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I attached edited Complex Breeding .dll in my post above. You can try it and see if it works on your end. Future V3 will depend heavily on these changes to make customization and gameplay changes more effective.
Yeah, I do it for free. But I'm a single modder and unfortunately I can only work on it in my spare time. No need for donations.
I made several breakthroughs for it just recently (meaning between V2 and current progress for V3 there was a year of halted modding progress and I continued to work on it about two weeks ago), so there's still lots of stuff to do before new release.
it kinda works, it does add the stuff i asked for but the extra size and flat doesnt appear on the market, thats one thing i noticed
 

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it kinda works, it does add the stuff i asked for but the extra size and flat doesnt appear on the market, thats one thing i noticed
Yeah, I think I know the reason for that. There should be a control script in CB which only allows certain Tits size on a selected race to appear. I might be able to increase that pool size to lower sizes, but not sure if it'll work for now.
If my solution will work somehow, I do plan to give starting races limited sizes starting with Flat. So on market you'll have: Flat - Small - Average breast slaves. I'm not a fan of limiting stuff like this, but it will make user to actually breed for bigger sizes.
Since Cosmetic Potion will be unlocked on slaves - as soon as you open a brothel that won't be an issue anyway.

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In the base game there's room upgrades from Barbara which can cure STDs when slave stays in a room for a set amount of time or you can buy potions which cures it at the end of the day (random drop). You can also create that potion with Niel, but you'll need to dismantle infected Slave/Monster for that first with Flora to get special infection DNA.
 
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Hey so I posted this on Complex Breeding Mod page : https://f95zone.to/threads/monster-black-market-complex-breeding-for-dummies-mod.162687/
but did not get a response likely due to the mod no longer being updated.

how do i improve demonic stats? I'm endgame and I want to buy with higher stats that not in the decimals or negatives. When I adjusted stats in the Config it adjustred all stats except Demonic. Any ideas?

Also anyway to have Eternal not be absurdly high? or is it just a side effect of messing with the stats?
That all sounds like side effects of loading base game save with complex breeding mod.
Or maybe using an incompatible mod such as Chaotic Market.
 
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That all sounds like side effects of loading base game save with complex breeding mod.
Or maybe using an incompatible mod such as Chaotic Market.
Chaotic Market is incompatible, huh? I've been testing CB with CM from the modpack and both were active at the same time. Maybe it is the reason why there's sometimes a market slave/monster duplication or essences reset on my end. Other than these 2 random bugs I didn't encounter any issues.
 

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Why is my game like this? I have copy pasted the english 2.0.4 file into my game folder
Please check if your game version is 2.0.0.0

The DLC was not fully completed when this version was released, and importing the DLC will cause related text issues.

You just need to upgrade your game.

This is a comparison between V2.0.0.0 and V2.0.1.6
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That all sounds like side effects of loading base game save with complex breeding mod.
Or maybe using an incompatible mod such as Chaotic Market.
How to breed for larger/smaller breast size? U can do that without using the cosmetic potion? When i gave milk to the young slaves they usually just get the vanilla breast size
 

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Chaotic Market is incompatible, huh? I've been testing CB with CM from the modpack and both were active at the same time. Maybe it is the reason why there's sometimes a market slave/monster duplication or essences reset on my end. Other than these 2 random bugs I didn't encounter any issues.
I mean, Chaotic Market generates random stats intended for the original game, but they are likely to be unsuitable for Complex Breeding.

How to breed for larger/smaller breast size? U can do that without using the cosmetic potion? When i gave milk to the young slaves they usually just get the vanilla breast size
In Complex Breeding?
When breeding, sometimes mutations occur which change breast size.
But you probably don't have the time for that. If so, upgraded tentacle rooms can grain or increase breast size. They aren't quick, but they're much more reliable than waiting for a breast size mutation.

In the vanilla game, I think you need cosmetic potions.
 

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I see, thanks. I didn't saw any other conflicts with it, but probably will turn it off by default for the future releases.

In the meantime, can anyone help me with testing modified Complex Breeding? There's one specific change which requires to start new game since it ignores specific racial skin colors. Base game have several skin colors for each base race, but CB set it to a fixed one.
Basically, if you want to test it: grab modified ComplexBreeding.dll, put in BepInEx/patches and play the game with fresh start. Try to breed special CB races and see how it reacts and if game hangs at some point/become unresponsive to input.

Main concern is that it breaks special race colors, which won't allow to differentiate them. If it only affects base races and other races behave as usual, that's great. If not, well, I'll leave it as it is.

But again: this test version requires starting new game!
 
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I mean, Chaotic Market generates random stats intended for the original game, but they are likely to be unsuitable for Complex Breeding.


