Ren'Py Completed Milfy City [v1.0e] [ICSTOR]

[Kameramani222]

Anything new?

 

[Mormont]

Caroline a cow? Celia ugly?

I respect you for your restraint there I really hope that guy was just trolling and not being serious is the drought of Milfy City making people insane?

 

[TheFinder]

Anything new?

No, we just know the update is coming but not when.

 

[MR.Z...]

what happenedto he update?

 

[4Remon]

no all previews he posts on discord pubilcy are renders used in the game the ones in his exclusive discord nitro / patreon channel are special renders

not everything is true, but in part these are bonuses, I wanted to say this since almost the entire image with Celia looks like a bonus except for the scene in soul)

 

[sandstorm1872]

I've been sitting on the fence for quite a while now and I understand the main viewpoints expressed in this thread: some claim that someone who makes $40,000 a month should be more professional (or professionalized if you prefer), while some argue that non-patreons shouldn't whine about the lack of updates and aren't morally allowed to criticize Icstor so harshly.
Both are right up to a point.

However, something that I will never get my head around is the stupid argument that patreons who support devs don't pay for them to deliver a certain work. What do they pay for then? So that they can fulfill themselves doing what makes them happy? "They are artists, don't push them!". That's absolute nonsense in my opinion. Patreon supporters pay a dev in exchange for his developing a game; the frequency and extension of each update is to be decided and stated honestly by each dev in advance, and then you are free to decide if you want to spend your money on that person or not.
But $40,000 is almost twice the average yearly salary in my country and I'm from Western Europe. This is his job, not his hobby.

Exactly my point as well. As I said, no one cares for a game satisfy their fetishes, when there are even better games as well as real porn out there. Since ICSTOR started Milfy City, these other games have taken the crown of popularity from the game IMO, he made hay so long because he was one of the first. So if this update doesn't deliver and the next one is delayed by an year, I wouldn't be surprised if people lose interest, which many patrons already have.

 

[sandstorm1872]

As I mentioned above, the Dev has already stated where they are at with the game now and planning forward - yet you keep insinuating that they are hiding something. Your point is coming from an assumption - does it have any grounding in evidence? I am a big fan of a couple other devs - and I support them - one with a solid history of monthly updates and regular communications, the other who has slowed in updates and communications over a half year period but still has my faith in their efforts from what they have communicated - when they had the time - about their path towards upcoming releases.

Everyone here has seen and read how ICSTOR handles communications about release development and he's been rather consistent in that regard. Apparently, more patronage and break time hasn't changed his game dev or project management style, who would have thunk it?

So, while I agree more public updates might be nice for some people and even suggested so earlier in this topic , it's apparently not seen by the Dev as a dire enough need for them to change course and manage their Patreon communications any differently. ICSTOR's business will live and die on how they handle marketing and deliverables, so it's really up to them to decide what's important for their Patrons (current and future), I feel.

Why do you wear your tinfoil hat for a straightfwd observation that I made? I don't think ICSTOR has the secrets of Area51 or any other whistleblowers that are clues in the game. If that happens, that'll be something!

The evidence is there for you to see -- check the games I mentioned in my comment i.e. Where The Heart Is, Sins of the Father, heck even Life with Pleasure, the devs reach out and drop a line or so for the fans for promos but especially delays. Doesn't hurt anybody.

Unless you're on ICSTOR's team, I'd urge you to see beyond the smoke. As I said previously, MC is a great game but ICSTOR has tough competition so unless he delivers, I don't see how he can sustain long.

Peace out mate!

 

[4Remon]

Exactly my point as well. As I said, no one cares for a game satisfy their fetishes, when there are even better games as well as real porn out there. Since ICSTOR started Milfy City, these other games have taken the crown of popularity from the game IMO, he made hay so long because he was one of the first. So if this update doesn't deliver and the next one is delayed by an year, I wouldn't be surprised if people lose interest, which many patrons already have.

when you calm down

 

[Deleted User #713463]

still no new version released

i guess this updated will be around next months hope its worth all the waiting

 

[N7's Slut]

not everything is true, but in part these are bonuses, I wanted to say this since almost the entire image with Celia looks like a bonus except for the scene in soul)

which one do you mean?

 

[Oriandu]

what happenedto he update?

Feature creep happened. Instead of completing the originally promised content of the update IC decided to tackle additional content to make up for the time and momentum lost when he took that vacation. It's just snowballed from there.

 

[MR.Z...]

Feature creep happened. Instead of completing the originally promised content of the update IC decided to tackle additional content to make up for the time and momentum lost when he took that vacation. It's just snowballed from there.

gone noew
stay strong pepe

 

[affeimzoo]

lmao

Is he really gonna miss august aswell? Guess he will just release whenever the fuck he wants. And tbh i understand why he doesnt care. His patreon is still super stronk despite the 7 (?) month of no content.

 

[Weltmeister]

lmao

Is he really gonna miss august aswell? Guess he will just release whenever the fuck he wants. And tbh i understand why he doesnt care. His patreon is still super stronk despite the 7 (?) month of no content.

