Unity Completed Monster Black Market [v2.0.16.0 DLC] [Team-Apple Pie]

[Superior_keyaru]

something i notice its that the white thing around the goblin model its different from the slave, i remember seing both with the white aura,it being removed looks bad when zooming out idk if its a change or something but i cant unsee it ( i know its not an aura but i dont know how to call it(sorry for bad quiality)) View attachment 4143085 View attachment 4143086

maybe im just crazy but i remember both having the white thing when sex happend

 

[PootisPenser76]

Hey guys thank you for answering my previous questions and I hope I am not bothering anyone but there are 2 things I need help with:

1- No more condoms available in the market (I don't want to risk my slaves catching STDs!)
2- I have Niel the dragon but I don't know how to provide her with the DNA and the other stuff she needs!

Please help?

 

[Krongorka]

something i notice its that the white thing around the goblin model its different from the slave, i remember seing both with the white aura,it being removed looks bad when zooming out idk if its a change or something but i cant unsee it ( i know its not an aura but i dont know how to call it(sorry for bad quality)) View attachment 4143085 View attachment 4143086 View attachment 4143085 View attachment 4143086

You mean character's outline, perhaps? Also current Tits V2 have mipmaps broken by default, that's why artifacting is happening. Will be fixed in the next version (smoother sprites when zoomed out) but outline will be removed for all characters completely.

 

[flannan]

Hey guys thank you for answering my previous questions and I hope I am not bothering anyone but there are 2 things I need help with:

1- No more condoms available in the market (I don't want to risk my slaves catching STDs!)
2- I have Niel the dragon but I don't know how to provide her with the DNA and the other stuff she needs!

Please help?

1 - use the last upgrade for the brothel. You might need to scroll down.
2 - Potion ingredients are byproducts of dismantling. DNA is also a byproduct of dismantling, but it only starts to drop when you recruit Niel. Niel pretty much can't do anything without Flora.
Don't worry, you don't actually need any of Niel's products before you unlock all of the colleagues.

 

[valkfanta]

It always amazes me to see the dedication of the community of this game. Amazing mods! I'm sometimes suprised why some of you guys don't make your own game.

 

[flannan]

It always amazes me to see the dedication of the community of this game. Amazing mods! I'm sometimes suprised why some of you guys don't make your own game.

Making your own game requires an unusual combination of talents and abilities. At the very least, you need to be your own programmer, artist and game designer.
And if you invite other people, that's not your own game anymore. You effectively add "getting along with other people" to the skill list the game-maker needs to have. And it's a difficult skill for people who spend a lot of their time on porn sites.
Yeah. That's why ready-made game engines like Renpy and RPGM are popular. And why AI CG is popular, despite all the hatred from the consumers. But you still need your own game design.

 

[valkfanta]

Making your own game requires an unusual combination of talents and abilities. At the very least, you need to be your own programmer, artist and game designer.
And if you invite other people, that's not your own game anymore. You effectively add "getting along with other people" to the skill list the game-maker needs to have. And it's a difficult skill for people who spend a lot of their time on porn sites.
Yeah. That's why ready-made game engines like Renpy and RPGM are popular. And why AI CG is popular, despite all the hatred from the consumers. But you still need your own game design.

I guess you are right. It might be hard to aquire all skills to do it all by yourself. I haven't really tought about the communication part. The mods inspired me to make my own game and i maybe viewed it to much from my perspective. (i can program and draw)

 

[Krongorka]

It always amazes me to see the dedication of the community of this game. Amazing mods! I'm sometimes suprised why some of you guys don't make your own game.

I have a very specific set of skills, but it only works on editing someone's else work. Self-taught amateur level in programming and art (Spine editor). Once I learn how stuff works I usually edit it to my liking. MBM just so happens to be relatively "easy" to edit for me.
I have to admit that non-optimized game's asset made with Spine practically hammers CPU and it works significantly worse than it should.



Currently it's something more than just graphics editing and more of making a performance patch, so that piqued my interest greatly.

 

[valkfanta]

I have a very specific set of skills, but it only works on editing someone's else work. Self-taught amateur level in programming and art (Spine editor). Once I learn how stuff works I usually edit it to my liking. MBM just so happens to be relatively "easy" to edit for me.
I have to admit that non-optimized game's asset made with Spine practically hammers CPU and it works significantly worse than it should.

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Currently it's something more than just graphics editing and more of making a performance patch, so that piqued my interest greatly.

yeah performance killed my whole first game idea. Your mod made me do some stupid shit, like writing a whole fucking software to manipulate height and various other variables of the character. Worked really good until i ported it to the game. Couldn't manage more than 20 character at the same time. Now i swapped to pixel art.