In Complex Breeding?
When breeding, sometimes mutations occur which change breast size.
But you probably don't have the time for that. If so, upgraded tentacle rooms can grain or increase breast size. They aren't quick, but they're much more reliable than waiting for a breast size mutation.

In the vanilla game, I think you need cosmetic potions.
Its better to use CB without chaotic market?. I dont know what its the mod that add the new stats traits and jobs, i though it was chaotic market, so how does chaotic market is incompatible with cb? I dont get it cuz im dumb
 
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I see, thanks. I didn't saw any other conflicts with it, but probably will turn it off by default for the future releases.

In the meantime, can anyone help me with testing modified Complex Breeding? There's one specific change which requires to start new game since it ignores specific racial skin colors. Base game have several skin colors for each base race, but CB set it to a fixed one.
Basically, if you want to test it: grab modified ComplexBreeding.dll, put in BepInEx/patches and play the game with fresh start. Try to breed special CB races and see how it reacts and if game hangs at some point/become unresponsive to input.

Main concern is that it breaks special race colors, which won't allow to differentiate them. If it only affects base races and other races behave as usual, that's great. If not, well, I'll leave it as it is.

But again: this test version requires starting new game!
I'l give it a shot when i have some spare time, my first time giving feedback im gonna cry :,)
 

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Its better to use CB without chaotic market?. I dont know what its the mod that add the new stats traits and jobs, i though it was chaotic market, so how does chaotic market is incompatible with cb? I dont get it cuz im dumb
The major changes in the game are done by Complex Breeding.
Chaotic Market makes slaves available on the market more random than in vanilla game.


In the meantime, can anyone help me with testing modified Complex Breeding? There's one specific change which requires to start new game since it ignores specific racial skin colors. Base game have several skin colors for each base race, but CB set it to a fixed one.
Basically, if you want to test it: grab modified ComplexBreeding.dll, put in BepInEx/patches and play the game with fresh start. Try to breed special CB races and see how it reacts and if game hangs at some point/become unresponsive to input.

Main concern is that it breaks special race colors, which won't allow to differentiate them. If it only affects base races and other races behave as usual, that's great. If not, well, I'll leave it as it is.

But again: this test version requires starting new game!
Testing started. I deleted HealthPixyPlus, PixiesInPrivate and RestlessGirls, and disabled all mods except for Random Names and Complex Breeding.
* Not disabling tutorial makes the game stop at the moment when it wanted to introduce my first slave to me. Attempting without tutorial.
* Starting game without tutorial worked.
* A (human) child seems to have a different color from her (human cultist) mother (and from her goblin father). Daughter's skin as "A type" (pale), mother's skin is "B type" (ordinary). Was skin color heritable in the main game?
 
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* Not disabling tutorial makes the game stop at the moment when it wanted to introduce my first slave to me. Attempting without tutorial.
Ah yeah, damn. I remember I did a fix that allows tutorials to play with Complex Breeding. You'll need an updated Assembly file for that as well (Data-Managed). However, that Assembly file is tied with updated Tits mod, so I'm not sure if it'll work on current V2. But you can try that as well.
 
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I see, thanks. I didn't saw any other conflicts with it, but probably will turn it off by default for the future releases.

In the meantime, can anyone help me with testing modified Complex Breeding? There's one specific change which requires to start new game since it ignores specific racial skin colors. Base game have several skin colors for each base race, but CB set it to a fixed one.
Basically, if you want to test it: grab modified ComplexBreeding.dll, put in BepInEx/patches and play the game with fresh start. Try to breed special CB races and see how it reacts and if game hangs at some point/become unresponsive to input.

Main concern is that it breaks special race colors, which won't allow to differentiate them. If it only affects base races and other races behave as usual, that's great. If not, well, I'll leave it as it is.

But again: this test version requires starting new game!
The major changes in the game are done by Complex Breeding.
Chaotic Market makes slaves available on the market more random than in vanilla game.



Testing started. I deleted HealthPixyPlus, PixiesInPrivate and RestlessGirls, and disabled all mods except for Random Names and Complex Breeding.
* Not disabling tutorial makes the game stop at the moment when it wanted to introduce my first slave to me. Attempting without tutorial.
Would not it be a good idea to have a discord server to enhance communication?
 

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Ah yeah, damn. I remember I did a fix that allows tutorials to play with Complex Breeding. You'll need an updated Assembly file for that as well (Data-Managed). However, that Assembly file is tied with updated Tits mod, so I'm not sure if it'll work on current V2. But you can try that as well.
I'll put off that test for later.
Starting without tutorial worked, but the rate of birth of slave children is unexpectedly high. Set up for testing purposes?
Anyway, that human mother had 3 daughters do far, and they are all of type A skin color, unlike mother's type B.
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Goblin kid is not hers.
P.S. Goblin kid also grew up with type A skin, but for her, type A is green.
 