Well, you're not forced to play the game and you can stop spending your money on the creator's Patreon as well.
Oh, and of course he releases it whenever the fuck he wants. That's the perk of being the creator.

 

[bigdick289]

Can't wait god dammit!

 

[fried]

Why do you wear your tinfoil hat for a straightfwd observation that I made? I don't think ICSTOR has the secrets of Area51 or any other whistleblowers that are clues in the game. If that happens, that'll be something!

The evidence is there for you to see -- check the games I mentioned in my comment i.e. Where The Heart Is, Sins of the Father, heck even Life with Pleasure, the devs reach out and drop a line or so for the fans for promos but especially delays. Doesn't hurt anybody.

Unless you're on ICSTOR's team, I'd urge you to see beyond the smoke. As I said previously, MC is a great game but ICSTOR has tough competition so unless he delivers, I don't see how he can sustain long.

Peace out mate!

Why do you wear your tinfoil hat for a straightfwd observation that I made? I don't think ICSTOR has the secrets of Area51 or any other whistleblowers that are clues in the game. If that happens, that'll be something!

The evidence is there for you to see -- check the games I mentioned in my comment i.e. Where The Heart Is, Sins of the Father, heck even Life with Pleasure, the devs reach out and drop a line or so for the fans for promos but especially delays. Doesn't hurt anybody.

Unless you're on ICSTOR's team, I'd urge you to see beyond the smoke. As I said previously, MC is a great game but ICSTOR has tough competition so unless he delivers, I don't see how he can sustain long.

Peace out mate!

I don't go for projection, sorry.

instead of being mum, he could come out and state the future of this game NOT least because this game _perhaps_ got him his bread-n-butter and all the fans on this forum and elsewhere. The game update % won't mean anything if after this or couple of updates the game gets canned. What could help him is if he's been honest about his release cycle.

...

But with the current chaos and delayed update, it would help ICSTOR's case if he establishes a timeline for future updates, also accounting for any mishaps.

As I stated twice already, ICSTOR quite publicly announced the cause of his most recent slowdown and need to take a health break, then came back (after much gnashing of teeth and wailing with sky-is-falling predictions at this site) and soon afterwards advertised the current release schedule for v0.6 content, then had a poll for content which made few people happy and announced adding neighbors+mini game content to v0.6, plus has mentioned which characters will get more attention in the followon installment. There have also been communications about writing, coding and renders to be done - including how those might push out an August v0.6 deliverable. Preview and fan favor images, etc. Meanwhile, he's also kept the % completion for the current installment updated, but that's a somewhat abstract measure.

Oh, and he's also reinforced his enthusiasm for keeping this game going since returning from a health break.

So, he's met all your criteria that you seem to feel are not being addressed.

Yet you dog-whistle that Milfy City could get "canned" in a couple of releases and that he should be "honest" (as if he hasn't been already), despite the evidence of his sharing about its future and more.

Every Dev has a different style and ICSTOR hasn't changed much in years. Considering it's still working for him, not sure why it's suddenly seen from the peanut gallery that he needs to change, lest he pull a fast one on people (as you clearly insinuate).

You also throw out the characterization of "chaos," then again insinuate that ICSTOR hasn't put up a timeline to meet your expectations - even though he has to meet his (and apparently most of his Patron's) expectations for what's coming soon and then in the next 1-2 installments. Doesn't sound like chaos or dishonesty to me - that noise comes from misleading comments and trolls, IMHO.

These are your words. If you can't live up to them, then I can't help you - only call out nonsense when it adds noise to what I'm reading and seeing.

 

[affeimzoo]

Well, you're not forced to play the game and you can stop spending your money on the creator's Patreon as well.
Oh, and of course he releases it whenever the fuck he wants. That's the perk of being the creator.

No shit sherlock. I canceled my patreon over half a year ago.

 

[sandstorm1872]

I don't go for projection, sorry.



As I stated twice already, ICSTOR quite publicly announced the cause of his most recent slowdown and need to take a health break, then came back (after much gnashing of teeth and wailing with sky-is-falling predictions at this site) and soon afterwards advertised the current release schedule for v0.6 content, then had a poll for content which made few people happy and announced adding neighbors+mini game content to v0.6, plus has mentioned which characters will get more attention in the followon installment. There have also been communications about writing, coding and renders to be done - including how those might push out an August v0.6 deliverable. Preview and fan favor images, etc. Meanwhile, he's also kept the % completion for the current installment updated, but that's a somewhat abstract measure.

Oh, and he's also reinforced his enthusiasm for keeping this game going since returning from a health break.

So, he's met all your criteria that you seem to feel are not being addressed.

He's also stated his enthusiasm for the future of the game, yet you dog-whistle that Milfy City could get "canned" in a couple of releases and that he should be "honest" (as if he hasn't been already) - there is all evidence of his sharing about its future and more to the contrary of your claimed needs for his communications to be more sincere and open.

