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Hattyrulz

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No problem, there is still the sweet and tender Addison, she can be trusted, right Dev?...
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Right... Dev?... Dev?!...


PS: No problem, bring that pain! :BootyTime:
all have faith in team snarky secretary.

ps: just saw the dev's post above mine.... the light at the end of the tunnel is fading......:sick: goodbye team snarky secretary.
 
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DarkArchon

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The "subtext" in the conversations between Hutch and Christian is clearly the voice of mainstream society speaking. And because of that it is so convincing and successful with Hutch. It is not some sinister genius coming up with something original but the usual tropes in store for a betrayed husband ("man up" by swallowing it). The problem for Hutch (not being discussed enough sofar, but a lost the middle weeks of discussion here, so I'm not sure) is, that there is no accepted script for him (who is of course a weak character who would need such a script because he can't come up with one himself) anymore of how to act in this moment. Of course it is easy for us as someone said above to be sure to have landed in prison or hospital. I'm not so sure. First thing we are all totally conditioned to avoid even the slightest bit of bodily harm and violence at any cost. Males legitimately enraged because of betrayel, the righeous anger of a newly cucked - this is not a thing anymore in mainstream movies or novels let alone society (don't want to get into judicial matters). Point is: the framing Christian offers is the one that is seductively in tune with what is expected from a civilized loving tolerant husband and, what is more important, it offers the easy well adjusted way for Hutch in this context as disgusting as it does appear to us who are in the voyeur's seat. Hutch, reacting on his authentic impulse would have needed to exit not only marriage and job but also the hive mind of current society including that of his male colleagues who are sitting there like malicious idiots who belittle him but would have acted the same, they are just happy they weren't targeted this time.
I referred to Christian as a psychopath. I never referred to him as a sinister genius. I don't know where you are getting that from. Being good at manipulating CERTAIN kinds of people does not make you a genius. As far as Hutch's reaction is concerned, it is very atypical. Most men would be enraged, and at the very least would threaten Christian, although many would take it beyond threats. Also, main stream media has not abandoned the idea of a jealous husband reacting violently to the infidelity of his wife. I don't know where you are getting that either. Police dramas don't have investigations of husbands who have killed their wives and/or their wives' lovers anymore? Your take sounds very gen Z. When you are talking about society, you are obviously talking about Gen Z because that is not the attitude of most of society. No offense to Gen Z, but sometimes they think their take on situations is everyone's take on situations. and that is not the case.
 

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I referred to Christian as a psychopath. I never referred to him as a sinister genius. I don't know where you are getting that from. Being good at manipulating CERTAIN kinds of people does not make you a genius. As far as Hutch's reaction is concerned, it is very atypical. Most men would be enraged, and at the very least would threaten Christian, although many would take it beyond threats. Also, main stream media has not abandoned the idea of a jealous husband reacting violently to the infidelity of his wife. I don't know where you are getting that either. Police dramas don't have investigations of husbands who have killed their wives and/or their wives' lovers anymore? Your take sounds very gen Z. When you are talking about society, you are obviously talking about Gen Z because that is not the attitude of most of society. No offense to Gen Z, but sometimes they think their take on situations is everyone's take on situations. and that is not the case.
I hope dev has hutchy tied up while Christian throttles hutchy's wife in the booty right in front of him lol.. that would be epic.. I have a feeling hutchy will be wearing a cage by the end of next episode lol
 

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Read a few ending ideas so I thought I would have some fun and add my own ending to the story.

We know the endings going to be dark, right? Don't take it too seriously. Well here goes!

Rupert has shown a lot of interest towards Vivian so far but over the course of the story it turns into obsession. He catches Christian and Vivian talking and being a little handsy near the class. He follows them home and assumes Christian and Vivian are married.
He steals a gun from the mechanic and blows them both away while they sleep together. He flee's the scene just before Hutch who was nearby runs to the scene and finds the bodies.
Hutch gets charged with double homicide and the story could go two ways from here. Hutch goes to prison and kills himself or Hutch is cleared of all charges but loses his son and can't find good work due to the doubts caused by the charges.

This is about as dark an ending that comes to mind, but I predict it will be something more emotionally NTR focused.
 

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In real life, I would have gone to the restroom like the husband. Huh! I wouldn't have cared how much I had to fuck Christian, I would have punched him in the mouth afterwards. Or I would have yelled at them, don't fuck here, I want to fuck my fucking wife.
 

Hattyrulz

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This is about as dark an ending that comes to mind, but I predict it will be something more emotionally NTR focused.
yes there were some similar endings not with rupert. they were mostly revolving around the 3 main characters and sometimes addison. yes everyone is expecting a dark ending since the Dev said so ... but some of us are hoping for a best of the worst endings. and keep the creative imagination working.(y)
 

DarkArchon

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Read a few ending ideas so I thought I would have some fun and add my own ending to the story.

