VN Ren'Py My Husband's Boss [Ch.2] [SC Stories]

[TheDuke9999]

True that ... But again I think there is something we do not know about Hutch... Also, Maybe Vivian's sex indecretions has been going on for awhile now with others...maybe at school ! Maybe that is why Hutch was adimat that she not go meet him. He knew SE would be the weak one. I think he finally open the marriage so she would be free to have her way with no guilt.

in the shower says somethings to the effect of throwing away 22 years of marriage and what she did. that would mean to me she never cheated before. just guessing though. hutch believes he is doing whats best for his family only prolonging the pain of knowing his wife is falling in love with another man. it is hutch's way of keeping his wife a little longer before she leaves him. she only let hutch have any say in there marriage when he agreed to let her bang other men. she knew what she was she doing and suceeded. does she feel horrible about destroying her husband ? absolutely.. does she care ? YES .. will she stop cheating? No.. she now has what she wanted.. freedom to do as she pleases and a husband that will pay dearly for it

 

[DarkArchon]

well if your correct in your statement then vivian truly is the dumbest woman ever born into this earth. lets see here, 5 minutes she allows the boss bend her over knowing at any time the husband could walk out or see her getting banged but she has no self control and does it. then after dinner says hey im a big girl im going to sleep in the same bed as your boss but dont worry we are just going to sleep . through the night she and the boss are moaning an screaming loud enough for the naighbors to hear and she still thinks hutch has no idea whats going on and sleeping lol. then leaves room with boss and bangs in kitchen still thinking hutch is sleeping as she moans again loudly. then goes back in bedroom and continues until morning still believing hutch is still asleep while she continues to moan an scream in pleasure . even after the boss tells her if she was his woman there is no way he would let into another room all night alone mocking her. not at any time did she think this situation is humiliating as hell to her husband ? not any any time did she care? did you watch the scenes because she really seem to enjoy herself . she knew it was humiliating and she got off on it.. now did she feel guilty and remorse for humiliating her husband .. sure she did. did she stop .. NO. did she go back for more at his workplace YES . does she feel bad for humiliating hutch .SURE . does she stop humiliating hutch NO .. DROPS THE MIC.

Vivian enjoying Christian fucking her is not evidence that she enjoys humiliating Hutch. As I wrote previously, Christian has power over her, including sexual power over her. She is submitting to Christian because he is able to dominate her through manipulation and through sex. As far as Vivian being dumb, that is correct, but far more than just being dumb, she deludes herself. Just because someone does something completely illogical does not mean that their behavior is unbelievable. It is illogical, for example, for a woman whose husband beats her for decades, to believe he is going to change and stop beating her, but there are MILLIONS of women who think that. A delusion is when you believe something that is irrational. It usually happens when a person wants to believe something badly enough, like the example of the battered wife who tells herself her husband is going to change. Vivian was deluding herself when she told herself that Hutch might not know what she did. Christian was completely aware of this. That is one reason he made the comment about what he would do to a man who said he was going to sleep in the same bedroom as his wife. He was making a comment about how weak Hutch was, but he was also pointing out that Hutch had to know what was going to happen. In other words he was telling Vivian she was being irrational, but he did not care because he knew Vivian was wrapped around his finger. Christian is enjoying humiliating Hutch, but Vivian, at this point, is not. You have provided no evidence that she is enjoying Hutch's humiliation. Saying she enjoys the humiliation is not evidence she enjoys the humiliation. Saying she keeps doing it is not evidence she is enjoying it because she is being manipulated into doing it. There is no evidence from the dialogue, the body language, or facial expressions of Vivian that she is enjoying Hutch's humiliation. You simply want to believe that. You may get your wish in the future, but that is not the case right now.

 

[packard1928]

True that.. But I think Vivian truly dispises Christian... However she is in love with the way he fucks her... She can't deny that...as mush as she curses him while he is doing it !