Every Dev has a different style and ICSTOR hasn't changed much in years. Considering it's still working for him, not sure why it's suddenly seen from the peanut gallery that he needs to change, lest he pull a fast one on people (as you clearly insinuate).

You also throw out the characterization of "chaos," then again insinuate that ICSTOR hasn't put up a timeline to meet your expectations - even though he has to meet his (and apparently most of his Patron's) expectations for what's coming soon and then in the next 1-2 installments. Doesn't sound like chaos or dishonesty to me - that noise comes from misleading comments and trolls, IMHO.

These are your words. If you can't live up to them, then I can't help you - only call out nonsense when it adds noise to what I'm reading and seeing.

• I know of his breakdown and I'm considerate about it, heck the world won't end without few swimmers down the drain
• His previous estimates were late July, pushed to August, which again seems too good to be realised
• His previous workload got the better of him but considering he earned a fortune through his patrons, he isn't doing anything exceptional by informing about the status. My point comparing ICSTOR to other devs was that they earn far less yet deliver consistently.
• I admire your loyalty to him but don't expect everyone to align with it. There was a time when MC was the best game of its genre. Not anymore.
• ICSTOR's unfortunate health issues and sloppiness thereafter has left a bad taste in many fans. As I said already, I wish him luck.
• Still can't see what got you riled up? If you're party of his dev team, let him know my views, if not, take a chill pill.

 

[Viressa]

As I stated twice already, ICSTOR quite publicly announced the cause of his most recent slowdown and need to take a health break, then came back (after much gnashing of teeth and wailing with sky-is-falling predictions at this site) and soon afterwards advertised the current release schedule for v0.6 content, then had a poll for content which made few people happy and announced adding neighbors+mini game content to v0.6, plus has mentioned which characters will get more attention in the followon installment. There have also been communications about writing, coding and renders to be done - including how those might push out an August v0.6 deliverable. Preview and fan favor images, etc. Meanwhile, he's also kept the % completion for the current installment updated, but that's a somewhat abstract measure.

Oh, and he's also reinforced his enthusiasm for keeping this game going since returning from a health break.

So, he's met all your criteria that you seem to feel are not being addressed.

Yet you dog-whistle that Milfy City could get "canned" in a couple of releases and that he should be "honest" (as if he hasn't been already) - there is all evidence of his sharing about its future and more to the contrary of your claimed needs for his communications to be more sincere and open.

Every Dev has a different style and ICSTOR hasn't changed much in years. Considering it's still working for him, not sure why it's suddenly seen from the peanut gallery that he needs to change, lest he pull a fast one on people (as you clearly insinuate).

You also throw out the characterization of "chaos," then again insinuate that ICSTOR hasn't put up a timeline to meet your expectations - even though he has to meet his (and apparently most of his Patron's) expectations for what's coming soon and then in the next 1-2 installments. Doesn't sound like chaos or dishonesty to me - that noise comes from misleading comments and trolls, IMHO.

These are your words. If you can't live up to them, then I can't help you - only call out nonsense when it adds noise to what I'm reading and seeing.

The problem with patreon is that it makes assholes like this guy see themselves as The Boss of the artists. And, like all capitalist bosses, they see their employees not as people, but as inanimate objects they can squeeze content out of, and they can always get just a little bit more by squeezing even harder. To a Boss, you'll always be a lazy slacker who should be doing more for them. No amount of performance will ever be satisfactory.

If ICSTOR came back and immediately dropped an update, they'd be bitching that he took a break in the first place. If he dropped another update with 1000 renders the very next week, they'd be bitching "Well why can't you do that every day?" If he somehow started dropping an update like that every day, they'd bitch "Well if you weren't so LAZY you could do it twice a day!"

 

[fried]

• I know of his breakdown and I'm considerate about it, heck the world won't end without few swimmers down the drain
• His previous estimates were late July, pushed to August, which again seems too good to be realised
• His previous workload got the better of him but considering he earned a fortune through his patrons, he isn't doing anything exceptional by informing about the status. My point comparing ICSTOR to other devs was that they earn far less yet deliver consistently.
• I admire your loyalty to him but don't expect everyone to align with it. There was a time when MC was the best game of its genre. Not anymore.
• ICSTOR's unfortunate health issues and sloppiness thereafter has left a bad taste in many fans. As I said already, I wish him luck.
• Still can't see what got you riled up? If you're party of his dev team, let him know my views, if not, take a chill pill.

The "bad taste in many fans" excuse means nothing, that's just pushing your prior "chaos" goalpost down the field, with a helping of "honesty" questions.

Just because your argument is full of obvious holes - and keeps meandering with each post (i.e., NOW it's about the accuracy of an estimate or two) - doesn't mean I'm loyal to ICSTOR.

Quite the opposite, I detest poor and/or unfair arguments/assertions in any forum where I'm a member. Otherwise, I have no investment in this game or ICSTOR's Patreon. Heck, this is far from my favorite adult game, even though I admire the technical work.