We know the endings going to be dark, right? Don't take it too seriously. Well here goes!

Rupert has shown a lot of interest towards Vivian so far but over the course of the story it turns into obsession. He catches Christian and Vivian talking and being a little handsy near the class. He follows them home and assumes Christian and Vivian are married.
He steals a gun from the mechanic and blows them both away while they sleep together. He flee's the scene just before Hutch who was nearby runs to the scene and finds the bodies.
Hutch gets charged with double homicide and the story could go two ways from here. Hutch goes to prison and kills himself or Hutch is cleared of all charges but loses his son and can't find good work due to the doubts caused by the charges.

This is about as dark an ending that comes to mind, but I predict it will be something more emotionally NTR focused.
No offense, but not enough sex in your version.
 
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I referred to Christian as a psychopath. I never referred to him as a sinister genius. I don't know where you are getting that from. Being good at manipulating CERTAIN kinds of people does not make you a genius. As far as Hutch's reaction is concerned, it is very atypical. Most men would be enraged, and at the very least would threaten Christian, although many would take it beyond threats. Also, main stream media has not abandoned the idea of a jealous husband reacting violently to the infidelity of his wife. I don't know where you are getting that either. Police dramas don't have investigations of husbands who have killed their wives and/or their wives' lovers anymore? Your take sounds very gen Z. When you are talking about society, you are obviously talking about Gen Z because that is not the attitude of most of society. No offense to Gen Z, but sometimes they think their take on situations is everyone's take on situations. and that is not the case.
While I took your quote as opportunity for my post, it does in no way argue against you. Not everything here is a battle. And for somebody who seems to be sensitive to assumptions you make yourself a lot of them. I'm Gen X. And you didn't get my point concerning mainstream media: they consistently (and I'm refering to western societies) portrait such actions as illegitimate and inappropriate. In police dramas this is the villain. It is condemned and ridiculed. It is no role model. It is not dealt with as understandable and tolerable. This is the type of masculinity current societies have decided long ago to move away from. I'm just stating facts here, not approving them. How could you not get this? And this trend is of course much older than Gen Z. I don't want to get in the whole Dom. Viol. topic and I think we don't need to. This started in the 70ies.
Concerning "most men": enraged of course, but acting on it - that's exactly what I dared to doubt and you haven't changed my mind by just stating so. It's just grandstanding. Your wish is not reality. BTW don't you see that if you start with violence here it is not so sure it wouldn't hit the wife also? why only the Boss? Have you thought about that or doesn't that fit in your imagination of a knightly battle? Rage and shock doesn't translate into violence so easily, especially if you see that you lost your wife and marriage already on the spot. There is nothing left to fight for. The wife is the disappointment here, not the boss, and some people are intelligent enough to see this already in the situation. And feel helpless against that fact. They can't force her back.
 
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yes there were some similar endings not with rupert. they were mostly revolving around the 3 main characters and sometimes addison. yes everyone is expecting a dark ending since the Dev said so ... but some of us are hoping for a best of the worst endings. and keep the creative imagination working.(y)
You went from a porn game to a Turkish novel ending man lol
 
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Hattyrulz

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You went from a porn game to a Turkish novel ending man lol
never read a turkish novel so can't comment on that.... but in regards to my quote.... i prefer happy ending.... and usually ntr games dont have the same impact as this kn has on reader... just stating one of the reason... usually ntr ending are bad, so best of the bad ending... where there is normal or not the worst ending for the mc they support. the dev did say the novel gets darker... and some might like the darkest of dark ending... that's not for me.
 

Hattyrulz

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BTW don't you see that if you start with violence here it is not so sure it wouldn't hit the wife also? why only the Boss? Have you thought about that or doesn't that fit in your imagination of a knightly battle? Rage and shock doesn't translate into violence so easily, especially if you see that you lost your wife and marriage already on the spot. There is nothing left to fight for. The wife is the disappointment here, not the boss, and some people are intelligent enough to see this already in the situation. And feel helpless against that fact. They can't force her back.
just to make things clear.... I'm not siding with you or DA. the way DA(DarkArchon) presents his argument may be forceful but his view isn't so far off from my viewpoint which in turn isn't far from yours as you stated. the presentation may be a bit different. and your points take a while to understand... like the conversation we had...its best if both think it over instead.
coming to the quote above there will always be collateral damage in such cases... there is a post in this thread.... in the last 2 or 3 pages(i use 100 posts per page so may be more for you). and i think the vn dredged up memories and he was talking about it. I'm guessing here, i think most who have read that post or vocal in the thread know the consequences... rage does translate into violence not shock... shock is what keeps the violence in check. since SC Stories disbanded team snarky secretary. we are left with the usual suspects and i don't get your last statement. i know you are refering to vivian but force her back.... you mean to say not do it.... the ben dover for the the boss?
 

