VN Ren'Py My Dorm [v0.18.2 P2 Ch.6] [Trope95]

[xapican]

edit: Jeez, my timing sucks. I just wanted to post a question, I didn't realize the conversations were so heavy :S My bad...also fuck, spoilers. Well it can't be helped...

You can redeem yourself by wiring as much "Apfelkuchen" (apple pie) as you get to RiamMar (he needs power to finish the Mod and UI )

 

[Deleted member 2572880]

not after life worth of shit treatment of her daughter. also who knows the real back story between dad and her. in reality if she would care more than for cash she was pulling off him would announce her self to family. so no cunts dont get any sympathy. Maybe if she would show any regret would be dif story, but it isnt.

I don't quite agree with you. It was her fault that she did that to her daughter. Perhaps this is how she transferred her hatred for Edmund to his daughter. But this cannot deny that she is a tragic figure, because she lost the opportunity to study after giving birth to a daughter, went to a bar to make a hard living, and refused to accept returning to the family, which was stubbornness and punishment for herself. The cause of everything is Emond, so I sympathize with her plight and even want MC to save her instead of despising her to make up for his father's sins.

 

[Deleted member 2572880]

The cause is irrelevant, and honestly in this context reeks of "look what you made me do" a common phrase of abusers.

Scarlett is innocent, what you're saying is that she deserves to be punished for her fathers sins.

No. Mrs. Russell's life might indeed have sucked, and all we have is her word for it and her word is worth dirt, and if so and had she not taken everything out on her daughter then yea, she'd have my sympathy. But she didn't.

Even at the time when she would have been pregnant with Scarlett, there were options, if an abortion wasn't possible she could have given her child up for adoption or into the foster system (yes that system is itself terrible but that's another thing entirely).

As it stands, Mrs. Russell seems to have benefited somewhat heavily from her daughters birth. They seem to be living fairly well without being employed and without having a partner to provide an income. It appears that our father wasn't only giving a minimum amount of finical support, to say nothing of paying for Scarlett's education.

So no. I wish nothing but a lifetime of living nightmares upon Mrs. Russell

Maybe she would have had a better life if she had chosen to return to her parents' home. But she was blinded by hatred. Generally speaking, disabled people are more likely to go to extremes and cannot be judged as ordinary people. Maybe my compassion was too overwhelming, but I felt that helping her might save her.

 

[micmitja]

I don't quite agree with you. It was her fault that she did that to her daughter. Perhaps this is how she transferred her hatred for Edmund to his daughter. But this cannot deny that she is a tragic figure, because she lost the opportunity to study after giving birth to a daughter, went to a bar to make a hard living, and refused to accept returning to the family, which was stubbornness and punishment for herself. The cause of everything is Emond, so I sympathize with her plight and even want MC to save her instead of despising her to make up for his father's sins.

well thats up to you, but way you are saying, screw your pregnant gf
she can rot
lets pity her mom who got all looks of a gold digger, specially when she doesnt want anything to do with her D, probably regret having her. well any potential pity from my part is long gone by now

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she can rot pass this point as far as i am concerned. she would have to beg forgiveness on her knees to even think about her.
and for finish, if you cant get pass one point of your life in 20y, please look for professional help. shes pass that point tho.

 

[xapican]

I sympathize with her plight and even want MC to save her instead of despising her to make up for his father's sins.

You want to fuck her, (which is totally ok, I find her hot too, and so did Edmond a long time ago)
I disagree with you on one point, She had it hard and ugly in the past, all her grudge is understandable to certain extent.
But she didn't asume the part of responsability she had in all that (she let Edmond fuck her) and it is easier to blame all on somebody else than asume your part and move on.
As well she plays the victim card and takes advantage from it, a quite Narcisistic behavior if you ask me.

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[Deleted member 2572880]

Yes we are in total agreement here.
It is a sensitve topic, since it mimics a bit my situation, let's set the scale: not asuming the responsability would be getting lost,
and give a damn about Scarletts alimony and college,
Edmond, at least asumed parenthood and paid alimony, and secured her college tuition, (there was a hint that the Mother would have spend that money too.) the fact that he thought about it reflects that he cares at least a bit and feels some kind of remorse.
for what or many reasons he didn't take an active role in her education and don't tried relentlessly to get in contact with her
we don't know, nor the whole story in deep here, most likely the Mother cut of the contact between him and Scarlett.
To be a "present father" (like me) implies to be on good terms with the mother, and be actively involved in the life of the child,
giving both emotional and finacial suport, love and protection.
that makes him not an total Asshole but also not a good father.

It is possible that Mrs. Russell cut off the connection between Edmond and Scarlett. But it could also be that Emond didn't want to openly accept Scarlett because she was an illegitimate daughter. Forgive me, there is always a distrust of Emond. What I can do is let MC try his best to be more responsible in giving birth to children.

