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Except the "porn part" of these battles, in my opinion (and it seems I need to precise "in my opinion") are not arousing enough to be more than a side note. I've played many games with battlefuck sequences where "X characters fucks Y character in the ass", "X fingers Y", "Y moans in bliss", etc..., and I've never found the text in those sections to be good enough to awake anything in me. It's more a me problem than the game itself, as it's not the only one to do this. But still, it wasn't enough for me to put up with the frustrating gameplay.



If we were talking about the quantity of the content, then I'd agree with you. But a demo is supposed to be a window on what's already done and a teaser of what's promised to be added in the game, in order to entice us into following the development. I'm perfectly fine with a demo not having a lot of content, but if that demo's content isn't good enough to make me excited about what will come next, then it's not a good demo.
If you don't like battlefuck games, don't play them. I thought it's kinda obvious. It's a niche genre, and for what it's worth, this game has a lot of good content for a BF.
 

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If you don't like battlefuck games, don't play them. I thought it's kinda obvious. It's a niche genre, and for what it's worth, this game has a lot of good content for a BF.
He's probably just used to battlefuck games where using a battlefuck technique often comes with an animation of it. Something that a circle like Circle Tekua would do. It's a pretty high standard to set but sometimes that's what it takes for people to get into it.
 

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He's probably just used to battlefuck games where using a battlefuck technique often comes with an animation of it. Something that a circle like Circle Tekua would do. It's a pretty high standard to set but sometimes that's what it takes for people to get into it.
And the other series with the creator who hates westerners Ragnarok online battle fuck.
 

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Which I don't get, since the animations there kinda suck to be honest. Yeah, the models are hot, but the animations are just janky.
Different art style choice, still better animation compared to still images slightly moving or a frame by frame like a lot of cg games are.
 
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Except the "porn part" of these battles, in my opinion
Again, the battles are the porn part. And it seems you're still sticking to a "I didn't find it arousing, so that means it's not good!" mentality, even though the issue was and still is that your description of the gameplay in your review was horribly off, to the point it seemed like you were describing another game entirely.

But a demo is supposed to be a window on what's already done and a teaser of what's promised to be added in the game, in order to entice us into following the development.
You're still basing your analysis purely on what YOUR expectations were for this game, rather than judging it for what it actually is. That's not fair.

Also, saying this game (demo) is bad because it doesn't have a compelling story and thus has nothing to get you excited is honestly pretty laughable. Everyone who actually anticipated this game (read: the established MGE fanbase) got EXACTLY what they wanted out of this demo: getting to meet and fuck some sexy monster girl wives.

I think it's clear that you didn't really get this game, and that's fine... but insisting it's bad despite that is kinda a dick move.
 
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NinjaNamedBob

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You're still basing your analysis purely on what YOUR expectations were for this game, rather than judging it for what it actually is. That's not fair.
User reviews on any platform have always been subjective. Telling someone that the opinion they are giving on something based on their expectations is a bit silly, bud.

Also, saying this game (demo) is bad because it doesn't have a compelling story and thus has nothing to get you excited is honestly pretty laughable. Everyone who actually anticipated this game (read: the established MGE fanbase) got EXACTLY what they wanted out of this demo: getting to meet and fuck some sexy monster girl wives.
MGE is basically what happens when someone sees MGQ, asks themselves if it could be more grimdark and edgy, and then proceeds to put pen to paper not as a joke, but as a serious project. Its concept is neat, but the execution has been laughable since day one. It would work if something implied that Humanity has survived because of legitimate reasons rather than plot, but it never made that attempt. KC himself has whined countless times about the mockery his setting endures, which for any other author would have been motivation enough to improve.

If your bar is so low that all it takes is lewd pictures and a mediocre waifu sim to make you buy something, I would hesitate to criticize anyone's opinion on content in the future if I were in your shoes. You're hard to to take seriously when the content that appeals to the lowest common denominator is your high bar.

I think it's clear that you didn't really get this game, and that's fine... but insisting it's bad despite that is kinda a dick move.
It can be bad in his opinion and still be a mediocre game. I personally played the demo and found nothing that other games simply didn't do better. Lust Grimm does the lust meter better. MGQ:p and Shrift do the waifu sim better. The BF mechanics are, again, a staple for 62studio and thus done better. As much as I want to say that this game is fine for what it is, one can't simply judge it separate from the games it lifts its concepts from. To do so is to ignorantly declare it original and ground-breaking, neither of which it is not. I think telling someone that they're a dick for examining a game through their own lens and with games that do similar things in mind is you being offended because someone has a higher standard for the content they engage with.
 
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MGE is basically what happens when someone sees MGQ, asks themselves if it could be more grimdark and edgy, and then proceeds to put pen to paper not as a joke, but as a serious project. Its concept is neat, but the execution has been laughable since day one. It would work if something implied that Humanity has survived because of legitimate reasons rather than plot, but it never made that attempt. KC himself has whined countless times about the mockery his setting endures, which for any other author would have been motivation enough to improve.
Uh... did you mix up MGQ and MGE? Or are you talking the fridge logic case?
 

