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shamtiiomi

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I'm confused, if the idea wasn't to make NTR, why render and even animate the scene while the MC stands still watching them fuck?
is incidental and part of the why mc is going along with the plot.....i know for some ppl this is pretty dramatic but man,....i always prefer see with my own eyes than read it about it,...this give me a final closure....
 

Edhinor

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is incidental and part of the why mc is going along with the plot.....i know for some ppl this is pretty dramatic but man,....i always prefer see with my own eyes than read it about it,...this give me a final closure....
I have to agree, I do not get why some people get so hanged up on the whole NTR thing... that scene wasn't even NTR, it was cheating, yes, but not NTR. As far as I understand it, for NTR to exist, there has to be a component of humiliation that the character actively seeks, like he hates it but can't do anything about it and can't stop seeing it.

Here, the MC saw what his GF and father were doing, didn't stop to revel on it, didn't behave like a cuck, he immediately cut both of them out of his life and moved on.

I also prefer to be shown than told, after all, this is a VISUAL Novel. And this is a very important background point of why the MC moves, why he cuts his father off his life... etc.

Now, if the GF was to ever return and we were not even given a choice to take her back or not... then yeah, I would understand being upset. But as far as I have understood, the GF will never come back (and, if she ever does, I hope we have the option to tell her to GTFO).
 

Adhdclassic

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I have to agree, I do not get why some people get so hanged up on the whole NTR thing... that scene wasn't even NTR, it was cheating, yes, but not NTR. As far as I understand it, for NTR to exist, there has to be a component of humiliation that the character actively seeks, like he hates it but can't do anything about it and can't stop seeing it.

Here, the MC saw what his GF and father were doing, didn't stop to revel on it, didn't behave like a cuck, he immediately cut both of them out of his life and moved on.

I also prefer to be shown than told, after all, this is a VISUAL Novel. And this is a very important background point of why the MC moves, why he cuts his father off his life... etc.

Now, if the GF was to ever return and we were not even given a choice to take her back or not... then yeah, I would understand being upset. But as far as I have understood, the GF will never come back (and, if she ever does, I hope we have the option to tell her to GTFO).
GF/Dad try to come back in his life Edith and her 2sexpots going to destroy them.
 
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SlapE

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Unless Blackthunder changes his mind, he's already said the father won't be appearing in the story again, he might be referenced/mentioned at times, but won't be involved in the story or appear on screen.

The Ex-Gf will though, and I'm hoping it will be glorious when it happens. Hopefully we get to see her drowning in despair.
 

grim019

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is incidental and part of the why mc is going along with the plot.....i know for some ppl this is pretty dramatic but man,....i always prefer see with my own eyes than read it about it,...this give me a final closure....
If it is so incidental than giving a choice to show it or not would have changed nothing.
 
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shamtiiomi

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If it is so incidental than giving a choice a choice to show it or not would have changed nothing.
what for ? isnt ntr is straight up cheating,.....and you will not have any kind of relationship with any of both in the future ,only maybe to destroy some relationship.....if is so important to you or strees you out ,...maybe this is not the kind of game for you....whats happend here isnt so biggie,....you can chek another game with similars problems and chek yourself ,what kind of reaction comes from you,...[consort,making memories]those 2 have pretty much the same and they are completely different on terms of how you can react or not to....
 

Blackthunder_vn

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The scene is important for the story, for players who likes story and story building.

That "5 simple clicks" is thought for player who dont like to read and understand the story, it was a hint how fast they can get over it.

Like it or don't like it it's your choice. Play it and enjoy a I think good game or search for another.

This scene will not get changed, it's part of the games story.
 

Groundwire

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The scene is important for the story, for players who likes story and story building.

That "5 simple clicks" is thought for player who dont like to read and understand the story, it was a hint how fast they can get over it.

Like it or don't like it it's your choice. Play it and enjoy a I think good game or search for another.

This scene will not get changed, it's part of the games story.
I did not say change the scene. Just wanted to point you are contradicting yourself in relation to the scene.
 

LWtbo

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So the scene is important.

So the scene is not important.
So it seems the scene is important and not important. Feels a little contradictory.
Had he just lost his job.
Then the MC could he be drinking his sorrows away sure but then he would be just as likely to be drinking at home.
And in a normal world hopefully with his father and girlfriend to help commiserate with him.
So the scene is important to the story it adds context as to why the MC leaves home and why he's drinking in that hotel.
Which is how and why he meets Riley London and Edith when they walk in complaining amongst themselves.
About her cheating Ex-Husbands latest trick.

Did it need to be shown yes and then again no it certainly added impact.
But MC could of just explained it while lementing to the bar-woman instead.
However even if you didn't like it them Five simple clicks and you allready knew exactly why he's there at that hotel .
He's getting drunk with his sorrows and also why he is willing to consider helping edith with her revenge plot.

Some will allways say its not needed and some will say it is (I'm ok with it) but I would say if this was a film.
These a very very good chance thats one of the early scnene's init.

Just Sayin.
 
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Groundwire

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Did it need to be shown yes and then again no it certainly added impact.
But MC could of just explained it while lementing to the bar-woman instead.
I don't think the scene added impact the way the dev wanted. That would have been a better way to do the scene imo. It has the same effect as showing the scene for the story while being less divisive.
 

LWtbo

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I don't think the scene added impact the way the dev wanted. That would have been a better way to do the scene imo. It has the same effect as showing the scene for the story while being less divisive.
Personally I have to disagree with you but thats my opinion.
I do think it added less impact myself as well but for a diffrent reason..
To me the only thing is in my opinion is its maybe 2 to 3 clicks tolong.
He would of been better to condenced the MC's thoughts into maybe two or at a push three clicks worth.
Because at the five clicks it takes now (as some have kind of mentioned).
It's almost like it's verging on the edge of voyeurism.
Than actual SHOCK and AWE but again thats my opinion only.
 
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YogSothoth1982

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She will eventually return on screen, but without a choice or anything.

Mc will get his revenge and then she can straight go to hell.
I'm probably weird, but I prefer to skip the revenge and focus on the romance. If the ex-girlfriend reappears in the game, the only interaction I expect the MC to have with her is to tell her to leave and not come back, and then she disappears from the game forever.

The scene is important for the story, for players who likes story and story building.

That "5 simple clicks" is thought for player who dont like to read and understand the story, it was a hint how fast they can get over it.

Like it or don't like it it's your choice. Play it and enjoy a I think good game or search for another.

This scene will not get changed, it's part of the games story.
I used CTRL the moment I assumed the scene was happening, and then I had to use History to read everything I had skipped that happened after the scene.
 

SlapE

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I'm probably weird, but I prefer to skip the revenge and focus on the romance. If the ex-girlfriend reappears in the game, the only interaction I expect the MC to have with her is to tell her to leave and not come back, and then she disappears from the game forever.
Yeah? Well, a lot of us don't prefer that. I don't agree with revenge cheating (which this isn't), but revenge in general to teach someone some humility and compassion is exactly what is needed in this case. It sounds like it will be a small section of the game, it doesn't really take away from the story or the romance.
 

YogSothoth1982

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Yeah? Well, a lot of us don't prefer that. I don't agree with revenge cheating (which this isn't), but revenge in general to teach someone some humility and compassion is exactly what is needed in this case. It sounds like it will be a small section of the game, it doesn't really take away from the story or the romance.
I don't really have proof of this, but I suspect that most people will want revenge.
 

kwazi

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Not trying to step on toes, but since COVID happened simple things like cheating. Have become sensationalized now it's NTR or cuckold. Why can't cheating just be cheating. Making things so difficult.
cuz people love making things difficult
 
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