 

[Krongorka]

yeah performance killed my whole first game idea. Your mod made me do some stupid shit, like writing a whole fucking software to manipulate height and various other variables of the character. Worked really good until i ported it to the game. Couldn't manage more than 20 character at the same time. Now i swapped to pixel art.

Huh, that's too bad, I do remember it looked promising. I actually found out about Spine's performance degradation when I made similar mod for ProjectR but it also had several Clipping Meshes implemented for hiding hair sprites under the cloth sprites. Several of these kills performance on CPU like Ryzen 5800X with just 5-6 characters on screen.
Imagine my surprise when I found that 1 NPC (Rune in MBM) have 13 Clipping Meshes (simply hiding her tail behind an altar she's sitting on)... just for that character alone. No wonder game lags more the more you play.

 

[valkfanta]

Huh, that's too bad, I do remember it looked promising. I actually found out about Spine's performance degradation when I made similar mod for ProjectR but it also had several Clipping Meshes implemented for hiding hair sprites under the cloth sprites. Several of these kills performance on CPU like Ryzen 5800X with just 5-6 characters on screen.
Imagine my surprise when I found that 1 NPC (Rune in MBM) have 13 Clipping Meshes (simply hiding her tail behind an altar she's sitting on)... just for that character alone. No wonder game lags more the more you play.

Yes. Unfortunately i couldn't make it work. But here is some of the stuff i was aiming for.

 

[Superior_keyaru]

Huh, that's too bad, I do remember it looked promising. I actually found out about Spine's performance degradation when I made similar mod for ProjectR but it also had several Clipping Meshes implemented for hiding hair sprites under the cloth sprites. Several of these kills performance on CPU like Ryzen 5800X with just 5-6 characters on screen.
Imagine my surprise when I found that 1 NPC (Rune in MBM) have 13 Clipping Meshes (simply hiding her tail behind an altar she's sitting on)... just for that character alone. No wonder game lags more the more you play.

To be honest im so hyped for the v3 of the mod in terms of % how much its done? Like a 10% 20% 50%!!? I just want to know so i can sleep well, i tried to sleep but for some reason the hype for your mod makes me too excited

 

[Krongorka]

To be honest im so hyped for the v3 of the mod in terms of % how much its done? Like a 10% 20% 50%!!? I just want to know so i can sleep well, i tried to sleep but for some reason the hype for your mod makes me too excited

I can't tell any estimates, since it depends on the time I'm able to work on this project. Last time I joked about V3 release, mod development was postponed for a year due to technical issues with it. I also like the phrase "When it's done".

Actual joke about V3 release is that I called it "V3 Forever" in 2023 after V2 release:


As for goblin females you asked, current CB's edit works like this:
Base races on market comes with Tits sizes: Flat - Small - Average. Hint: Sheep (Hitsuji) can spawn with Big size (4 sizes for them in total for them).
So when you start to breed females with Demonic essence there's a chance Goblin female will be born, but it will have mother's tits size.
CB have 2 additional mechanics regarding to breast size change and womb size change during impregnation-births:
- Tits size for offsprings can increase or decrease randomly.
- Womb size for mothers can increase with following birth numbers:
Starting with 4 births (small to average), 7 births (average to big), 10 births (big to huge), 13 births (huge to enormous).

 

[Superior_keyaru]

I can't tell any estimates, since it depends on the time I'm able to work on this project. Last time I joked about V3 release, mod development was postponed development for a year due to technical issues with it. I also like the phrase "When it's done".

Actual joke about V3 release is that I called it "V3 Forever" in 2023 after V2 release:
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As for goblin females you asked, current CB's edit works like this:
Base races on market comes with Tits sizes: Flat - Small - Average. Hint: Sheep (Hitsuji) can spawn with Big size (4 sizes for them in total for them).
So when you start to breed females with Demonic essence there's a chance Goblin female will be born, but it will have mother's tits size.
CB have 2 additional mechanics regarding to breast size change and womb size change during impregnation-births:
- Tits size for offsprings can increase or decrease randomly.
- Womb size for mothers can increase with following birth numbers:
Starting with 4 births (small to average), 7 births (average to big), 10 births (big to huge), 13 births (huge to enormous).

thx for everything i love you man

 

[dustbeen43]

flannan
In the meantime, can anyone help me with testing modified Complex Breeding? There's one specific change which requires to start new game since it ignores specific racial skin colors. Base game have several skin colors for each base race, but CB set it to a fixed one.
Basically, if you want to test it: grab modified ComplexBreeding.dll, put in BepInEx/patches and play the game with fresh start. Try to breed special CB races and see how it reacts and if game hangs at some point/become unresponsive to input.

Main concern is that it breaks special race colors, which won't allow to differentiate them. If it only affects base races and other races behave as usual, that's great. If not, well, I'll leave it as it is.