 

[Adhdclassic]

Vivian is humiliated Hutch. Intentionally or unintentionally, she is humiliating Hutch. Just using the house sexfest she fucked his boss in the open in the backyard. The risk was high lights on everywhere gone for a length of time and you and your husband are aware of who his boss is. You had loud sex 20 feet away from 2 twice in the bedroom, you walked past him buttnaked and fucked in the kitchen in the open again. All of that is humiliation as well as saying he is stupid. All of that is clear humiliation. I know some people believe humiliation is verbal and can say she didn't verbally humiliate him for the house yes, she did not verbally humiliate him she emotionally humiliated him. Now the bathroom scene she verbally humiliated him, even though she didn't know he was in there she still verbally humiliated him especially talking about his sexually self. Her playful banter with Christian is also a form of humiliation. So don't let it fool you she humiliated him. But hey this is just my perception of what I saw.

 

[TheDuke9999]

Vivian enjoying Christian fucking her is not evidence that she enjoys humiliating Hutch. As I wrote previously, Christian has power over her, including sexual power over her. She is submitting to Christian because he is able to dominate her through manipulation and through sex. As far as Vivian being dumb, that is correct, but far more than just being dumb, she deludes herself. Just because someone does something completely illogical does not mean that their behavior is unbelievable. It is illogical, for example, for a woman whose husband beats her for decades, to believe he is going to change and stop beating her, but there are MILLIONS of women who think that. A delusion is when you believe something that is irrational. It usually happens when a person wants to believe something badly enough, like the example of the battered wife who tells herself her husband is going to change. Vivian was deluding herself when she told herself that Hutch might not know what she did. Christian was completely aware of this. That is one reason he made the comment about what he would do to a man who said he was going to sleep in the same bedroom as his wife. He was making a comment about how weak Hutch was, but he was also pointing out that Hutch had to know what was going to happen. In other words he was telling Vivian she was being irrational, but he did not care because he knew Vivian was wrapped around his finger. Christian is enjoying humiliating Hutch, but Vivian, at this point, is not. You have provided no evidence that she is enjoying Hutch's humiliation. Saying she enjoys the humiliation is not evidence she enjoys the humiliation. Saying she keeps doing it is not evidence she is enjoying it because she is being manipulated into doing it. There is no evidence from the dialogue, the body language, or facial expressions of Vivian that she is enjoying Hutch's humiliation. You simply want to believe that. You may get your wish in the future, but that is not the case right now.

do you think vivian is smart enough to know the boss is humiliating her husband and enjoying every second of it by banging her with hutch right there in the same home? if your answer is yes then she is enjoying it also. she may deny in what she says but not by how she feels by allowing the boss to bang her all night long with hubby there knowing it will to destroy hutch.

 

[packard1928]

Remember Christian said.... I am going to steal your wife..... Yes he is doing everything to hutch on purpose...

 

[TheDuke9999]

i will say this could be one of the best NTR VN's out there at there moment .

 

[DarkArchon]

do you think vivian is smart enough to know the boss is humiliating her husband and enjoying every second of it by banging her with hutch right there in the same home? if your answer is yes then she is enjoying it also. she may deny in what she says but not by how she feels by allowing the boss to bang her all night long with hubby there knowing it will to destroy hutch.

The problem with your reasoning is that you believe that if a person repeats an action that means that they enjoy all of the consequences of their actions. For example, just because a person keeps getting drunk, that does not mean they enjoy getting hangovers. They might might enjoy drinking alcohol, or enjoy getting drunk, but they probably don't enjoy getting hangovers. It would be the same for them getting arrested for public drunkenness, or drunk driving, or something else. Vivian enjoys the sex with Christian, but at this point, she does not enjoy Hutch's humiliation. Christian is humiliating VIVIAN by getting her to betray Hutch. That is ONE of the ways he is humiliating her. It is not the only way he is doing it. He is also, of course, humiliating Hutch.

 

[Hattyrulz]

i will say this could be one of the best NTR VN's out there at there moment .

dont want to jinx it but i will agree for now but there are many good vns that have not been finished ntr or other genre... which many have forgotten or stuck in endless development. fingers crossed this will vn will still be good when we get the final update(irrespective of the ending the dev has planned for us)

Christian is humiliating VIVIAN by getting her to betray Hutch. That is ONE of the ways he is humiliating her. It is not the only way he is doing it. He is also, of course, humiliating Hutch.

very well worded. we are all interpretting this update with the facts the vn has give us so far. they may change but one thing is consistent is this story... thats is the forshadowing. the dev/author clearly says whats going to happen in one form or another and it happens... so far its all pointing towards vivian being the bad flawed individual and hutch being weak/fragile husband. but there are aspect or renders or dialogues in the story that have other version of them shown even if they are only a single frame. if the author continues this trend of forcasting what is going to happen then we might see a big change in the direction the story is going at the end of the 3rd update, where we will know both vivian and hutch's reasoning/thoughts.