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I'll put off that test for later.
Starting without tutorial worked, but the rate of birth of slave children is unexpectedly high. Set up for testing purposes?
Anyway, that human mother had 3 daughters do far, and they are all of type A skin color, unlike mother's type B.
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Goblin kid is not hers.
P.S. Goblin kid also grew up with type A skin, but for her, type A is green.
Yeah, I noticed that this change only affects base slave races to spawn with their original multi-color versions, but their kids will have "Standard" CB's color scheme. Same for "Special" added races, they all comes with their base CB colors. That's standard behavior.
If it doesn't crash or hang game later in-game, I think that'll be a compromise for this custom version.

As for birth rate... no idea. I didn't change that part, I think. But I did revert slave kids to spawn without grown tits (they are all flats until you give them milk, like in base game).
 
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Yeah, I noticed that this change only affects base slave races to spawn with their original multi-color versions, but their kids will have "Standard" CB's color scheme. Same for "Special" added races, they all comes with their base CB colors. That's standard behavior.
If it doesn't crash or hang game later in-game, I think that'll be a compromise for this custom version.

As for birth rate... no idea. I didn't change that part, I think. But I did revert slave kids to spawn without grown tits (they are all flats until you give them milk, like in base game).
The birt thing might be a chaotic market thing, or maybe humans have that because when the baby its a goblin sometimes it also grows slowly
 

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The birt thing might be a chaotic market thing, or maybe humans have that because when the baby its a goblin sometimes it also grows slowly
Slow growth is CB's thing about Essences. High Demonic essence value makes slaves/monsters to growth slow.

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As for "Type A skin" in CB you can pretty much ignore it altogether, since for female slaves it's a hardcoded color value anyway.

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That's how skin colors work in CB. I tried to make an additional color array, but mod ignores additional arrays unfortunately (only use first one).

So, basically, Slaves from Amilia's market are base types which actually takes their base skin values from base game script data. And then you start to breed them and they start to use CB color scheme. A compromise, yeah, but I don't think I'll be able to bypass that at least for now.
 
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Slow growth is CB's thing about Essences. High Demonic essence value makes slaves/monsters to growth slow.

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As for "Type A skin" in CB you can pretty much ignore it altogether, since for female slaves it's a hardcoded color value anyway.

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That's how skin colors work in CB. I tried to make an additional color array, but mod ignores additional arrays unfortunately (only use first one).

So, basically, Slaves from Amilia's market are base types which actually takes their base skin values from base game script data. And then you start to breed them and they start to use CB color scheme. A compromise, yeah, but I don't think I'll be able to bypass that at least for now.
Im kinda slow, so are we stuck with type A skin color?
 

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Yeah, I noticed that this change only affects base slave races to spawn with their original multi-color versions, but their kids will have "Standard" CB's color scheme. Same for "Special" added races, they all comes with their base CB colors. That's standard behavior.
If it doesn't crash or hang game later in-game, I think that'll be a compromise for this custom version.

As for birth rate... no idea. I didn't change that part, I think. But I did revert slave kids to spawn without grown tits (they are all flats until you give them milk, like in base game).
About more serious problems, the market sometimes spawns women with "flat" chest, but the corresponding assets are not in the mod pack. I guess they must be in Tits mod. It looks funny when they're standing or having sex with a goblin, and causes their torso to disappear when in tentacle room.

Random names mod applies only to market-generated humans, while humans born in establishment don't get names. I don't remember if it was the same in previous version of Complex Breeding.

And yes, the slave birth rate seems to be about 50-50, while it was much lower (and more complicated) in previous versions of CB. Now my establishment is full of slaves, and I'm not getting enough goblins to sell. Well, there are other ways to make money in CB, so it's not a problem.

Im kinda slow, so are we stuck with type A skin color?
Store-bought slaves have a variety of colors like in vanilla game. Establishment-bred slaves (including all the races not available on the market) have only their race's fixed color.
 

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Im kinda slow, so are we stuck with type A skin color?
It's a value type which is always set to "Type A" in Complex Breeding, special races use their own custom skin color scheme. So female goblin will be always green, redcap will be red and so on.
This edit allows to spawn regular slave types with multiple skin colors, like base game does.

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Changes for this CB are designed to work with Tits mod, yeah. I've set up most races to come with Sizes 0-1-2 (Flat-Small-Average). Naming for slaves was like that in the version of CB I've been using so far. By the way, do you perhaps have CB version 0.5.18? My changes are based on the older one 0.5.17.
 
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