Unity Completed Monster Black Market [v2.0.16.0 DLC] [Team-Apple Pie]

[flannan]

Yeah, I noticed that this change only affects base slave races to spawn with their original multi-color versions, but their kids will have "Standard" CB's color scheme. Same for "Special" added races, they all comes with their base CB colors. That's standard behavior.
If it doesn't crash or hang game later in-game, I think that'll be a compromise for this custom version.

As for birth rate... no idea. I didn't change that part, I think. But I did revert slave kids to spawn without grown tits (they are all flats until you give them milk, like in base game).

About more serious problems, the market sometimes spawns women with "flat" chest, but the corresponding assets are not in the mod pack. I guess they must be in Tits mod. It looks funny when they're standing or having sex with a goblin, and causes their torso to disappear when in tentacle room.

Random names mod applies only to market-generated humans, while humans born in establishment don't get names. I don't remember if it was the same in previous version of Complex Breeding.

And yes, the slave birth rate seems to be about 50-50, while it was much lower (and more complicated) in previous versions of CB. Now my establishment is full of slaves, and I'm not getting enough goblins to sell. Well, there are other ways to make money in CB, so it's not a problem.

Im kinda slow, so are we stuck with type A skin color?

Store-bought slaves have a variety of colors like in vanilla game. Establishment-bred slaves (including all the races not available on the market) have only their race's fixed color.

 

[Krongorka]

Im kinda slow, so are we stuck with type A skin color?

It's a value type which is always set to "Type A" in Complex Breeding, special races use their own custom skin color scheme. So female goblin will be always green, redcap will be red and so on.
This edit allows to spawn regular slave types with multiple skin colors, like base game does.

flannan
Changes for this CB are designed to work with Tits mod, yeah. I've set up most races to come with Sizes 0-1-2 (Flat-Small-Average). Naming for slaves was like that in the version of CB I've been using so far. By the way, do you perhaps have CB version 0.5.18? My changes are based on the older one 0.5.17.

 

[Superior_keyaru]

Im kinda slow, so are we stuck with type A skin color?

From what I see, complex breeding is more of a hindrance than a help. Wouldn't making a new mod exactly like CB but with everything you need? Don't mind me, I don't know anything about coding im just trying to help from the little i know and also that would take months to make.

 

[Krongorka]

From what I see, complex breeding is more of a hindrance than a help. Wouldn't making a new mod exactly like CB but with everything you need? Don't mind me, I don't know anything about coding im just trying to help from the little i know and also that would take months to make.

Essences mechanic is very cool when you figure it out. Main problem of CB is that you don't have enough time, but to change day time base value you basically need to change main data archive, not in small .dll like these mods.

It's also a closed source mod, so I only make edits in it using dnspy tool.

flannan
I can make additional balancing for this mod later, but I'll need certain suggestion for that. Like: Races and their conception rates/milk price values.

For example, these are base Human CB 0.5.17 values:

this.MilkQuality = 200;
this.MilkProductionRate = 0.8f;
this.MaxMilkSizeChange = 1f;
this.ConceptionRate = 50;
this.MaxHealth = 120;
this.GrowthTime = 90;
this.MaxBirthCount = 8;
this.Maintenance = 120;
this.DecreasingMentalityOnPregnant = 0.4f;

 

[flannan]

flannan
Changes for this CB are designed to work with Tits mod, yeah. I've set up most races to come with Sizes 0-1-2 (Flat-Small-Average). Naming for slaves was like that in the version of CB I've been using so far. By the way, do you perhaps have CB version 0.5.18? My changes are based on the older one 0.5.17.

I mostly played version 0.5.17, the one in the modpack.
I guess I would need to add Tits mod to this installation of CB. Do I need "CB with Tits" mod? Or is it already included?

Another thing I've noticed during testing, is that test version of CB does not indicate changes of a slave's milk value due to essences (like magic or demonic) when you hover over them. I did not test if the actual value changes too, as I am not sure how to do that. Differences in base value due to race are properly displayed (humans have 200, goblins have 50).

flannan
I can make additional balancing for this mod later, but I'll need certain suggestion for that. Like: Races and their conception rates/milk price values.