Hattyrulz

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I don't get what you don't get, to be honest. Do you want to force a woman by being violent to come back to you?
ok .... in this context you mean to say that if vivian want to have fun with christian she should do so and hutch shouldn't force her to stop it? am i understanding it right... you already made it clear that vivian's action were the flaw here and she lack the sense to make proper decision and the only solution is to do what.... make her chose by not forcing her? as i said before kinda hard to understand your thoughts.
 
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Dealbreaker

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ok .... in this context you mean to say that if vivian want to have fun with christian she should do so and hutch shouldn't force her to stop it? am i understanding it right... as i said before kinda hard to understand your thoughts.
What is so difficult? I say that you can't bring a woman by physical force, by bodily violence against her to come back to you and be faithful. This is not the way. If this is your last tool in the box you have lost her. 1. This doesn't work with the woman 2. You go instantly to prison.
Maybe we should talk about in which countries we live. I live in western Europe. I could imagine if you live in Turkey or Russia, there are different mentalities.
 

Hattyrulz

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What is so difficult? I say that you can't bring a woman by physical force, by bodily violence against her to come back to you and be faithful. This is not the way. If this is your last tool in the box you have lost her. 1. This doesn't work with the woman 2. You go instantly to prison.
Maybe we should talk about in which countries we live. I live in western Europe. I could imagine if you live in Turkey or Russia, there are different mentalities.
now i get it read DA's post again but i don't think he meant violence against the wife.... but rage towards the boss... i maybe wrong. and now i see the thoughts. even if DA said reacting to the infidelity of the wife with violence don't think he was speaking as if directing the violence towards christian .... but i'll take back whatever i said in my previous post if what DA mean was violence against the wife.
 
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While I took your quote as opportunity for my post, it does in no way argue against you. Not everything here is a battle. And for somebody who seems to be sensitive to assumptions you make yourself a lot of them. I'm Gen X. And you didn't get my point concerning mainstream media: they consistently (and I'm refering to western societies) portrait such actions as illegitimate and inappropriate. In police dramas this is the villain. It is condemned and ridiculed. It is no role model. It is not dealt with as understandable and tolerable. This is the type of masculinity current societies have decided long ago to move away from. I'm just stating facts here, not approving them. How could you not get this? And this trend is of course much older than Gen Z. I don't want to get in the whole Dom. Viol. topic and I think we don't need to. This started in the 70ies.
Concerning "most men": enraged of course, but acting on it - that's exactly what I dared to doubt and you haven't changed my mind by just stating so. It's just grandstanding. Your wish is not reality. BTW don't you see that if you start with violence here it is not so sure it wouldn't hit the wife also? why only the Boss? Have you thought about that or doesn't that fit in your imagination of a knightly battle? Rage and shock doesn't translate into violence so easily, especially if you see that you lost your wife and marriage already on the spot. There is nothing left to fight for. The wife is the disappointment here, not the boss, and some people are intelligent enough to see this already in the situation. And feel helpless against that fact. They can't force her back.
I wasn't saying that the violence could not spill over to the wife, or that the wife could not be the target of the violence. I actually wrote that in my post. "Police dramas don't have investigations of husbands who have killed their wives and/or their wives' lovers anymore?" That both parties in infidelity can be retaliated against for the infidelity is a given. I agree with you that characters that kill their unfaithful spouses and or their lovers are portrayed as the villains. That being written, men who become violent against men who are sleeping with their wives are not viewed as villains by our society, unless they go so far as to kill or maim the person. They might be looked at like they were not smart to become violent in light of the consequences, like being criminally charged, but they would not be looked at down upon from a moral point of view. Even the police arresting the person might not think the husband was wrong to get into fight with a person that was screwing his wife. He would still arrest the person. I have heard women say they think both parties in situations of infidelity are legitimately subject to violent retaliation, and they were including the wives. I am glad you clarified that you are Gen X, but I still think what you said is more Gen Z. I think there are those in the media that want to push what you are saying as far as wanting men to just suck it up and take it, but I don't think the majority of people think that way. This is despite the attempts of the media to shape people's thinking. By the way, I am in no way letting Vivian or Christian off the hook. All 3 characters are messed up. The smart move for Hutch would be to kick Vivian to the curb and get a new job. I agree with you that I don't think he has anything worth fighting for in Vivian or the job. But again, addressing the issue of violence. Fear of violent retaliation is one of the main reasons people keep their infidelities secret. Christian was behaving in a way that was particularly provocative. It was the kind of behavior that could easily push someone over the edge. Your points are taken that everything does not need to be a battle. Interestingly, this is the most I have ever posted on this forum. Usually I just read the posts and dismiss everything. I guess this game has really sucked me in. I am still loving the drama even though I think all 3 main characters are unlikable.

PS. I saw in one of your posts that you are based in Europe. People in the US tend to be more violent than other countries. There is a lot more violent crime in the US, and people in the US, at least in my estimation, are more prone to use violence than in most places in Europe. This could explain some of the differences in our perspectives.
 
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