 

[TheDuke9999]

The problem with your reasoning is that you believe that if a person repeats an action that means that they enjoy all of the consequences of their actions. For example, just because a person keeps getting drunk, that does not mean they enjoy getting hangovers. They might might enjoy drinking alcohol, or enjoy getting drunk, but they probably don't enjoy getting hangovers. It would be the same for them getting arrested for public drunkenness, or drunk driving, or something else. Vivian enjoys the sex with Christian, but at this point, she does not enjoy Hutch's humiliation. Christian is humiliating VIVIAN by getting her to betray Hutch. That is ONE of the ways he is humiliating her. It is not the only way he is doing it. He is also, of course, humiliating Hutch.

and she is allowing it by not stopping and doing it with hutch there. they could easily meet at a hotel room and do whatever they want. why is it always with hutch right there or hutch is in the home or building. why does the wife keep putting herself in that position knowing full well the boss is going to try to fuck her with hutch there. if it isnt humiliation then she must truly hate hutch because that is the worst thing you can do to a spouse. and thats why we love her.

 

[DarkArchon]

and she is allowing it by not stopping and doing it with hutch there. they could easily meet at a hotel room and do whatever they want. why is it always with hutch right there or hutch is in the home or building. why does the wife keep putting herself in that position knowing full well the boss is going to try to fuck her with hutch there. if it isnt humiliation then she must truly hate hutch because that is the worst thing you can do to a spouse. and thats why we love her.

I did not write that it was not humiliation. I wrote that Christian is humiliating both Vivian and Hutch. I also wrote that Christian has power over Vivian. That is how he gets her to humiliate Hutch. Tormenting Vivian by getting her to humiliate Hutch is part of Christian's game. He enjoys the power he has over her. He enjoys manipulating her, and he enjoys his sexual power over her. He knows she is too weak and foolish to resist.

 

[Hattyrulz]

we love her.

definitely a big NO. the character model yes . the vivian character in the vn

 

[Adhdclassic]

The one thing that needs to be remembered Vivian always had a choice. Manipulation or not she had a choice she could have talked to Hutch at anytime and let him be in on the decision she didn't. When they got in that backyard regardless of the conversation or how it happened she had a choice if he tried to force she could have screamed or fight back she did neither she chose for it to happen. She had many moments before and after to stop it or deal with it she chose not to talk to the man she swore to be with. Vivian proved 1 crucial thing about Hutch she had no respect for him before this incident.

 

[DarkArchon]

The one thing that needs to be remembered Vivian always had a choice. Manipulation or not she had a choice she could have talked to Hutch at anytime and let him be in on the decision she didn't. When they got in that backyard regardless of the conversation or how it happened she had a choice if he tried to force she could have screamed or fight back she did neither she chose for it to happen. She had many moments before and after to stop it or deal with it she chose not to talk to the man she swore to be with. Vivian proved 1 crucial thing about Hutch she had no respect for him before this incident.

I agree. Christian's manipulations don't get her off the hook. I will point out that Christian made it clear he doesn't play this game with everyone. He knows better. There are husbands that would have knocked him down, or worse, long before he got his hands on Vivian. There are wives that would have kicked him in his balls as soon as they thought he was suggesting they have sex with him so their husband could keep his job.

 

[X|Mortis]

Christian made it clear he doesn't play this game with everyone. He knows better

Yeah, I definitely agree with this point. Christian knows not to bite off more than he can chew and picks his targets carefully.

He is actually quite strategic about what women he deems ripe for the picking based on his assessment of their character. I.e., he wouldn't just try and manipulate any wife out there, but has a good read on the situation of who to corrupt, and who to back off from, based on his judgement.

 

[Adhdclassic]

I agree. Christian's manipulations don't get her off the hook. I will point out that Christian made it clear he doesn't play this game with everyone. He knows better. There are husbands that would have knocked him down, or worse, long before he got his hands on Vivian. There are wives that would have kicked him in his balls as soon as they thought he was suggesting they have sex with him so their husband could keep his job.

she could have nipped it in the bud. You see all the alternatives she gave Hutch in the end, it shows she could have gave those same alternatives in the beginning. Doesn't matter how much power a player has she had a choice. Here is another choice the choice that started it all the choice that should have never happened. She went to her grown ass husbands job in the same manner you would go to your Childs principal. Yes, Christian is the villain but Vivian is just a much a villain if not more. She was the one who made the vow to Hutch Christian didn't.