 

[S1nsational]

Maybe she would have had a better life if she had chosen to return to her parents' home. But she was blinded by hatred. Generally speaking, disabled people are more likely to go to extremes and cannot be judged as ordinary people. Maybe my compassion was too overwhelming, but I felt that helping her might save her.

Saying disabled people cannot be judged as ordinary people is incredibly ablest. Certainly in the case of people with no intellectual disabilities.

You, effectively, just said that people who need glasses can't be judged as ordinary people. Do you see has asinine that is?

She doesn't deserve to be saved. Saving is for people who are victims. I would move mountains were it within my power to help people who steal to feed and shelter their family, I would not lift a finger to help anyone who takes their life out on their family, be it their children or partner, but especially their children.

Save your great compassion for those who actually deserve it. Like the family of an abusive drunk.

 

[DA22]

I don't quite agree with you. It was her fault that she did that to her daughter. Perhaps this is how she transferred her hatred for Edmund to his daughter. But this cannot deny that she is a tragic figure, because she lost the opportunity to study after giving birth to a daughter, went to a bar to make a hard living, and refused to accept returning to the family, which was stubbornness and punishment for herself. The cause of everything is Emond, so I sympathize with her plight and even want MC to save her instead of despising her to make up for his father's sins.

You make the natural mistake of defending someone because she is female and has a problem. Now yeah her parents reaction was harsh and fact edmund might not have left his family rotten for her after she got pregnant. Well it would have been same for martha and in a way already was since edmund did take care of two families. As someone above said, that for sure does not make him a saint, he could have done way worse though. The way she acted and reacted to that situation was her own choice though, where we also do not know how aware she was of edmund's situation before got pregnant and cheated with him knowing he had a family or not. Last time I I looked it takes two to tango and not one person.

The way she treated her daughter though and blamed her for her own mistakes and also did not accepted help from her parents when they changed their mind even for sake of her daughter, even if would have been in her right to stay pissed off with them says probably more about her though. Not talking about fact that from that little talk between Scarlett and her one got the strong feeling it was her that made sure she never saw her father and was not Edmunds demand. The guy got very drunk and admitted things to his son he did not want to and also shows he was very much aware of her progress at least in general. Nope even if what happened to her might have been shitty one does not get the idea that that princess was a great girl already when she was way younger, let alone now.

Or said differently in TLDR shitty things can also happen to shitty people, having something shitty happen to you does not make you a good person or victim per se.

 

[Deleted member 2572880]

You want to fuck her, (which is totally ok, I find her hot too, and so did Edmond a long time ago)
I disagree with you on one point, She had it hard and ugly in the past, all her grudge is understandable to certain extent.
But she didn't asume the part of responsability she had in all that (she let Edmond fuck her) and it is easier to blame all on somebody else than asume your part and move on.
As well she plays the victim card and takes advantage from it, a quite Narcisistic behavior if you ask me.

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No, MC already has too many women. Helping her let go of her resentment can't be accomplished by fucking her. She is indeed sick now, but this is not the reason why she should be cast aside.

 

[FatGiant]

I'm not going to quote all you've said about Scarlett's mom. I feel that most of you caught a good part of it.

Well done Xapican, that is exactly what I was waiting for you guys to get to.

She has a Narcissistic personality. All that she cares about is herself. Even the fucking rapist boyfriend, she doesn't really care much about while he satisfies her. He can lie, rape hurt whoever he wants, as long as she gets satisfaction from him. Scarlett, only mattered as a means to extort money from Edmund. She never worked, she made him sustain her and Scarlett, I imagine the blackmail he was under. Not that he didn't deserve it.

I may be a bit too close to the subject, my first wife managed to block me from my eldest daughter life, to the point that we are now complete strangers and my daughter has nothing but hate for me and her (half)siblings. So, maybe by opinions are tarnished and shouldn't count here.

TBH, she doesn't deserve even a hate fuck. I hope her rapist boyfriend provides her with has much hurt and pain as she deserves for what she inflicted on Scarlett for 18 years. Fuck her? No. HELL NO. I'm way more inclined to some more drastic means, that would get me banned if I say them.

Someone mentioned she being deaf as an excuse for her behavior. Sorry, no. She was already deaf when she started an ilicit relationship with Edmund that was already married and had 2 kids. Yet, being a narcissist she cared only for her own pleasure and went with it, her parents probably saw it has an opportunity to get rid of her.

Now, it's the MC's turn to give our dear Scarlett what she had only received from Daphne. Love and care. I hope he spoils her rotten. She'll need it. But her learned behaviors that she inherited from her mother will be with her for all her life.

Peace

 

[Deleted member 2572880]

well thats up to you, but way you are saying, screw your pregnant gf
View attachment 3092036 she can rot
lets pity her mom who got all looks of a gold digger, specially when she doesnt want anything to do with her D, probably regret having her. well any potential pity from my part is long gone by now

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she can rot pass this point as far as i am concerned. she would have to beg forgiveness on her knees to even think about her.
and for finish, if you cant get pass one point of your life in 20y, please look for professional help. shes pass that point tho.