I will need to think about it.
But for now, other people can join me in thinking with

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where I listed most of their values.
As it is, there are races with clear advantage in some role, and races that seem to be failures from improper management of establishment, such as dark elves and horses. And I guess undead races can be considered failures too.

From what I see, complex breeding is more of a hindrance than a help. Wouldn't making a new mod exactly like CB but with everything you need? Don't mind me, I don't know anything about coding im just trying to help from the little i know and also that would take months to make.

Complex Breeding is an overhaul mod that changes major parts of the game. It is not everyone's cup of tea, even with a simplifying mod "CB for Dummies".
But many people dig having a lot of races and an evolution tree.

 

[Krongorka]

I mostly played version 0.5.17, the one in the modpack.
I guess I would need to add Tits mod to this installation of CB. Do I need "CB with Tits" mod? Or is it already included?

Another thing I've noticed during testing, is that test version of CB does not indicate changes of a slave's milk value due to essences (like magic or demonic) when you hover over them. I did not test if the actual value changes too, as I am not sure how to do that. Differences in base value due to race are properly displayed (humans have 200, goblins have 50).


I will need to think about it.
But for now, other people can join me in thinking with

You must be registered to see the links

where I listed most of their values.
As it is, there are races with clear advantage in some role, and races that seem to be failures from improper management of establishment, such as dark elves and horses. And I guess undead races can be considered failures too.


Complex Breeding is an overhaul mod that changes major parts of the game. It is not everyone's cup of tea, even with a simplifying mod "CB for Dummies".
But many people dig having a lot of races and an evolution tree.

CB with Tits is a mandatory plugin for Tits mod to work with CB at all.

I bookmarked that table. I can also send you all base hardcoded values for all available races later in PM.
One change in current edit is to allow Eternal essence slaves to have human kids from Salamander. It's made to encourage Tentacle's Taint mechanic, which gives slave +1 Eternal essence, which you can use on essence-less slaves, especially Golems.

Any other Essence properties/their relation to milk values should be the same as in 0.5.17 CB, since I didn't change anything else.

 

[unreasonableaccount]

Hey so I posted this on Complex Breeding Mod page : https://f95zone.to/threads/monster-black-market-complex-breeding-for-dummies-mod.162687/
but did not get a response likely due to the mod no longer being updated.

how do i improve demonic stats? I'm endgame and I want to buy with higher stats that not in the decimals or negatives. When I adjusted stats in the Config it adjustred all stats except Demonic. Any ideas?

Also anyway to have Eternal not be absurdly high? or is it just a side effect of messing with the stats?

Addendum: I use the modpack which includes CB for Dummies, and the Config menu mod. Adjusting every modifier does not seem to affect demonic.

 

[Superior_keyaru]

Essences mechanic is very cool when you figure it out. Main problem of CB is that you don't have enough time, but to change day time base value you basically need to change main data archive, not in small .dll like these mods.

It's also a closed source mod, so I only make edits in it using dnspy tool.

flannan
I can make additional balancing for this mod later, but I'll need certain suggestion for that. Like: Races and their conception rates/milk price values.

For example, these are base Human CB 0.5.17 values:

this.MilkQuality = 200;
this.MilkProductionRate = 0.8f;
this.MaxMilkSizeChange = 1f;
this.ConceptionRate = 50;
this.MaxHealth = 120;
this.GrowthTime = 90;
this.MaxBirthCount = 8;
this.Maintenance = 120;
this.DecreasingMentalityOnPregnant = 0.4f;

Ok now i get it, you dont actually overwrite the mod, just change values and add some stuff to the base mod, thats it? Or im wrong? Btw when i was playing i noticed that the price after and before i installed the wip build are crazy different, like a slave used to cost even 60 gold and now base price its 500, did you change it?

 

[flannan]

Ok now i get it, you dont actually overwrite the mod, just change values and add some stuff to the base mod, thats it? Or im wrong? Btw when i was playing i noticed that the price after and before i installed the wip build are crazy different, like a slave used to cost even 60 gold and now base price its 500, did you change it?

Note that prices depend on the difficulty level and on the slave's profession and race. A princess can easily cost 20000.

 

[Superior_keyaru]

Note that prices depend on the difficulty level and on the slave's profession and race. A princess can easily cost 20000.

I like it adds some difficulty to the game

 

[Superior_keyaru]

CB with Tits is a mandatory plugin for Tits mod to work with CB at all.