 

[Pr0GamerJohnny]

Yeah, I definitely agree with this point. Christian knows not to bite off more than he can chew and picks his targets carefully.

He is actually quite strategic about what women he deems ripe for the picking based on his assessment of their character. I.e., he wouldn't just try and manipulate any wife out there, but has a good read on the situation of who to corrupt, and who to back off from, based on his judgement.

There hasn't been any evidence in the story so far - this sounds like rose-tinted glasses for characters otherwise having plot armor.

I DO think it would add to the story if Christian were depicted in some manner overstepping, or choosing the wrong mark.

Problem is a majority of the fans, despite drooling all over the concept of 'realism' probably don't want that, as a fallible antagonist is more believable yet less threatening. That sounds thorny because I see this as a superhero movie for avn ntr fans, yet people are spending paragraphs and paragraphs analyzing the characters powers, as if they play by any set of rules.

I do enjoy the occassional superhero movie, just not the claptrap.

 

[X|Mortis]

Vivian proved 1 crucial thing about Hutch she had no respect for him before this incident

Vivian always did have a choice of course. I feel that she is a lot more wishy-washy and submissive in her mannerisms around Christian, because she knows that even if Hutch were to find out, she wouldn't really face any real/severe repercussions due to Hutch's cuckish attitude towards the whole dynamic going on between Vivian/Christian.

Now, (hypothetically speaking) imagine if Hutch was both a physically/emotionally abusive husband. Would Vivian feel more apprehensiveness if she were to blatantly cheat on Hutch behind his back? Chances are, quite likely because she is afraid of being reprimanded harshly if Hutch was to discover her infidelity.

However, since Hutch's personality is not at all in the manner described, she doesn't seem to have that fear of reprisal brewing in her. Hence, why she may feel sorry for outward appearances alone, deep down I feel that Vivian is not as regretful as she is made to appear in the game during certain scenes.

 

[X|Mortis]

would add to the story if Christian were depicted in some manner overstepping, or choosing the wrong mark

Yeah, I see what you mean. In some respects, if we see characters in AVNs (especially the antagonists in NTR AVNs) express any form of weakness and/or vulnerability in their actions, it would make for a more believable (albeit) unimaginative characterization for some players.

Showing believability in character interactions is important when the situation/scenario calls for it and could potentially add more realism to an extent. Albeit, the vast majority of why some people play AVNs like MHB, is for that underlying escapism factor to immerse themselves in taboo storylines to escape the mundanity of real life and engage in the excitability that triggers them to play through increasingly debauched scenarios between fictional characters in a fictional setting.

To be fair, though, the overarching narrative in MHB is still in the early stages, so it could very well be that we will see the vulnerable side of Christian in future updates, if he ends up overstepping Vivian's boundaries - so I would not entirely rule out that possible scenario from panning out if anything.

 

[DarkArchon]

she could have nipped it in the bud. You see all the alternatives she gave Hutch in the end, it shows she could have gave those same alternatives in the beginning. Doesn't matter how much power a player has she had a choice. Here is another choice the choice that started it all the choice that should have never happened. She went to her grown ass husbands job in the same manner you would go to your Childs principal. Yes, Christian is the villain but Vivian is just a much a villain if not more. She was the one who made the vow to Hutch Christian didn't.

I would not call her more of a villain. Christian has done this to a lot of people. I find her to be an unlikable person. Her controlling attitude is part of why I find her unlikable. She also overestimates her abilities and clearly betrayed Hutch. Much of my recent posts focused on the idea that she did not enjoy humiliating Hutch. Despite her many flaws, she isn't guilty of enjoying him being in pain. That being the case, all three main characters are messed up people, but that is where the drama comes from. I do find Allison likable so far. Hopefully it wasn't her in Christian's bed. If it was, my respect for her goes down some. Sawyer hasn't done anything to make himself unlikable to me, but there isn't much there yet. So far we know that he, naturally, does not like his friends coming on to his mother (who is married to his father).