor did I ever assume what his mental condition is.

Would you care to elaborate or rephrase what you think the contradiction is? I don't see it.

 

[Deleted member 15555]

'half-assed excuses' is my own personal opinion based on what he said. I'm not assuming they are half-assed. I know they are by reading what he said. He never said anything about his mental state nor did I ever assume what his mental condition is.

Would you care to elaborate or rephrase what you think the contradiction is? I don't see it.

calling facts for what you assume for example, also you dont think 4 years of no vacations cant make someone burn out physically or mentally ?

 

[Bruce_Wayne18]

calling facts for what you asume for example, also you dont think 4 years of no vacations cant make someone burn out physically or mentally ?

It IS a fact that my opinion of his excuse is half-assed based on what I perceive to be a cheap excuse. He gave me his excuse, I read it and I have formed an opinion about it. And the same is true for you. You assume his excuse is valid and real. I still don't see a contradiction.

And no, I don't think that someone working a desk job from home, who doesn't answer to anyone about his work and his only aim is to release an update for a game every 4-5 months, can get burned out physically or mentally. I work a desk job and I know I wouldn't get burned out in 4 years cause I enjoy what I do. I take time off cause I'd prefer doing nothing and getting paid and because I'm allowed to, not because I NEED to. And if I'm being honest I'd slack off all the time if I was doing some other job that paid more where I'd be my own boss and people were paying me without seeing what I'm working on. (which is why I will never be a game developer btw)

Which is why I said I'd respect him a whole lot more if he'd said he just wants to chill for a while.

You agree with me that's fine, you don't that's also fine, just don't try to change my opinion and I will do the same.

 

[Blitzen]

calling facts for what you assume for example, also you dont think 4 years of no vacations cant make someone burn out physically or mentally ?

Funny i can bet my left kidney if he didnt make as much money as he did. He 100% wouldn't be on some rehab or recharge vacation. I mean i dont really care when he puts out his updates its his game, but if his patreons are buying that bs yeeaaahhhh this ain't it chief.

 

[401Grem]

Well, just remember, that whatever his reasons, it's none of anyone else's business, and not a productive part of game conversation here. So ya, you're entitled to your opinions regarding what you think you know about his work practice, but that doesn't entitle anyone to use their biased opinions of things that bear no concern to themselves, or this thread, to further defame a dev or disrupt the conversation.

 

[Q Who]

calling facts for what you assume for example, also you dont think 4 years of no vacations cant make someone burn out physically or mentally ?

Wow did you even have the care to think logically about your thought? In the first part of your thought, you are critical of Bruce for making assumptions. Then you continue your thought with what can only be seen as an assumption. Do you know this guy personally? Do you know how many hours he actually puts in? Do you know that he has not taken a vacation in 4 years? How? because some guy who you know nothing about, got that part, nothing says so? I know as much about the developer as you do, he makes really great renders and average games.

I think what Mr. Bookman says at 3:20 sums it up

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[goobdoob]

Wow did you even have the care to think logically about your thought? In the first part of your thought, you are critical of Bruce for making assumptions. Then you continue your thought with what can only be seen as an assumption. Do you know this guy personally? Do you know how many hours he actually puts in? Do you know that he has not taken a vacation in 4 years? How? because some guy who you know nothing about, got that part, nothing says so? I know as much about the developer as you do, he makes really great renders and average games.

I think what Mr. Bookman says at 3:20 sums it up
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Here's how we know he hasn't taken a vacation in 4 years:

"Hi everyone, it’s about damn time I gave you all an update. I’m not gonna lie, I’ve been having a few problems in my personal life which have taken a toll on my health. It’s now been more than FOUR full years that I’ve been developing adult games without taking a vacation. (Not even once!)"

Unless you think he's lying.

Here's what I know - he said:
"I’m completely broken and exhausted, so I need a break to recover. I’ll be taking a month or two away from developing to get my health back on track."

and

"I pushed myself too hard."

and

"This should help me avoid getting burned out again."

I choose to take his statements at face value. So, we get that he's burned out, and at the end of his rope. He feels he needs a break, so he's taking one. He's paused his Patreon. He took too long to pause it for April, so he said he's going to keep it paused for the month he comes back to work.

You can believe him or not, that's your choice. But really, arguing about it here does nothing. We should stop before the mods slap us down.

All quotes are from the "News about v0.6" spoiler in the OP.