I bookmarked that table. I can also send you all base hardcoded values for all available races later in PM.
One change in current edit is to allow Eternal essence slaves to have human kids from Salamander. It's made to encourage Tentacle's Taint mechanic, which gives slave +1 Eternal essence, which you can use on essence-less slaves, especially Golems.

Any other Essence properties/their relation to milk values should be the same as in 0.5.17 CB, since I didn't change anything else.

Maybe im asking too much but is it possible to add when incest happens and a baby its born he gets a HP debuff or something like that. can be added on a higher difficulty

 

[PootisPenser76]

Yeah, I think I know the reason for that. There should be a control script in CB which only allows certain Tits size on a selected race to appear. I might be able to increase that pool size to lower sizes, but not sure if it'll work for now.
If my solution will work somehow, I do plan to give starting races limited sizes starting with Flat. So on market you'll have: Flat - Small - Average breast slaves. I'm not a fan of limiting stuff like this, but it will make user to actually breed for bigger sizes.
Since Cosmetic Potion will be unlocked on slaves - as soon as you open a brothel that won't be an issue anyway.

PootisPenser76
In the base game there's room upgrades from Barbara which can cure STDs when slave stays in a room for a set amount of time or you can buy potions which cures it at the end of the day (random drop). You can also create that potion with Niel, but you'll need to dismantle infected Slave/Monster for that first with Flora to get special infection DNA.

Who is Barbara sorry? I am currently on day 13

 

[flannan]

Maybe im asking too much but is it possible to add when incest happens and a baby its born he gets a HP debuff or something like that. can be added on a higher difficulty

That would be troublesome. The main way the game is played is by super-incest.

Who is Barbara sorry? I am currently on day 13

The blacksmith colleague. A blonde tanned dwarf.
Niel is an alchemist, an eternal loli green draconian.
Flora is... well, I'm not sure what she is, but she's in charge of dismantling people and making pixies. She is a purple-haired elf.

 

[Krongorka]

Maybe im asking too much but is it possible to add when incest happens and a baby its born he gets a HP debuff or something like that. can be added on a higher difficulty

No, probably not possible. Not by me at least. I do recall that CB actually removed one random debuff: a miscarriage chance from Minotaurs.
Like flannan mentioned, CB is very incest-oriented by design. CB just greatly lowers a chance and speed of making "Super breeders". Developer's next game "ProjectR" may introduce something like that (or maybe not).

 

[Superior_keyaru]

No, probably not possible. Not by me at least. I do recall that CB actually removed one random debuff: a miscarriage chance from Minotaurs.
Like flannan mentioned, CB is very incest-oriented by design. CB just greatly lowers a chance and speed of making "Super breeders". Developer's next game "ProjectR" may introduce something like that (or maybe not).

are you going to work on projectR too? Btw can i have the next "stable" version of the mod? I do like the flat young girls concept being reverted (i dont want to start being annoying so its ok if u dont send it)

 

[Krongorka]

are you going to work on projectR too? Btw can i have the next "stable" version of the mod? I do like the flat young girls concept being reverted (i dont want to start being annoying so its ok if u dont send it)

Sure, get Assembly-Csharp.dll file from this post and put in game's data/Managed folder. It's the current test one with reverted flat girls.

 

[Superior_keyaru]

Sure, get Assembly-Csharp.dll file from this post and put in game's data/Managed folder. It's the current test one with reverted flat girls.

thx il make u know if i find some issues and stuff

 

[PootisPenser76]

Hey guys how do I resurrect my slaves when I already have unlocked the Succubus? I have 666 essence by the way but can't find the resurrect button?

 

[Superior_keyaru]

Sure, get Assembly-Csharp.dll file from this post and put in game's data/Managed folder. It's the current test one with reverted flat girls.

something i notice its that the white thing around the goblin model its different from the slave, i remember seing both with the white aura,it being removed looks bad when zooming out idk if its a change or something but i cant unsee it ( i know its not an aura but i dont know how to call it(sorry for bad quality))

 

[Superior_keyaru]

Hey guys how do I resurrect my slaves when I already have unlocked the Succubus? I have 666 essence by the way but can't find the resurrect button?

click on the corpse and then resurrect