After knowing that Scarlett is MC's half-sister, I don't enter her path when I replay.
Mrs. Russell's current behavior is indeed sick. Maybe you think it's best to let her rot, but maybe MC can save her, and I'd rather see a happy ending.

 

[xapican]

No, MC already has too many women. Helping her let go of her resentment can't be accomplished by fucking her. She is indeed sick now, but this is not the reason why she should be cast aside.

Ok, you want to help her, this is a very good intention, Considerd that MC already helped her, taking Scarlett with him, and starting to expose the Shitbag of partner she has, She is now on her own and can make the living what she pleases, she is not longer responsible for her daughter, and probably will get rid of the other leecher.
We shall see, but the reality is that the only person who can help her is herself, with therapy, she has a good portion of NPD (Narcisistic Personal Disorder) traits in her personality.

 

[e6mill]

Ok, you want to help her, this is a very good intention, Considerd that MC already helped her, taking Scarlett with him, and starting to expose the Shitbag of partner she has, She is now on her own and can make the living what she pleases, she is not longer responsible for her daughter, and probably will get rid of the other leecher.
We shall see, but the reality is that the only person who can help her is herself, with therapy, she has a good portion of NPD (Narcisistic Personal Disorder) traits in her personality.

Soon as she comes back from getting her gramps situated that thumb drive with the video should find its way to officer Alexia. It won't matter a damn what Scarlett's mom wants at that point.

 

[Deleted member 2572880]

Ok, you want to help her, this is a very good intention, Considerd that MC already helped her, taking Scarlett with him, and starting to expose the Shitbag of partner she has, She is now on her own and can make the living what she pleases, she is not longer responsible for her daughter, and probably will get rid of the other leecher.
We shall see, but the reality is that the only person who can help her is herself, with therapy, she has a good portion of NPD (Narcisistic Personal Disorder) traits in her personality.

At present, it seems that this can probably be done. Let's see if there will be more relevant information in subsequent updates.

 

[micmitja]

After knowing that Scarlett is MC's half-sister, I don't enter her path when I replay.
Mrs. Russell's current behavior is indeed sick. Maybe you think it's best to let her rot, but maybe MC can save her, and I'd rather see a happy ending.

well in the end we all will have to see what will come out of it, so far only dev knows. for me as i said she have to show some regret and ask for forgiveness, till that happens am happy with rest of them. almost more in ? if would let her ever see her grandchild or not. we will see.
also all depend on when that will be implemented, if it will be like in half a year when ill forget half of it and will come with choice, wana fuck, well ill fuck

 

[xapican]

Soon as she comes back from getting her gramps situated that thumb drive with the video should find its way to officer Alexia. It won't matter a damn what Scarlett's mom wants at that point.

Oh bet on it, Kiara knows the story, so soon all girls will know, and Alexia and Eileen are very close

 

[TigerWolfe]

I never knew just how popular tablets were before becoming active on here, like a not insignificant number of people play on android, and that has to be for tablets. I refuse to believe there are people playing VNs on their actual phones.

I'll stick to using my laptop, as the gods of porn intended

I'm on my phone, but it's a folder as was my last one. 3rd phone as far as the os is concerned, but really just 2nd physical phone had to do an unplanned emergency factory reset like 2 weeks ago, so lost all me saves.

 

[S1nsational]

I'm on my phone, but it's a folder as was my last one. 3rd phone as far as the os is concerned, but really just 2nd physical phone had to do an unplanned emergency factory reset like 2 weeks ago, so lost all me saves.

That's terrible to hear, thank you for sharing. Hope you get better (taste in devices) soon

 

[DerpyDeeDoo]

Soon as she comes back from getting her gramps situated that thumb drive with the video should find its way to officer Alexia. It won't matter a damn what Scarlett's mom wants at that point.

That's what I was thinking. Not only would douchebag go to jail or prison for attempted rape or felony assault (promising to rape someone in a vulnerable state arguably meets the criteria of both crimes), it would guarantee that no jury would ever convict the MC of assaulting him because he was trying to defend her from imminent rape. I figured the MC would have goaded him to call the police and report it, given the dirt they had on him. And the police aren't deaf and won't buy his lies.

 

[Sorreah]

btw, kind of a bug? or less of a bug and more like a continuity error. Since Emma was being so hostile, I just been kind of ignoring her, I didn't listen to the conversation in room, and I didn't push for anything at dinner (I'm literally trying to give her space like she wanted)

but the game keeps treating it like I had some heart to heart talk with her and she's mellowing out, but needs a little more time. I have done nothing with her and there is no reason for the sudden decrease in hostility unless the girls did stuff I am unaware of...but that's just it. I'm unaware of it. So this whole part is weird to me