VN Ren'Py Milfylicious [v0.27] [Maximus]

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Thermophob said:
It's Arabic word, and master of house is man in Arabic society, especially in Islamic context. Anyway, word Harem in European languages, have something different meaning. It means situation where rich and powerful man has multiple wives and concubines (lesser wives). It was, by analogy with Ottoman Sultan, applied to non-Islamic rulers, like Chinese Emperors, Korean Kings etc. Essentially its synonymous with polyginy (single man is husband to multiple wives).
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I'm not saying you are wrong about the predominant usage. Nevertheless. The word "harim" means a room where female servants, concubines and/or wives and eunuchs (castrated males) are quartered - nothing more, nothing less. The word for the occupants themselves is "harimi". It literally means the people who live in a "harim".

The harem's origins date back to the Assyrian and Babylonian empires and therefore predate "Arabic society". In pre-Islamic Assyria, Persia, and Egypt harems also, often, included eunuchs. There are, in fact, a number of examples of female-owned harems, referred to as a female harem or seraglios. Cleopatra was a prime example.

I point all of this out simply because I believe that when a person says something "can't be this" or "can't be that" - they should know what they are talking about.
 
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motseer said:
The harem's origins date back to the Assyrian and Babylonian empires and therefore predate "Arabic society".
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Yes, and those were also rigid patriarchal societies, similar to Islamic-Arabic ones, which replaced them.
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referred to as a female harem or seraglios
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Seraglio is literally name of Ottoman Sultan's palace in Italian. Later, it was used as synonym for his harem, or any large harem.

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pre-Islamic Assyria, Persia, and Egypt harems also, often, included eunuchs
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Eunuch's were always parts of courts, and harems. Even Christian states had powerful eunuch ministers (Norman Sicily, Eastern Roman/Byzantine Empire). They were trusted because they couldn't form family and hence dynasty. When it comes to harems, they were there for two functions, first to personally attend master of house, and to do hard work. Since they were castrated, master of house didn't feel treathened.
 
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Thermophob said:
Yes, and those were also rigid patriarchal societies, similar to Islamic-Arabic ones, which replaced them.

Seraglio is literally name of Ottoman Sultan's palace in Italian. Later, it was used as synonym for his harem, or any large harem.


Eunuch's were always parts of courts, and harems. Even Christian states had powerful eunuch ministers (Norman Sicily, Eastern Roman/Byzantine Empire). They were trusted because they couldn't form family and hence dynasty. When it comes to harems, they were there for two functions, first to personally attend master of house, and to do hard work. Since they were castrated, master of house didn't feel treathened.
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All good points. You are obviously quite knowledgeable on the subject of harems. All of this, btw, supports my point. For example, when someone demands that a harem member can't possibly be a lesbian - I say, they should look the word up before making erroneous claims. That's what "wordbenders" do - make up meanings. Say it often, say it loud, make it true. That's their motto. I take exception.
 
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For example, when someone demands that a harem member can't possibly be a lesbian - I say, they should look the word up before making erroneous claims. That's what "wordbenders" do - make up meanings. Say it often, say it loud, make it true. That's their motto. I take exception.
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Woman in harem could be lesbian. At least situational, something like in modern prisons. Rulers first and foremost had obligations to official wives, and then to their favourites. Most of sexual attention went towards that two categories of women, so some found sexual release in playing with each other. Did they saw themselves as lesbian? most probably not, but it's to wide topic anyway. Suffice to say, you are right. There are lesbians in harems (and I mean in classical meaning of it, one rich man with multiple wives).
On other hand, I partially understand complaints that trope with bunch of lustful bisexual women attached to male MC and eachother is tad bit overused in porn games. Developers need to be careful with using it, like any other trope.
 
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Thermophob said:
Woman in harem could be lesbian. At least situational, something like in modern prisons. Rulers first and foremost had obligations to official wives, and then to their favourites. Most of sexual attention went towards that two categories of women, so some found sexual release in playing with each other. Did they saw themselves as lesbian? most probably not, but it's to wide topic anyway. Suffice to say, you are right. There are lesbians in harems (and I mean in classical meaning of it, one rich man with multiple wives).
On other hand, I partially understand complaints that trope with bunch of lustful bisexual women attached to male MC and eachother is tad bit overused in porn games. Developers need to be careful with using it, like any other trope.
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Of course. Again you made excellent points. Still, for me, there isn't an excuse for continuous rants about lesbian or bisexual behavior the instant it appears in a story. For that matter, if a dev wants to write about a true harem with a eunuch who is sweet on one (or more) of the servant girls, there shouldn't be an instant cacophony asserting the sin of NTR. Heaven forbid (well... actually, it might) there could be gay eunuchs in a harem as well. I'm sure you understand. Kink shaming is another of my pet peeves. Jus' sayin'.

I will just add - it has been nice discussing with someone who reasons and comments, rather than rants and declares that theirs is the only right way.
 
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Love the women, clothes and renders. Sex needs to find a second gear. For now I'll write it off as the MC's inexperience in the situation he just found himself in. I feel like a more dominate trait will have to show up at some time. He does rule the empire.

Need a little more story for flavor. Yes it is a porn game, but going from one scene to the next without some type of story, hurts the game.
 
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Incredibly high-quality content, such games as diamonds among a pile of garbage. I hope the game will continue to develop and will not be abandoned, as it happened with many good games. I wish the author good luck with his brainchild, I hope he will often delight fans of his work, and of course more patrons to him on Patreon, such content deserves a decent reward.(y)
 
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Totally agree, but then this would be an AVN and not a game.

With AVN you can distance yourself a bit and just go along with it, including all the moments you'd disagree with, LI's you dislike, because YOU aren't playing, you're just watching.

But when you're asked to name the MC you're invested. Shown options? Now YOU are deciding the story somewhat. Then when it turns out the options are meaningless and you've no actual choice? Let down.
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I couldn't agree more with what you said. Started the game, came to first choice and it's just faster/change angle/next. And I'm like why is this even a game then. Maybe I'm spoiled but this is really a let down.
 
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Just found the game and i am up to date.

You are doing an amazing job, definitely this is one of my favorites right now .
The renders, all the female designs, the music and the animation are top notch.
Also having the option to select the outfit for one of these bombshells ? (Gwen scene) damn that was Hot

I dont have any complains so far, but i would like more angles during the scenes because this one deserves it, also more scenes with the women using lingerie would be pretty hot, like the first scene with Lisa and Linda, more femdom ( not that hardcore stuff with humilitation) but more hot femdom when they take the lead and they are on top.

Keep it up with the good work, cheers.
 
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This game has girls that are in their own right strong, beautiful, fantastic to anyone
from the outside looking in.
MC is accepting their guidance as they each control and manage
a portion of MC”life and business.
This in turn means there is actual character development and actual
understanding between them as to the control they have over MC,
making sure MC holds his part of the bargain to the teeth, forwards and protects their way of life,
while they ensure their work is priceless and important both to them and to MC.

Looking at modern day kings and harems,
me thinks nobody wants royal harems
Thailand's King Vajiralongkorn
The ruler has the harem, that is the forever definition of harem, it fits cleopatra.
Thailand's secretive, playboy king has a history of jailing people who insult him.

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This is how it has to be if we are talking of power dynamic that makes the harem.
This game makes the harem a way of life for the women, something they believe in,
something they hold sacred, they will defend it and MC will be their scion in ensuring
their way of life prospers and gives them everything they wish from it.

People having many wifes comes down to ensuring a way of life for the women,
they relinquish control in some aspects of life and gain confidence in others.


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