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MGE is basically what happens when someone sees MGQ, asks themselves if it could be more grimdark and edgy, and then proceeds to put pen to paper not as a joke, but as a serious project.
What are you even talking about with this line? Even if we ignore the fact that MGE came first by several years, this sounds insane.
MGE is like the least grimdark or edgy monster girl setting, guys find monster girl wives and live happily ever after in a world were (almost) no one ever gets killed by them. MGQ has people getting raped to death and eaten constantly.
 
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Uh... did you mix up MGQ and MGE? Or are you talking the fridge logic case?
I didn't mix anything up. MGQ hints at Humanity barely holding off monsters and that in some regions co-existence has actually been achieved, albeit with a bit of strain from the more fringe groups who hate the other side. Illias Cruz, for example, hate monsters due to a misunderstanding following a battle with the previous monster lord. It's a wholly understandable outcome despite the previous ML's efforts to martyr herself for co-existence.

As an example, MGE would take that premise and ramp up the aggression of both sides to 11, and then take the regions where co-existence has been achieved and warp them into colonies full of brainwashed drones and their monster overlords and then justify those settings as "the natural inevitability of attempting an affront to God in the form of peaceful cooperation." And before you rush to deny that is what KC has written, I actually looked at the setting and content he produced. It is that poorly written.

I would say you can't write this stuff, but KC manages to prove it can, in fact, be written. Not that it ever should have.
 
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What are you even talking about with this line? Even if we ignore the fact that MGE came first by several years, this sounds insane.
MGE is like the least grimdark or edgy monster girl setting, guys find monster girl wives and live happily ever after in a world were (almost) no one ever gets killed by them. MGQ has people getting raped to death and eaten constantly.
You clearly don't know what you're talking about and are basing your information on the demo. Opinion disregarded.
 

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You clearly don't know what you're talking about and are basing your information on the demo. Opinion disregarded.
Nope, I'm basing my information on actually having read the monster profiles KC has been putting out since 2007, nice try.
You just sound like you have some kind of bias against MGE for some inexplicable reason (maybe some MGQ fanboy and can't accept other settings exist?) and have decided to warp the lore to fit your interpretation, I can't think of any other way you'd get this:
MGE would take that premise and ramp up the aggression of both sides to 11, and then take the regions where co-existence has been achieved and warp them into colonies full of brainwashed drones and their monster overlords and then justify those settings as "the natural inevitability of attempting an affront to God in the form of peaceful cooperation."
out of reading MGE. There are definitely some species that have questionable cases of free will amongst their human husbands but stuff like "more aggressive than MGQ" and "monster overlords" is ridiculous.
 
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Nope, I'm basing my information on actually having read the monster profiles KC has been putting out since 2007, nice try.
You just sound like you have some kind of bias against MGE for some inexplicable reason (maybe some MGQ fanboy and can't accept other settings exist?) and have decided to warp the lore to fit your interpretation, I can't think of any other way you'd get this:
Except when stuff like "The Order", "Sabbath", and "The Fallen God" are legitimate factions. The Order is basically the Imperium of Man from 40k down to the "anything not Human is xeno scum" mindset except unlike the Imperium, it's significantly less competent at protecting Humanity. "Sabbath" is basically "lolicons come here" faction whose endgame is basically "when everyone is a lolicon, nobody will be." "The Fallen God" is basically the Horus Heresy faction except for monsters which would be neat, but since the writing is pretty bad to begin with, it results in the execution being fumbled all the way through.

I like the part where you accuse me of being a MGQ fanboy when some of my opinions on here and elsewhere have been that MGQ is fine in both story and execution but nothing amazing, and when I quote stuff like Shrift and Lust Grimm (which are different universes) as being likely inspirations for this game in core mechanics. Heck, the fact that you were so quick in your nerd rage to reply that you didn't even bother to look at my signature to be certain you weren't making a clown of yourself is evidence that your opinion shouldn't be regarded. Consider this daddy's final response.

out of reading MGE. There are definitely some species that have questionable cases of free will amongst their human husbands but stuff like "more aggressive than MGQ" and "monster overlords" is ridiculous.
There are entire factions whose entire schtick is either corruption or enslavement. It even amazes me that "monster lords" and "monster overlords" require a distinction for you to comprehend that they have the same connotation in this universe, but here we effing are. Yes, who do the stuff I stated exist in this universe that you have clearly never read about but will make the same stupid claim of doing and hoping nobody calls you out on it. Consider yourself called out.
 

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Except when stuff like "The Order", "Sabbath", and "The Fallen God" are legitimate factions. The Order is basically the Imperium of Man from 40k down to the "anything not Human is xeno scum" mindset except unlike the Imperium, it's significantly less competent at protecting Humanity. "Sabbath" is basically "lolicons come here" faction whose endgame is basically "when everyone is a lolicon, nobody will be." "The Fallen God" is basically the Horus Heresy faction except for monsters which would be neat, but since the writing is pretty bad to begin with, it results in the execution being fumbled all the way through.