But again: this test version requires starting new game!

I've tested and at day 43 pixies stopped working. In the console I have every seconds (depending on the game speed) this message in loop :

[Error : Unity Log] IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array.
Stack trace:
MBMScripts.Character.get_MaxMilk () (at <a4434b4d1450482d9e458ee8dfcd1930>:0)
MBMScripts.Character.set_Milk (System.Single value) (at <a4434b4d1450482d9e458ee8dfcd1930>:0)
MBMScripts.Female.OnTickUpdate (System.Single tickTime) (at <a4434b4d1450482d9e458ee8dfcd1930>:0)
MBMScripts.PlayData.UnitTickUpdate (System.Single tickTime) (at <a4434b4d1450482d9e458ee8dfcd1930>:0)
MBMScripts.PlayData.TickUpdate (System.Single tickTime) (at <a4434b4d1450482d9e458ee8dfcd1930>:0)
MBMScripts.PlayerController.FixedUpdate () (at <a4434b4d1450482d9e458ee8dfcd1930>:0)

It's around this day that I finally have several races (hobgoblin, redcap, humans) with "Extra" breats size and "Enormous" womb size thanks to tentacles.

One human female (level 5 breats, level 5 womb) has one child (on the 4 she had with the same birth) that has breats size without size :



The game is still playable (without pixies) but if you select the slave with the issue, the game froze and stop working. I had to ALT+F4 to close it.

Hope it helps because I love what you do on this game with modding and If I can help you in any way let me know.

 

[Krongorka]

I've tested and at day 43 pixies stopped working. In the console I have every seconds (depending on the game speed) this message in loop :

[Error : Unity Log] IndexOutOfRangeException: Index was outside the bounds of the array.
Stack trace:
MBMScripts.Character.get_MaxMilk () (at <a4434b4d1450482d9e458ee8dfcd1930>:0)
MBMScripts.Character.set_Milk (System.Single value) (at <a4434b4d1450482d9e458ee8dfcd1930>:0)
MBMScripts.Female.OnTickUpdate (System.Single tickTime) (at <a4434b4d1450482d9e458ee8dfcd1930>:0)
MBMScripts.PlayData.UnitTickUpdate (System.Single tickTime) (at <a4434b4d1450482d9e458ee8dfcd1930>:0)
MBMScripts.PlayData.TickUpdate (System.Single tickTime) (at <a4434b4d1450482d9e458ee8dfcd1930>:0)
MBMScripts.PlayerController.FixedUpdate () (at <a4434b4d1450482d9e458ee8dfcd1930>:0)

It's around this day that I finally have several races (hobgoblin, redcap, humans) with "Extra" breats size and "Enormous" womb size thanks to tentacles.

One human female (level 5 breats, level 5 womb) has one child (on the 4 she had with the same birth) that has breats size without size :

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The game is still playable (without pixies) but if you select the slave with the issue, the game froze and stop working. I had to ALT+F4 to close it.

Hope it helps because I love what you do on this game with modding and If I can help you in any way let me know.

Pixies kinda stop working for me with CB always. Probably should disable and remove any additional functionality changes made for them to work like they do in base game. Like, any mod that changes them also breaks them. I also never changed their code because of it.
Girl without breast size, though... that's very weird and it shouldn't be tied to color changes either.

PS: Actually, if you have a save file where I can trigger that particular slave to appear on my end, maybe I can figure out what happened exactly.

There's also one thing to keep in mind is that you need to have same Assembly file version and same data version as I have. And that's practically the only way to guarantee we don't expect various errors like that. After all, it's a limited case test for now.

 

[dustbeen43]

PS: Actually, if you have a save file where I can trigger that particular slave to appear on my end, maybe I can figure out what happened exactly.

I can give you the save file where the slave is already there but I can't give you the save where she will appear sorry ^^

 

[flannan]

One human female (level 5 breats, level 5 womb) has one child (on the 4 she had with the same birth) that has breats size without size :

View attachment 4144811

The game is still playable (without pixies) but if you select the slave with the issue, the game froze and stop working. I had to ALT+F4 to close it.

From the looks of it, the breast size should be "flat". But from the milk limit, it should be some very big size instead. Maybe she mutated to have breasts bigger than the limit?

 

[Krongorka]

From the looks of it, the breast size should be "flat". But from the milk limit, it should be some very big size instead. Maybe she mutated to have breasts bigger than the limit?

That's what I was thinking about, but 2000 is the default value for Extra size which I did set for the base game. Essences can influence that number much higher - Minotaurs can have as high as 7000 milk (maxed Feral 10 and Elemental 10 essences), if I remember correctly.

And yeah, I think that save would be useful for me.

 

[dustbeen43]

And yeah, I think that save would be useful for me.

Check your PM.