I like the part where you accuse me of being a MGQ fanboy when some of my opinions on here and elsewhere have been that MGQ is fine in both story and execution but nothing amazing, and when I quote stuff like Shrift and Lust Grimm (which are different universes) as being likely inspirations for this game in core mechanics. Heck, the fact that you were so quick in your nerd rage to reply that you didn't even bother to look at my signature to be certain you weren't making a clown of yourself is evidence that your opinion shouldn't be regarded. Consider this daddy's final response.



There are entire factions whose entire schtick is either corruption or enslavement. It even amazes me that "monster lords" and "monster overlords" require a distinction for you to comprehend that they have the same connotation in this universe, but here we effing are. Yes, who do the stuff I stated exist in this universe that you have clearly never read about but will make the same stupid claim of doing and hoping nobody calls you out on it. Consider yourself called out.
And again, how is that "more aggressive than MGQ"? Need I remind you that both sides are all trying to genocide each other in that, other than a few small groups going for coexistence. I'm not arguing the quality of KC writing here, just that you have a really weird bias.

And you think I care enough about you to know what your past opinions on here are?

You really think I'm the one "nerd raging" after that post.
 
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Bob are you even talking about the same MGE as we are?
Are you just trolling or got genuinely butthurt that the hellhound profile says that "human man is a weak, fragile being that they should force into submission as their own male"?
 

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As an example, MGE would take that premise and ramp up the aggression of both sides to 11, and then take the regions where co-existence has been achieved and warp them into colonies full of brainwashed drones and their monster overlords and then justify those settings as "the natural inevitability of attempting an affront to God in the form of peaceful cooperation." And before you rush to deny that is what KC has written, I actually looked at the setting and content he produced. It is that poorly written.

I would say you can't write this stuff, but KC manages to prove it can, in fact, be written. Not that it ever should have.
I'll just leave this here.

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I said something similar to this in the thread in the past but I think the biggest issue with KC's stuff is that they want people to approach their stuff from the perspective of it being a fetish work but it's also trying to be framed in a more serious way where that contradicts a fetish work style reading of it. Like the Fallen Maiden stuff is a good example of this, like you're meant to view it as them becoming "their true selves". But if you aren't approaching that from the perspective of a fetish work then it becomes increasingly hard to not read it as some degree of brainwashing and I feel like that could've been alleviated at least a bit by just using a better framing device and making it so their transformation wasn't due to being pumped full of mana and instead something like their desire for the self-insert reaching a tipping point and reaching some sort of revaluation about their true nature.
 
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User reviews on any platform have always been subjective. Telling someone that the opinion they are giving on something based on their expectations is a bit silly, bud.
I agree with this. Whether the review is positive or negative, or based on bad foundations doesn't matter. Reviews have always been opinions. Not every opinion is well made.

asks themselves if it could be more grimdark and edgy, and then proceeds to put pen to paper not as a joke, but as a serious project
Not even slightly.

It's probably the brightest world ever.
MGQ is grimdark. Monster girls eat each other and humans. Humans are constantly warring and killing monster girls. The angels like this violent status quo and kill people who fight for peace.

MGE on the other hand? Monster Girls are lovestruck idiots who dream of husbands.
The most extreme aspects of the plot are the radicalist like Druella.
And even then, they're honestly not that bad.

The reason monsters don't invade and take over humanity in the setting of MGE is because monster girls cannot give birth to human men, only more monster girls. Monster Girls need human civilization to prosper in order for them to birth human men at the moment. The demon lord is currently making grand magic that can resolve that issue and let monster girls give birth to human men or at least incubus.

Druella however is a radical. Human kingdoms have poverty. They have suffering. They're under a strong religious boot that doesn't let them be sexually honest or chase after their desires. If you're an incubus you're powerful and no longer need food. You can make your own house. Your monster girl wife can support you. If you monsterize as a girl, you're powerful and don't need to hold back to get what you want. Even though Druella's mom isn't done with her grand magic she wants to turn human kingdoms into monster controlled nations. That's what makes her radical.

Honestly? Not that bad. It's stupid. It's shortsighted. But it's also not bad. This isn't grimdark.
I personally played the demo and found nothing that other games simply didn't do better. Lust Grimm does the lust meter better. MGQ:p and Shrift do the waifu sim better. The BF mechanics are, again, a staple for 62studio and thus done better.
No way in heck is this your real opinion. Hell even the Waifu sim aspects are worse in the other ones.
Can you just randomly kiss your girl while walking around?
Can you just randomly get a quickie while exploring?
Does watching other monster girls get frisky make your girl get jealous and want to hop on that dick?

The answer to all of that is no, because MGERPG has a framework for better romance than those games.

You think that boring combat of 62studios games matches the intent and direction of MGERPG? No this game shows MUCH more personality per girl than 62studios games. Not only is there a ton of text per girl but they react differently based on your actions and have skills that are emblematic of their personalities.
 
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